YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Von Miller's last game with Rams shows a patient pass-rush strategy https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/von-millers-last-game-with-rams-shows-a-patient-pass-rush-strategy/article_b396fd3a-2951-11ed-b1b1-8b92b49eb995.html#tracking-source=home-top-story 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I hope he takes that #93 in the top 100 personally.... 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 And that’s exactly the way to envision it, it’s an Attack mentality, read the offense and attack, Go Bills!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Can’t wait to see him finally play as a Bill. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Can’t wait to see him finally play as a Bill. Ditto. I am very, very excited to see the new-look D line in action. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, eball said: Ditto. I am very, very excited to see the new-look D line in action. Gonna need the Dline to step it up since our secondary is definitely less than 100%. If Von performs up to the hype, I feel like the Bills will have a good shot this week. If not... our secondary might be in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Next you're gonna tell me defenses are starting to call their own plays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: Gonna need the Dline to step it up since our secondary is definitely less than 100%. If Von performs up to the hype, I feel like the Bills will have a good shot this week. If not... our secondary might be in trouble. I’ll say what I say every time somebody worries about another team…they also have to play US. I don’t think their defense is slowing Josh down. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, eball said: Ditto. I am very, very excited to see the new-look D line in action. You’re going to the opener iirc? Are you going to the main tailgate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: You’re going to the opener iirc? Are you going to the main tailgate? Yep, going to the big tailgate. You going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, NewEra said: Can’t wait to see him finally play as a Bill. Are you going to watch the game Thursday Night with your pants off? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, eball said: Yep, going to the big tailgate. You going? 99.9%. Have my tickets, flight, air bnb and tailgate tix. As long as my mother doesn’t have any medical set backs between now til then, I’ll be there. Not arriving til Thursday morning 9am though. Flying out Friday evening. 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you going to watch the game Thursday Night with your pants off? 🤣 They’d probably kick me out of the stadium. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, eball said: I’ll say what I say every time somebody worries about another team…they also have to play US. I don’t think their defense is slowing Josh down. As long as our protection holds up our offense is a challenge for anyone. The thing that makes me nervous is our oline. Especially week one vs the Rams... Donald against our guards feels a mismatch. Having it week 1 might help because plenty of time to scheme cleverly to mitigate against that mismatch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: 🤣 They’d probably kick me out of the stadium. Not in LA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you going to watch the game Thursday Night with your pants off? Is there any other way? 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: As long as our protection holds up our offense is a challenge for anyone. The thing that makes me nervous is our oline. Especially week one vs the Rams... Donald against our guards feels a mismatch. Having it week 1 might help because plenty of time to scheme cleverly to mitigate against that mismatch. Donald is a mismatch against anyone. The Rams still somehow lose football games. Edited September 2, 2022 by eball 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Von Miller comes around that edge like a race car 5 minutes ago, eball said: Is there any other way? Donald is a mismatch against anyone. The Rams still somehow lose football games. The only guy I’ve seen win against Donald Was Eric wood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, eball said: Donald is a mismatch against anyone. The Rams still somehow lose football games. They generally lose games to teams who can work out their offense and don't fall for the smoke and mirrors. The Matt Patricia playbook. Ignore the jet motion, ignore the window dressing. Play them like you played the Shanahan Broncos of the 1990s. Bear front, rotate your safeties down late, and don't chase plays, maintain lane discipline. Stafford has made them slightly more adaptable in those situations but the Rams still rely more than most on misdirection. If the Bills play well up front on both sides they will win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: They generally lose games to teams who can work out their offense and don't fall for the smoke and mirrors. The Matt Patricia playbook. Ignore the jet motion, ignore the window dressing. Play them like you played the Shanahan Broncos of the 1990s. Bear front, rotate your safeties down late, and don't chase plays, maintain lane discipline. Stafford has made them slightly more adaptable in those situations but the Rams still rely more than most on misdirection. If the Bills play well up front on both sides they will win the game. If there's one thing I don't worry about from a McD/Frazier defense, it's lack of discipline. Yeah, yeah, 13 seconds, I know, but the point stands based upon their body of work. I am expecting the Bills to score at least 27, and the Rams will be in the 17-23 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: As long as our protection holds up our offense is a challenge for anyone. The thing that makes me nervous is our oline. Especially week one vs the Rams... Donald against our guards feels a mismatch. Having it week 1 might help because plenty of time to scheme cleverly to mitigate against that mismatch. Donald against anybody is usually a mismatch, but I’m not sure I share the same concern about it being “our guards”. It seems like there’s been a lot of handwringing this preseason about the OL due to injury and watching our backups/street guys play most of the snaps. Im cautiously optimistic to see what a Kromer led OL consisting of Dawkins-Saffold-Morse-Bates-Quessenberry/Brown looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: As long as our protection holds up our offense is a challenge for anyone. The thing that makes me nervous is our oline. Especially week one vs the Rams... Donald against our guards feels a mismatch. Having it week 1 might help because plenty of time to scheme cleverly to mitigate against that mismatch. I like the fact that Saffold has familiarity of facing Donald every day in practice from his time with the Rams. Donald is unblockable at times, but I hope that Saffold has some insights which will benefit the rest of the OL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, H2o said: I like the fact that Saffold has familiarity of facing Donald every day in practice from his time with the Rams. Donald is unblockable at times, but I hope that Saffold has some insights which will benefit the rest of the OL. Saffold has never been a particularly good pass blocker though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) my first thought when I read the thread title was rawrrr that is radical. At least the thought of a defender with that mindset. Of course there are certain situations like bull rushing the OLine to get a sack. Or when a DB tries to make n interception. They are clearly trying to win their assignment in the Bills favor. The MLB aka the defensive shotcaller I think has to have a more defensive mindset. But I had never really thought of a Defensive lineman with an offensive mindset. Get the job done and and rack up individual positive stats on the offensive...Offensive to the offensive lines sensibilities...who is the Alpha in this situation. It's Von Miller. rawrrrrr Edited September 2, 2022 by muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, eball said: I’ll say what I say every time somebody worries about another team…they also have to play US. I don’t think their defense is slowing Josh down. Agree, we beat them the last time we played them, and Josh has gotten better since that game, Kromer has some insight on that D, and will plan accordingly, 👍 Edited September 2, 2022 by Don Otreply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: And that’s exactly the way to envision it, it’s an Attack mentality, read the offense and attack, Go Bills!!! I always felt Leslie’s Ds lacked aggressiveness. Hopefully Leslie just didn’t have the ammo to do it. Did Jerry Hughes hit a wall or be told to push the LT back? We’ll see…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, NewEra said: They’d probably kick me out of the stadium. Behavior like that is encouraged in Oakland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 One of the more interesting things for me to see this season is if Von is able to help push the front 7 or I guess front 6 for buffalo to a higher level. I don’t expect him to have a 20 sack DPOY kinda season or anything, but if adding him gets most of the other guys playing at a higher level I’ll be a happy camper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, eball said: Is there any other way? In the conservative south, public places like bars don't allow it. I've tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 His presence is/should make a world of difference for the whole Dline. Excited to see them feast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, billybrew1 said: I always felt Leslie’s Ds lacked aggressiveness. Hopefully Leslie just didn’t have the ammo to do it. Did Jerry Hughes hit a wall or be told to push the LT back? We’ll see…. I would think that any decent defense is a combination of containing an opposing offense and attacking that offense, Beane didn’t pay all that money to bring Von in to play contain, Von also knows he’s not gonna get a sack every snap and that pressure is a valid outcome, provided all the other lineman are doing there bit in conjunction with their on the field leader, Von after all is the one setting the tone, as you said, we shall see, 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 When's the last time we had a bonafide premiere talent on the edge? Mario WIlliams? Bruce? Its gonna be something else watching our front 4 wreak havoc on olines. Cant wait to see how it affects the rest of our D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Under the radar, but if Jordan Phillips can rediscover the magic he had rushing the passer from the inside that he had a couple of years ago, combined with Miller and an improved Rousseau (and throw in some Oliver, DaQuan, and Settle), this could be the best Bills D-line we've seen in years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, brianthomas said: When's the last time we had a bonafide premiere talent on the edge? Mario WIlliams? Bruce? Its gonna be something else watching our front 4 wreak havoc on olines. Cant wait to see how it affects the rest of our D Mario, but he didn’t have the mental part down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Mario, but he didn’t have the mental part down I'm not sure if your'e meaning the whole time he was here, or maybe just during the Rex era. I thought he had mental part down just fine until Rex took over..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm not sure if your'e meaning the whole time he was here, or maybe just during the Rex era. I thought he had mental part down just fine until Rex took over..... I didn’t get the sense that he approached his game the way Von does from a mental perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I didn’t get the sense that he approached his game the way Von does from a mental perspective I got ya.... that doesn't mean he didn't have any mental part down. Many doesn't approach the game like Von. Each player approaches many aspects of the game differently in their own way, including mental. But I thought he had a clear change in mentality shortly after Rex came along.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/2/2022 at 9:53 AM, John from Riverside said: Von Miller comes around that edge like a race car The only guy I’ve seen win against Donald Was Eric wood Eric Wood seemed to anticipate Donald's moves negating him although he probably was very sore after that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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