ganesh Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Forlorn hope said: Lamar Jackson has regressed mightily as predicted the past two years. The dolphins zero blitzed him 36x last year and he was horrid. It was embarrassing for a 4th year qb The pistol he ran in 19 was very much a gimmick offense, similar to the wildcat, and he can be dangerous in rpo concepts. Mainly because it forces man coverage and is a dummy proof offense. Once teams zeroed in on that, he's been really really bad outside of him using his legs for rushing yards I think his career is very much at a crossroads and if he keeps regressing , he'll go down the same path as Kaepernick, Tebow, etc. Nothing wrong with being a mobile QB Roger staubach Elway Randall Cunningham Andrew Luck Mahomes Allen No Steve Young ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Forlorn hope said: Allen and mahomes both said they aren't Changing their contact. They both signed long term for a reason and want to win Exactly. He signed a quarter of a billion $ contract! It's set up perfect for a 4–5 year extension to be signed in 2027. That will take him through the 2032 season. Can you imagine what that contract will be worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Forlorn hope said: Lamar Jackson has regressed mightily as predicted the past two years. The dolphins zero blitzed him 36x last year and he was horrid. It was embarrassing for a 4th year qb The pistol he ran in 19 was very much a gimmick offense, similar to the wildcat, and he can be dangerous in rpo concepts. Mainly because it forces man coverage and is a dummy proof offense. Once teams zeroed in on that, he's been really really bad outside of him using his legs for rushing yards I think his career is very much at a crossroads and if he keeps regressing , he'll go down the same path as Kaepernick, Tebow, etc. Nothing wrong with being a mobile QB Roger staubach Elway Randall Cunningham Andrew Luck Mahomes Allen Etc. But you must be able to make plays as a pocket passer at an advanced level or you will wash out. Maybe, a huge maybe, if you could build a historical oline and defense like 95 Nebraska, you can win big that way. But it has never been done in the NFL Allen and mahomes both said they aren't Changing their contact. They both signed long term for a reason and want to win What else would they say? Any good agent is going to renegotiate their star qbs contract especially if lesser talented guys are making more than them. No other quarterback in the league does more offensively than JA17 and he’s got the numbers and game tape to back it up. He wins a SB you can bet there will be a massive pay bump of some sort for him. It would be rightfully deserved too. Edited September 3, 2022 by Mynamemike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn hope Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mynamemike said: What else would they say? Any good agent is going to renegotiate their star qbs contract especially if lesser talented guys are making more than them. No other quarterback in the league does more offensively than JA17 and he’s got the numbers and game tape to back it up. He wins a SB you can bet there will be a massive pay bump of some sort for him. It would be rightfully deserved too. And Josh Allen or Mahomes will tell his agent no. They are already set and winning is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Wilson's college teammates hate him. Wilson's pro teammates hate him. Apparently he is a snitch that tells coaches when other players are talking about them. He puts on an act for show and the cameras, basically what Canadians would call a Poser. He makes up stuff and acts like it actually happened. He complains his OLine allows him to get hit too much. I am not sure I have ever heard so much vitriol towards a "star" QB without a single person really jumping to his defense. Even Cutler had teammates that defended him when people talked trash...nobody is coming to Wilson's defense... That speaks loudly...he is the real life Bo Callahan https://97rockonline.com/apparently-russell-wilsons-college-teammates-hate-him/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/9/13/23350848/seahawks-players-roasting-russell-wilson-was-the-best-part-of-seattles-17-16-win https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34531802/inside-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-drama-led-denver-broncos-trade Edited September 14, 2022 by Big Turk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Allen vs Mahomes will be like Kelly vs Marino, just not in the same division. I look forward to the many battle I just hope we win the important ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Jokeman Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 12:10 AM, Big Turk said: Wilson's college teammates hate him. Wilson's pro teammates hate him. Apparently he is a snitch that tells coaches when other players are talking about them. He puts on an act for show and the cameras, basically what Canadians would call a Poser. He makes up stuff and acts like it actually happened. He complains his OLine allows him to get hit too much. I am not sure I have ever heard so much vitriol towards a "star" QB without a single person really jumping to his defense. Even Cutler had teammates that defended him when people talked trash...nobody is coming to Wilson's defense... That speaks loudly...he is the real life Bo Callahan https://97rockonline.com/apparently-russell-wilsons-college-teammates-hate-him/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/9/13/23350848/seahawks-players-roasting-russell-wilson-was-the-best-part-of-seattles-17-16-win https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34531802/inside-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-drama-led-denver-broncos-trade Sounds like he's got Doug Flutie syndrome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Sounds like he's got Doug Flutie syndrome. Not exactly...Flutie divided the locker rooms but at least he had half of it on his side and they were very loyal to him. Wilson literally stands alone by himself as everyone throws rotten tomatoes at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/14/2022 at 12:10 AM, Big Turk said: Wilson's college teammates hate him. Wilson's pro teammates hate him. Apparently he is a snitch that tells coaches when other players are talking about them. He puts on an act for show and the cameras, basically what Canadians would call a Poser. He makes up stuff and acts like it actually happened. He complains his OLine allows him to get hit too much. I am not sure I have ever heard so much vitriol towards a "star" QB without a single person really jumping to his defense. Even Cutler had teammates that defended him when people talked trash...nobody is coming to Wilson's defense... That speaks loudly...he is the real life Bo Callahan https://97rockonline.com/apparently-russell-wilsons-college-teammates-hate-him/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/9/13/23350848/seahawks-players-roasting-russell-wilson-was-the-best-part-of-seattles-17-16-win https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34531802/inside-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-drama-led-denver-broncos-trade Russ wanted to cook and now he’s getting burned. Seattle knew this dude was nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Subway right now: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Subway right now: Wilson is so awkward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I've been telling people this for YEARS: Russ was carried by a dominate D and a dominate running game for the entirety of his career. He was never asked to be 'the man.' Now he is, and his true skill set is showing. When teams know he has to pass, he is average at best. It also doesn't help that his head coach is soooo far in over his head, it's hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Suckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Not exactly...Flutie divided the locker rooms but at least he had half of it on his side and they were very loyal to him. Wilson literally stands alone by himself as everyone throws rotten tomatoes at him. He was also a lot better than the alternative at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: He was also a lot better than the alternative at the time. So is Wilson but that didn't stop them, hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I've been telling people this for YEARS: Russ was carried by a dominate D and a dominate running game for the entirety of his career. He was never asked to be 'the man.' Now he is, and his true skill set is showing. When teams know he has to pass, he is average at best. It also doesn't help that his head coach is soooo far in over his head, it's hilarious. In his first 7 years, Wilson had 75 wins--the most in NFL history for that span. During that same period, he had a TD % of 6, second highest in the SB era, 2nd highest passing rating in NFL history, 4th highest passer rating for the previous 27 seasons. After that, he followed up with 11 and 12 wins seasons. In 2017, he accounted for 37 of the team's 38 TDs--yet somehow was not named league MVP. He was the team's leading rusher that year, BTW. Pro Bowl 9 of 10 seasons. Back to back SB, 1 ring. While it's true that the Seahawks had a "dominate" D in points allowed for his first 5 seasons, they then were 13, 11, 22, 15 over the next 4, while the Offense was 11, 6, 9, and 8th in scoring--and the Seahawks won 9, 10, 11, and 12 games over that span and 3 playoffs. As for a "dominate" running game for his entire career, after Lynch (only 4 seasons with Wilson) was gone, their leading rushers were Thomas Rawls, "Christine Michael", Russell Wilson, Chris Carson, and Rashad Penny, lol. Your take is weak on the facts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I've been telling people this for YEARS: Russ was carried by a dominate D and a dominate running game for the entirety of his career. He was never asked to be 'the man.' Now he is, and his true skill set is showing. When teams know he has to pass, he is average at best. It also doesn't help that his head coach is soooo far in over his head, it's hilarious. Imagine bragging about how wrong you’ve been for YEARS 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyBatty is alive Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He is as good of am actor as he is a QB this year. Too bad, Pete Carroll may have lucked out big time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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