Brandon and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

I think if you asked him he'd agree

 

Exactly my point. If you asked Beane he'd say "man, that was not a good week."

 

One of his greatest qualities is his self awareness and his willingness to say "I screwed that up." 

[Locomark]

A terrible week is when your football team is massively hindered from winning games. This didn’t do that. This was a terrible PR week only. The next ugly story will replace it and there is always one right around the corner in the NFL. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Apparently Bills' GM Brandon Beane just had the "worst week of his tenure" as the Bills' GM.  Let's recap:

 

- traded former 2nd round pick Cody Ford to the Cardinals for a 5th rounder after coming to the conclusion Ford would not start on this OL

- released 6th round pick Matt Araiza after sexual assault allegations were revealed in a civil lawsuit

- released FA TE OJ Howard, costing the Bills just under 3M against this year's salary cap

 

As far as I am aware, Beane's dog did not pee on his shoes and his wife did not leave him.  He is still the GM of the team with the best Vegas odds to win the next Super Bowl.  He also just came off an offseason in which he signed future HOF edge rusher Von Miller and orchestrated a draft that is likely to yield several key contributors.  He also beefed up a defensive line that while statistically sound, could never finish the deal against Mahomes and the Chiefs.  He added multiple pieces to the offensive line for both starter and depth options.

 

If only our worst-ever weeks in our jobs could look like this.

 

 

Exactly...

 

Also, I have seen people around here getting on Beane over trading Ford and releasing OJ as if its not completely normal.  Every GM, 100% of all GM's in the league now, the past, and forever in the future cut or trade guys they brought in through draft/signing/trade every single preseason that did not work out.  

 

The insistence on some peoples obsession to remain in the negative lane at all times is utterly mind blowing.  Beane took a perennial loser team, got rid of 100% of the roster, and had them as a SB contender after 2 years of actually rebuilding, and now heading into their 4th year under him recognized as the most talented roster in the NFL by most and the consensus odds on favorite for both the SB and MVP.  

 

But Beane's overall record is clearly better than most, if not all, considering he flipped 100% of the roster over and turned into the consensus best roster in football in a few short years.

 

But hey, you negative minded people go right ahead and keep micro nit picking at the fact OJ Howard or Ford didn't work out, the rest of us are enjoying the ride to not only relevancy, but a perennial winning team and powerhouse contending for Super Bowls instead of watching 7 win teams every year.   

[Captain Caveman]

I think it's fair to recognize that this has indeed been a terrible week for Beane (primarily for how they stuck their heads in the sand over Araiza, also the signing of Howard definitely has backfired) and also recognize he has positioned us as Super Bowl favorites, and is one of the top GMs in the league.  Both of those things can be (and I would say are) true.

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Apparently Bills' GM Brandon Beane just had the "worst week of his tenure" as the Bills' GM.  Let's recap:

 

- traded former 2nd round pick Cody Ford to the Cardinals for a 5th rounder after coming to the conclusion Ford would not start on this OL

- released 6th round pick Matt Araiza after sexual assault allegations were revealed in a civil lawsuit

- released FA TE OJ Howard, costing the Bills just under 3M against this year's salary cap

 

As far as I am aware, Beane's dog did not pee on his shoes and his wife did not leave him.  He is still the GM of the team with the best Vegas odds to win the next Super Bowl.  He also just came off an offseason in which he signed future HOF edge rusher Von Miller and orchestrated a draft that is likely to yield several key contributors.  He also beefed up a defensive line that while statistically sound, could never finish the deal against Mahomes and the Chiefs.  He added multiple pieces to the offensive line for both starter and depth options.

 

If only our worst-ever weeks in our jobs could look like this.

 

The other reason I don’t hate these turn of events is it’s absolutely clear, these guys are aren’t clinging to prior decisions to save face. That’s takes moxie.
 

yep- effed that one up, time to move on… very mature and rational decision making processes at work.  

[Whites Bay]

26 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The other reason I don’t hate these turn of events is it’s absolutely clear, these guys are aren’t clinging to prior decisions to save face. That’s takes moxie.
 

yep- effed that one up, time to move on… very mature and rational decision making processes at work.  

On a far smaller scale, it reminds me of the Kelvin Benjamin "experiment".  That didn't take very long, either.

[BillsfaninSB]

Good teams fix their mistakes and move on.  Bad teams double down.

 

Waiving Howard was a bummer but just like Star, I would rather save a roster spot for someone who is motivated and can help the team then worry about dead cap. 

 

Brandon and the Bills will be fine.

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by BillsfaninSB

[GunnerBill]

49 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Exactly...

 

Also, I have seen people around here getting on Beane over trading Ford and releasing OJ as if its not completely normal.  Every GM, 100% of all GM's in the league now, the past, and forever in the future cut or trade guys they brought in through draft/signing/trade every single preseason that did not work out.  

 

The insistence on some peoples obsession to remain in the negative lane at all times is utterly mind blowing.  Beane took a perennial loser team, got rid of 100% of the roster, and had them as a SB contender after 2 years of actually rebuilding, and now heading into their 4th year under him recognized as the most talented roster in the NFL by most and the consensus odds on favorite for both the SB and MVP.  

 

But Beane's overall record is clearly better than most, if not all, considering he flipped 100% of the roster over and turned into the consensus best roster in football in a few short years.

 

But hey, you negative minded people go right ahead and keep micro nit picking at the fact OJ Howard or Ford didn't work out, the rest of us are enjoying the ride to not only relevancy, but a perennial winning team and powerhouse contending for Super Bowls instead of watching 7 win teams every year.   

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

[I'm Spartacus]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

I wanted to keep Doug Whaley but nobody would listen

Whaley was the GM God.

[CountDorkula]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

Yea but you know this board. Any criticism is not allowed.

Or if you do criticize people turn it into threads/posts like this.

 

I guarantee you if you asked Beane describe your last week, he'd probably say one he'd like to forget. 

[BullBuchanan]

All you can really do at this point is stand behind him and show your support with a LET'S GO BRANDON!

[Alphadawg7]

30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

 

But some are saying that and they say it all the time.  Do you forget the fire beane threads from this past season?  The threads criticizing his draft history?  The rants how everything he has ever said is a lie now with culture?  

 

Sorry, it's just over the top and has been long before this week for some of these people.  

 

And again, 100% of all GMs cut players they drafted, signed or traded for right now.  That doesn't make it a bad week for a GM, it makes it standard NFL football 9 days before the season starts.  Nothing about cutting OJ or trading Ford is a "bad week" for Beane because no GM bats a thousand.  In fact, I would argue that it indicates more than anything he is a great GM who isn't afraid to make the best choice of the team even if it means its contradictory to a previous decision he made.  And has a proven track record of recouping some value in these situations like getting draft picks back.  Lots of teams end up having to cut those players without any compensation back.  

 

As far as the the Araiza thing, of course that does make for a bad week...but more a bad week that he and the team had to go through it in the first place.  Its not Beane's fault that something like this came out after they drafted him and doesn't change the tremendous job he (and McD) have done to rebuild the culture, the roster and tun this losing franchise into a perennial powerhouse.

Edited August 30, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[GoBills808]

29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

They're easily one of the best front offices in the league. 

[RobbRiddick]

"You call this my worst week in a dream, you better wake up and apologize" 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

The Araiza situation on its own would have been a bad week.

 

But ultimately, who cares?  I am fine with the way everything went down. 

 

Cody Ford has sucked forever. Getting a fifth was great. 

 

OJ Howard was a lotto ticket former first rounder with great physical attributes who took a prove-it deal and ultimately did not "prove-it."  It happens.

 

Araiza as a situation was tough IMO.  There was no winning. They did their own evaluation after the story came out, and cut bait. I'm okay with that too.

Edited August 30, 2022 by FireChans

[todzilla]

2 hours ago, TH3 said:

No kidding...how long do you think they can drag it out

That dude from the Olean times said something like " This is only the beginning of this story" 

That whole article was bad. He made a ton of assumptions and twice mentioned how this will haunt them all season. I think it’s about over. Sign a new punter and don’t look back. 

[ngbills]

A few people saying things does not mean anything. Ask 100 people and there will be different opinions. If 5 of 100 say something that should not qualify as everyone, so many or even why are people saying this. Its 5 of 100 peoples opinions.

 

Opinions are allowed. If you think some of the Bills moves are bad this weak that is allowed. It does not mean you think Beane sucks or prefer Whaley. The OJ Howard move kind of blows. Oh well, it happened. Would be nice to have that one back. Hopefully Saffold and Crowder turn out top be good moves.

 

Araiza situation is a mess. Its a national story that spun out of control and the Bills got roped in. Something you normally wont to avoid and many out there think the Bills handled it poorly. It will blow over soon enough. 

[eball]

41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nobody was criticising Beane at the macro scale. But him having to admit he screwed the pooch on the person evaluation as much as the talent evaluation on Ford, then the Araiza situation, then having to cut a guy he gave a pretty guaranteed FA deal to 5 months ago (including a dummy year to kick some cap dollars) is a bad week by anyone's standards. It is arguably his worst week as a Bills GM. 

 

He has had more than enough good weeks to compensate it and many very good weeks, but nobody is nitpicking here. People were just pointing out a fact - the last week has been a bad one for Brandon Beane - he himself would acknowledge that, I guarantee you - and some fans are too sensitive to hear that. 

 

Nobody is saying Beane sucks or Beane should be on the hotseat or Beane is a disaster. It started in the cuts thread as a very simple statement "Beane has taken a few Ls recently." That should not be a controversial statement. It is a matter of fact that he would agree with. I still don't want to swap him for someone else. 

 

Gunner, what you say is how you feel, but it's not how a pretty vocal contingent of fans on this board feel.  You know it's true.

 

I'm not thin skinned and Beane's record stands for itself.  My goal is to make light of the negative ninnies who cry wolf every time things don't go perfectly, and those who harp on the same things again and again and again.

 

I guarantee you Beane felt worse after January's playoff loss then he does this week.

 

[Scott7975]

3 hours ago, eball said:

Apparently Bills' GM Brandon Beane just had the "worst week of his tenure" as the Bills' GM.  Let's recap:

 

- traded former 2nd round pick Cody Ford to the Cardinals for a 5th rounder after coming to the conclusion Ford would not start on this OL

- released 6th round pick Matt Araiza after sexual assault allegations were revealed in a civil lawsuit

- released FA TE OJ Howard, costing the Bills just under 3M against this year's salary cap

 

As far as I am aware, Beane's dog did not pee on his shoes and his wife did not leave him.  He is still the GM of the team with the best Vegas odds to win the next Super Bowl.  He also just came off an offseason in which he signed future HOF edge rusher Von Miller and orchestrated a draft that is likely to yield several key contributors.  He also beefed up a defensive line that while statistically sound, could never finish the deal against Mahomes and the Chiefs.  He added multiple pieces to the offensive line for both starter and depth options.

 

If only our worst-ever weeks in our jobs could look like this.

 

 

Im not too worried about his "bad" week.  ***** happens.  I think Beane is one of the best GMs in the league.

Edited August 30, 2022 by Scott7975

[PJBrown7]

3 hours ago, yall said:

A good portion of the press (Buffalo News, WGR, Rochester papers) have been nothing short of full-on jackasses with their takes on how the Bills handled the Araiza situation.

The Twitter idiots are even worse.