Bills become first team since punting became a stat in 1939 to not punt in 3 out of rolling 4 game period in regular season

[Big Turk]

This is exceptionally impressive...

 

Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season.

 

I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss

Edited September 14, 2022 by Big Turk

[NickelCity]

True...but the last one having a variety of offensive turnovers dulls the shine of this trivia/stat. 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, NickelCity said:

True...but the last one having a variety of offensive turnovers dulls the shine of this trivia/stat. 

 

Consider that other teams turn the ball over and still punt. Almost unheard of to not punt in a game regardless.

 

Did it look like the Bills were going to have to punt if they didn't have the turnovers? Two of them happened well within FG range.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Big Turk

[NickelCity]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Consider that other teams turn the ball over and still punt. Almost unheard of to not punt in a game regardless.

 

Did it look like the Bills were going to have to punt if they didn't have the turnovers? Two of them happened well within FG range.

 

Can't disagree there. We were rolling. 

 

[eball]

...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs...

 

As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip.

 

[BuffaloBill]

There is no doubt that Josh Allen is absolutely in command of this offense and it shows though a stat like this.  It’s almost unreal.

[Klaus]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs...

 

As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip.

 

 

Wouldn't a turn over, regardless of who it is caused by, often be worse than a punt? 

 

Even with 4 turnovers, I think our offense has the belief that they can always get a 1st down  or a TD on any given play. Last year they punted 50 times, the Chiefs were lowest in the league at 38, I'm not a betting man but I'd take the under on the number of punts being under 38 for the year for our Bills.  

 

 

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Klaus said:

 

Wouldn't a turn over, regardless of who it is caused by, often be worse than a punt? 

 

Even with 4 turnovers, I think our offense has the belief that they can always get a 1st down  or a TD on any given play. Last year they punted 50 times, the Chiefs were lowest in the league at 38, I'm not a betting man but I'd take the under on the number of punts being under 38 for the year for our Bills.  

 

 

There are situations in which a turnover is NOT worse than a punt...say, if a QB throws a deep INT from midfield on 3rd and long and the opponent thus starts inside their 10 rather than the offense having to punt.  But those are rare.  Typically a turnover is worse than a punt.

 

Last Thursday the Bills' offense was rolling and it can be argued that if the turnovers did not occur they were in position to score.

 

Bottom line:  this offense is clicking.

 

[billybrew1]

Let’s keep it up but drop the TOs….

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

42 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

This is exceptionally impressive...

 

Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season.

 

I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss

Some people would yell Moon 🌚 landing  😝 

 

old news like from last Friday 

 

 

See Josh Allen records broken thread for many more 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Some people would yell Moon 🌚 landing  😝 

 

old news like from last Friday 

 

 

See Josh Allen records broken thread for many more 

 

Mods please move this if need be. IMO those two topics have nothing to do with each other, I should not be punished.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Mods please move this if need be. IMO those two topics have nothing to do with each other, I should not be punished.

Sorry

 

I FORGOT to use my Sarcasm don’t

 

You are fine. 
It was just an FYI that’s all 

 

 

 

Edited September 14, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[Punching Bag]

5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

You are fine. 
It was just an FYI that’s all 

 

 

 

 

When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records.

 

What about adding no interceptions?

 

It is great they are doing well without this.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records.

 

What about adding no interceptions?

 

It is great they are doing well without this.

without risk there is no reward 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

PFF: "Why are the Bills hesitant to punt?  These and other ST weaknesses exposed!"

[Big Turk]

17 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

When you make combinations like so many rushing yards, rushing TD, etc of course you are going to have "unicorns" of records.

 

What about adding no interceptions?

 

It is great they are doing well without this.

 

He had several of those as well going back to 2020 and 2021 

[Sierra Foothills]

 

And as posted in the related thread, the interception to McKenzie happened at the 24 yard line whereas the fumble by Moss happened at the 16 yard line.

 

There's no plausible scenario where those two drives end in punts.

[Capt ColonBlow]

Love the Bills.  Only one stat that matters.  Winning the super Bowl. Punting? Meh....

[JoshAllin]

Bills are like a real life Madden team with those no punts

[Punching Bag]

7 minutes ago, Capt ColonBlow said:

Love the Bills.  Only one stat that matters.  Winning the super Bowl. Punting? Meh....

 

If Bills punter punts doing a coffin corner kick which one of the special teams players catch on 1 yard like will you like punters?

 

Moorman made punting fun!  He also was hurdler like Josh Allen and made tacklers miss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brian Moorman... master of the fake punt, fake field goal, dropped snap... First down machine! 

https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/brian-moorman-master-of-the-fake-punt-fake-field-goal-dropped-snap-first-down-ma/643924536210123/

 

[1ManRaid]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

This is exceptionally impressive...

 

Bills are the only team in NFL History to not punt 3 times in any rolling 4 game period during the regular season.

 

I am not sure what this period in Bills history will be called looking back but it is already the golden age of offense for this team, even WITH the Kelly era Bills included.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-los-angeles-la-rams-history-sam-martin-punting-record?src=rss

 

The K-Gun has given way to the superior P-None.

[machine gun kelly]

It’s punt watch baby!  Repeat in the home opener.  I think we can do it again in Miami.

 

That record will last if happens.  It would be nice, but not as nice as the Lombardi.

[Kwai San]

'suse me while I kiss the sky......no punts.  Wait - whats a punt???

 

GO BILLS!!!!

[First Round Bust]

ungodly

[Big Turk]

So I ran some numbers from stat muse which has punting stats from 1946.

 

In the Buffalo Bills NFL history(starting with the 1970 season), they have had 7 regular season games with no punts out of 811 NFL regular season games.  4 of them have occurred since 2020. The last time prior to Allen the Bills didn't punt was the famous 1992 "No Punt" game against San Fran where neither team punted, then prior to that in 1990 against the Colts.  Only other time was in 1974 against the Patriots in a game they won 29-28.

 

As good as the Kelly led Bills were offensively, they only accomplished this feat twice.

 

Since 1946, there have been 27,608 regular season "team games" played(ie, 1 game = 2 "team games"). 149 teams have not punted in a game during that time, equating to a 0.5% chance that a team will not punt during a game.

 

So for a 17 game season with 32 teams, equating to 544 "team" games, there should be 2.72 times during an entire season that a team doesn't punt in a game. The Bills nearly did this by themselves, not punting in 2 games.

 

Since 2020, the Bills have not punted in a regular season game at an astonishing 11.8% pace(4 times in a 34 game span). According to the historical NFL average since 1946, it should have required 800 games for the Bills not to have punted in 4 games. In other words, the Bills are not punting at a pace 23.6 times the historical average in NFL history.  This is mind boggling!

 

Add in another one in the playoffs against NE and it becomes 5 times in 35 games and 4 within the last 6, which is almost unfathomable.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk

[HOUSE]

Amazing 

[HardyBoy]

On 9/15/2022 at 11:30 AM, Big Turk said:

So I ran some numbers from stat muse which has punting stats from 1946.

 

In the Buffalo Bills NFL history(starting with the 1970 season), they have had 7 regular season games with no punts out of 811 NFL regular season games.  4 of them have occurred since 2020. The last time prior to Allen the Bills didn't punt was the famous 1992 "No Punt" game against San Fran where neither team punted, then prior to that in 1990 against the Colts.  Only other time was in 1974 against the Patriots in a game they won 29-28.

 

As good as the Kelly led Bills were offensively, they only accomplished this feat twice.

 

Since 1946, there have been 27,608 regular season "team games" played(ie, 1 game = 2 "team games"). 149 teams have not punted in a game during that time, equating to a 0.5% chance that a team will not punt during a game.

 

So for a 17 game season with 32 teams, equating to 544 "team" games, there should be 2.72 times during an entire season that a team doesn't punt in a game. The Bills nearly did this by themselves, not punting in 2 games.

 

Since 2020, the Bills have not punted in a regular season game at an astonishing 11.8% pace(4 times in a 34 game span). According to the historical NFL average since 1946, it should have required 800 games for the Bills not to have punted in 4 games. In other words, the Bills are not punting at a pace 23.6 times the historical average in NFL history.  This is mind boggling!

 

Add in another one in the playoffs against NE and it becomes 5 times in 35 games and 4 within the last 6, which is almost unfathomable.

 

Really well done and interesting to read, thank you!

 

The league started going for it on fourth down and started frowning on punting from inside the 50 fairly recently. Any thoughts on how that might play into things?

 

Ooh, any way to see the average yards per play from say 1990 compared to today? Going for it 4th and 6 seems like a better choice these days than it did in 1990 in terms of passing offense (or maybe rules)...

 

or they could always try a 64 yard fg

[RoyBatty is alive]

On 9/14/2022 at 3:41 PM, eball said:

...actually 4 out of the last 6 counting playoffs...

 

As Josh said, turning the ball over is often worse than a punt, but there is no question this offense has been performing at an astonishing clip.

 

Do you know how many punts were in those last two punt games?  

[Fleezoid]

Bills offense - Just replace Bo Jackson with Josh. 

 

[Marvin]

On 9/14/2022 at 7:51 PM, Limeaid said:

 

If Bills punter punts doing a coffin corner kick which one of the special teams players catch on 1 yard like will you like punters?

 

Moorman made punting fun!  He also was hurdler like Josh Allen and made tacklers miss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brian Moorman... master of the fake punt, fake field goal, dropped snap... First down machine! 

https://www.facebook.com/builtinbuffalo/videos/brian-moorman-master-of-the-fake-punt-fake-field-goal-dropped-snap-first-down-ma/643924536210123/

 

It is sad to think of how many highlights from the drought era have Moorman in them.

[without a drought]

Punting is for losers.