MasterStrategist Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Try to keep up. Beane on Shakir: "he has some versatility but position 1 for him right now is the slot. We are definitely stronger inside than outside and we will continue to look for depth out there." This is from Josh, last week: “He’s done a pretty good job in terms of learning the offense,” Josh Allen said. “He’s been switching up from Z to X and doing a really good job of knowing what he’s doing, being able to be switched around. Someone needs a break because they’re gassed from running something, he’s the first one in and he’s been on top of his stuff in the meetings. He’s going to help this team. I’m excited about him, I really am. Then there is this quote from Beane: "He's Bills DNA through and through," GM Brandon Beane said on the latest episode of Buffalo Bills: Embedded. "A guy that can play inside, can play out. Has some speed, has a little bit of run after the catch ability." I'm not convinced Kumerow makes the team even, so will be fun to revisit this in a few weeks. Your persistent negativity toward the outside WR depth is getting old, and frankly the Jake Kumerow "top backup" will likely turn into complaining of something else once he's released 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 This will change! I’m sure some of these projections are arbitrary at that. Like I have a hard time thinking that Hodgins would start over Shakir if Davis went down or having Quessenberry start over Spencer Brown What I do find surprising though is our DT rotation. I thought for sure that Jordan Phillips would start over Daquan Jones and I find it curious that Bernard is our backup MLB and I find it odd that Elam is behind Dane Jackson and I’m surprised that we have Benford at 2nd string. It will be real cool to see how this changes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Kumerow. I expect the Bills to cut jones this year. Why? Just a gut feel that his time is up. I think we have enough other capable ST players. Jones has one role and one role only. Kumerow, being one of our only potential boundary depth WRs has more value. I’m a long time jones hater. Easy answer for me. He was dead to me when he helped end our season with the best offensive play of his career. Thanks for your input. My whole reasoning behind that post was, do fans really think that the Bills would keep 2 gunners that give next to nothing to their assigned positions? I would think it would come down to Jones's age and the difference in Jones v Kumerow as gunners. If they are somewhat close in their ST roles, I give Kumerow the nod. All that being said, my preference would be a guy like Bernard who gives you LB and ST depth. We all hear about the importance of ST play but we also hear that McDermott want guys that have multiple talent. The roster is mostly locked and it's the few roles like these that are debatable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: This will change! I’m sure some of these projections are arbitrary at that. Like I have a hard time thinking that Hodgins would start over Shakir if Davis went down or having Quessenberry start over Spencer Brown What I do find surprising though is our DT rotation. I thought for sure that Jordan Phillips would start over Daquan Jones and I find it curious that Bernard is our backup MLB and I find it odd that Elam is behind Dane Jackson and I’m surprised that we have Benford at 2nd string. It will be real cool to see how this changes though. Phillips and Jones are different style players, so Jones will start since it will be first down but Phillips will play a lot for sure, maybe even more total plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Just now, Buffalo Timmy said: Phillips and Jones are different style players, so Jones will start since it will be first down but Phillips will play a lot for sure, maybe even more total plays. Agree, Jones to start the series and Phillips in passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Thanks for your input. My whole reasoning behind that post was, do fans really think that the Bills would keep 2 gunners that give next to nothing to their assigned positions? I would think it would come down to Jones's age and the difference in Jones v Kumerow as gunners. If they are somewhat close in their ST roles, I give Kumerow the nod. All that being said, my preference would be a guy like Bernard who gives you LB and ST depth. We all hear about the importance of ST play but we also hear that McDermott want guys that have multiple talent. The roster is mostly locked and it's the few roles like these that are debatable. I think I agree with pretty much everything you’ve posted in the past couple months. 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I think I agree with pretty much everything you’ve posted in the past couple months. 👍🏻 Well, that jinxed me. LOL Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Agree, Jones to start the series and Phillips in passing downs. 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Phillips and Jones are different style players, so Jones will start since it will be first down but Phillips will play a lot for sure, maybe even more total plays. 12 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: This will change! I’m sure some of these projections are arbitrary at that. Like I have a hard time thinking that Hodgins would start over Shakir if Davis went down or having Quessenberry start over Spencer Brown What I do find surprising though is our DT rotation. I thought for sure that Jordan Phillips would start over Daquan Jones and I find it curious that Bernard is our backup MLB and I find it odd that Elam is behind Dane Jackson and I’m surprised that we have Benford at 2nd string. It will be real cool to see how this changes though. Phillips is huge, but is a penetrating DT more than a stuffer. He’s kinda terrible vs the run. Jones is the starter 💯. If Jones misses time, I think Settle would start opposite Oliver. 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Well, that jinxed me. LOL Thanks. Nah man, you’re on point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, NewEra said: Phillips is huge, but is a penetrating DT more than a stuffer. He’s kinda terrible vs the run. Jones is the starter 💯. If Jones misses time, I think Settle would start opposite Oliver. Nah man, you’re on point Exactly, Phillips will be Oliver's backup at 3 tech, and we know how the Bills like to rotate the Dline. I bet with see Phillips with Settle a good bit... And then Oliver and Phillips rushing on obvious long passing downs. 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Kumerow. I expect the Bills to cut jones this year. Why? Just a gut feel that his time is up. I think we have enough other capable ST players. Jones has one role and one role only. Kumerow, being one of our only potential boundary depth WRs has more value. I’m a long time jones hater. Easy answer for me. He was dead to me when he helped end our season with the best offensive play of his career. I'm wondering if Benford is getting snaps at gunner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Thanks for your input. My whole reasoning behind that post was, do fans really think that the Bills would keep 2 gunners that give next to nothing to their assigned positions? I would think it would come down to Jones's age and the difference in Jones v Kumerow as gunners. If they are somewhat close in their ST roles, I give Kumerow the nod. All that being said, my preference would be a guy like Bernard who gives you LB and ST depth. We all hear about the importance of ST play but we also hear that McDermott want guys that have multiple talent. The roster is mostly locked and it's the few roles like these that are debatable. Agree. The Bills don't need to keep TWO more dedicated gunners when they've also got Siran Neal newly inked up. I know Neal sees the field on defense, but isn't he considered a lock at one of the gunner spots? If so, there's not much to justify keeping two more guys for the job who aren't likely see the field at their respective positions (except as injury backups). So I think it's time one of these two get waived (I prefer to vote off Jones, personally), UNLESS maybe Kumerow suddenly factors into their plans at WR? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Victory Formation said: What I do find surprising though is our DT rotation. I thought for sure that Jordan Phillips would start over Daquan Jones and I find it curious that Bernard is our backup MLB and I find it odd that Elam is behind Dane Jackson and I’m surprised that we have Benford at 2nd string. Daquan Jones isn't starting ahead of Jordan Phillips. Ed Oliver is starting ahead of Jordan Phillips. For all his size, Jordan Phillips is a 3TDT like Oliver. Daquan Jones is starting ahead of Tim Settle, they're the new 1TDT Lotulelei/Harrison Phillips replacements The Bills turned over 3 of 4 positions at DT this off season. It's not that they didn't have to do it - Harrison Phillips struggled with both injuries and consistency; Lotulelei was "phoning it in" too much; Butler never lived up to his 1st round status. Bills were overpaying for under-performance. They had to do it, but I hope they did it right Edited August 10, 2022 by Beck Water 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 9 hours ago, NewEra said: Kumerow. I expect the Bills to cut jones this year. Why? Just a gut feel that his time is up. I think we have enough other capable ST players. Jones has one role and one role only. Kumerow, being one of our only potential boundary depth WRs has more value. I’m a long time jones hater. Easy answer for me. He was dead to me when he helped end our season with the best offensive play of his career. This is the first year I think a Taiwan Jones cut is possible, but right now I still lean towards he makes it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 10 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Kumerow is the likely cut. I just don’t see how he makes it this year. We have to many new guys or guys that have made improvements. Diggs Davis McKenzie Shakir Hodgins The last spot or spots, is going to come down to (Crowder, Tavon, Kumerow) . Given that we need a PR and Tavon is currently #1 on the depth chart, it’s hard to see a path for Kumerow given that Hodgins is the backup behind Davis. I would not be surprised to see Beane attempt to send Kumerow back to GB. But Kumerow is the backup to Diggs on that same chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Try to keep up. Beane on Shakir: "he has some versatility but position 1 for him right now is the slot. We are definitely stronger inside than outside and we will continue to look for depth out there." Oh my God, that's HILARIOUS!! You're so desperate that you change the quote and carefully leave the link off, so nobody can check it? HILARIOUS!!! Here's the actual quote, the whole thing, with a link so anyone who wants can check it: "Shakir had a nice day yesterday, I think position 1 for him is probably right now slot as well, but he can play outside, he's got some versatility. I would definitely say we're stronger from a depth point inside than outside, we'll continue to look." https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/howard-and-jeremy-20258/hjs-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-1516265348 Somehow BADOL accidentally left out the part of the quote that is most damaging to his argument. Isn't that a funny coincidence? Weirdly, he put the whole quote in quotation marks, moved things around to slant it a bit more towards his argument, and left out that part. Shockingly, he forgot to put the ellipses in there to show he left something out. Anyone surprised he'd deliberately mess up a quote if it served his argument? The guy who, referring specifically to that quote above said, "Just last week Brandon Beane said Shakir was a slot receiver"? Anyone surprised? Anyone? Edited August 10, 2022 by Thurman#1 3 1 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: But Kumerow is the backup to Diggs on that same chart. Competing in that chart only with (outside of Gabe Davis and Diggs, obviously) Hodgins, Marquez Stevenson, Tanner Gentry and Neil Pau'u, by the way. In real life, several others are running reps at outside WR in camp. But I'm with you that I think Kumerow is going to make the roster. He's pretty cheap and they absolutely love him on STs beyond any time he might spend at WR. Edited August 10, 2022 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Competing in that chart only with (outside of Gabe Davis and Diggs, obviously) Hodgins, Marquez Stevenson, Tanner Gentry and Neil Pau'u, by the way. In real life, several others are running reps at outside WR in camp. But I'm with you that I think Kumerow is going to make the roster. He's pretty cheap and they absolutely love him on STs beyond any time he might spend at WR. I didn't even really mean Kumerow is a lock for the roster. I just meant using the depth chart as evidence that Hodgins will make it because he is the backup to Davis over Kumerow who is the backup to Diggs doesn't make sense. I do happen to think Kumerow will make it but that wasn't really my point here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Oh my God, that's HILARIOUS!! You're so desperate that you change the quote and carefully leave the link off, so nobody can check it? HILARIOUS!!! Here's the actual quote, the whole thing, with a link so anyone who wants can check it: "Shakir had a nice day yesterday, I think position 1 for him is probably right now slot as well, but he can play outside, he's got some versatility. I would definitely say we're stronger from a depth point inside than outside, we'll continue to look." https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/howard-and-jeremy-20258/hjs-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-1516265348 Somehow BADOL accidentally left out the part of the quote that is most damaging to his argument. Isn't that a funny coincidence? Weirdly, he put the whole quote in quotation marks, moved things around to slant it a bit more towards his argument, and left out that part. Shockingly, he forgot to put the ellipses in there to show he left something out. Anyone surprised he'd deliberately mess up a quote if it served his argument? The guy who, referring specifically to that quote above said, "Just last week Brandon Beane said Shakir was a slot receiver"? Anyone surprised? Anyone? Its par for the course for him so it’s definitely not a surprise. He constantly calls out others for being a douchebag too 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 1:17 PM, Bangarang said: Wouldn’t all signs indicate that Tre will be back sooner rather than later? They just keep saying “he’s on schedule “ without details of what that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Oh my God, that's HILARIOUS!! You're so desperate that you change the quote and carefully leave the link off, so nobody can check it? HILARIOUS!!! Here's the actual quote, the whole thing, with a link so anyone who wants can check it: "Shakir had a nice day yesterday, I think position 1 for him is probably right now slot as well, but he can play outside, he's got some versatility. I would definitely say we're stronger from a depth point inside than outside, we'll continue to look." https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/howard-and-jeremy-20258/hjs-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-1516265348 Somehow BADOL accidentally left out the part of the quote that is most damaging to his argument. Isn't that a funny coincidence? Weirdly, he put the whole quote in quotation marks, moved things around to slant it a bit more towards his argument, and left out that part. Shockingly, he forgot to put the ellipses in there to show he left something out. Anyone surprised he'd deliberately mess up a quote if it served his argument? The guy who, referring specifically to that quote above said, "Just last week Brandon Beane said Shakir was a slot receiver"? Anyone surprised? Anyone? From the horses mouth, one day ago: “He’s done a pretty good job in terms of learning the offense,” Josh Allen said. “He’s been switching up from Z to X and doing a really good job of knowing what he’s doing, being able to be switched around. Someone needs a break because they’re gassed from running something, he’s the first one in and he’s been on top of his stuff in the meetings. He’s going to help this team. I’m excited about him, I really am.” But what does he know! https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2022/08/09/buffalo-bills-training-camp-news-wr-khalil-shakir-has-been-turning-heads/65395396007/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Motorin' said: From the horses mouth, one day ago: “He’s done a pretty good job in terms of learning the offense,” Josh Allen said. “He’s been switching up from Z to X and doing a really good job of knowing what he’s doing, being able to be switched around. Someone needs a break because they’re gassed from running something, he’s the first one in and he’s been on top of his stuff in the meetings. He’s going to help this team. I’m excited about him, I really am.” But what does he know! https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2022/08/09/buffalo-bills-training-camp-news-wr-khalil-shakir-has-been-turning-heads/65395396007/ Interesting. Those are outside receiver spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Interesting. Those are outside receiver spots. I think Z is slot in the Bills offense. And X is outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: I think Z is slot in the Bills offense. And X is outside. Interesting. I searched the internet and always saw Y as the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Doc said: Interesting. I searched the internet and always saw Y as the slot. It's a bit confusing. In traditional 2 we sets the Y is The TE. X is the "split end" and plays right up on the line of scrimmage. Z plays off the line of scrimmage, and in old school football terms is the flanker, meaning he can go in motion. If the Z lines up on the line of scrimmage, he's "covering the TE" and makes the TE an inelligble receiver. In 3 & 4 wr formations there's a Z and a slot wr, both playing off the line of scrimmage and able to go in motion. Edited August 10, 2022 by Motorin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Oh my God, that's HILARIOUS!! You're so desperate that you change the quote and carefully leave the link off, so nobody can check it? HILARIOUS!!! Here's the actual quote, the whole thing, with a link so anyone who wants can check it: "Shakir had a nice day yesterday, I think position 1 for him is probably right now slot as well, but he can play outside, he's got some versatility. I would definitely say we're stronger from a depth point inside than outside, we'll continue to look." https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/howard-and-jeremy-20258/hjs-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-1516265348 Somehow BADOL accidentally left out the part of the quote that is most damaging to his argument. Isn't that a funny coincidence? Weirdly, he put the whole quote in quotation marks, moved things around to slant it a bit more towards his argument, and left out that part. Shockingly, he forgot to put the ellipses in there to show he left something out. Anyone surprised he'd deliberately mess up a quote if it served his argument? The guy who, referring specifically to that quote above said, "Just last week Brandon Beane said Shakir was a slot receiver"? Anyone surprised? Anyone? Well, there goes @BADOLBILZ's credibility...if he ever had any. Well done, Thurman. We can expect a response full of emojis and ellipses shortly. Hilarious. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 From Joe Buscaglia's training camp report today: Quote We’ve heard some rumblings from quarterback Josh Allen that the Bills are working rookie fifth-round draft pick Khalil Shakir in at the boundary receiver positions. But Wednesday was as strong of a confirmation as we’ve seen that Shakir is on the Bills’ minds as a potential backup boundary receiver should anything happen to Diggs or starting receiver Gabriel Davis. Shakir mainly had been thought of strictly as a slot receiver entering training camp, but he is showing more versatility than what was projected externally. After missing the last two practices with general soreness, Shakir was able to work with the Allen-led offense on Wednesday. Shakir wasn’t exclusively with Allen, but the important thing is they were giving him those reps. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: From Joe Buscaglia's training camp report today: So I believe Kumerow is one of our better gunners. If Shakir becomes our primary boundary back up, who would our gunners be? Assuming this would mean Kumerow gets cut. And maybe Hodges makes it based on the camp reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: From Joe Buscaglia's training camp report today: Nice! I figured he could put it off. While he has short arms, he has a great release package due to his great footwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBbeliever Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 3:42 PM, Allen2Diggs said: Quessenberry over Spencer Brown was the shocking one for me. It can't just be due to injury since Tre is still listed as a starter. I thought Brown played very well as a rookie starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: From Joe Buscaglia's training camp report today: As I've been saying, develop him outside since they have a need there and have slot covered, unless/until he proves he can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So I believe Kumerow is one of our better gunners. If Shakir becomes our primary boundary back up, who would our gunners be? Assuming this would mean Kumerow gets cut. And maybe Hodges makes it based on the camp reports. I'm thinking we will keep 6 WRs and it will look like this: -Diggs and Davis as the top 2 (obviously) -McKenzie and Crowder sharing time in the slot -Shakir as the backup/rotational outside and slot WR, so basically the same role Davis had as a rookie -One of Kumerow or Austin depending on which special teams skill set the Bills think they can find elsewhere on the roster (if they need a gunner more keep Kumerow, if they need a returner more keep Austin) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 19 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Oh my God, that's HILARIOUS!! You're so desperate that you change the quote and carefully leave the link off, so nobody can check it? HILARIOUS!!! Here's the actual quote, the whole thing, with a link so anyone who wants can check it: "Shakir had a nice day yesterday, I think position 1 for him is probably right now slot as well, but he can play outside, he's got some versatility. I would definitely say we're stronger from a depth point inside than outside, we'll continue to look." https://www.audacy.com/podcasts/howard-and-jeremy-20258/hjs-bills-general-manager-brandon-beane-1516265348 Somehow BADOL accidentally left out the part of the quote that is most damaging to his argument. Isn't that a funny coincidence? Weirdly, he put the whole quote in quotation marks, moved things around to slant it a bit more towards his argument, and left out that part. Shockingly, he forgot to put the ellipses in there to show he left something out. Anyone surprised he'd deliberately mess up a quote if it served his argument? The guy who, referring specifically to that quote above said, "Just last week Brandon Beane said Shakir was a slot receiver"? Anyone surprised? Anyone? Dude was all over this thread prior to this post Thinking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Sweeney outplaying Howard in camp really blows….Still think the offensive depth is really meh all around…. Saturday will be a good gauge of that. 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: From Joe Buscaglia's training camp report today: 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: We’ve heard some rumblings from quarterback Josh Allen that the Bills are working rookie fifth-round draft pick Khalil Shakir in at the boundary receiver positions. But Wednesday was as strong of a confirmation as we’ve seen that Shakir is on the Bills’ minds as a potential backup boundary receiver should anything happen to Diggs or starting receiver Gabriel Davis. Shakir mainly had been thought of strictly as a slot receiver entering training camp, but he is showing more versatility than what was projected externally. After missing the last two practices with general soreness, Shakir was able to work with the Allen-led offense on Wednesday. Shakir wasn’t exclusively with Allen, but the important thing is they were giving him those reps. I’m really surprised that you haven’t commented on this report @ScottLaw You should be excited considering that our 5th round draft pick could be filling the void at outside WR depth so we aren’t stuck with Kumerow of Davis or Diggs gets hurt. Considering how much you talk about the depth there, I figured you’d be showering the board with positivity! Edited August 11, 2022 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Latest from Joe B- https://theathletic.com/3496118/2022/08/10/bills-camp-observations-khalil-shakir/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 "Shakir helps fill the Diggs void as Bills shuffle WRs We’ve heard some rumblings from quarterback Josh Allen that the Bills are working rookie fifth-round draft pick Khalil Shakir in at the boundary receiver positions. But Wednesday was as strong of a confirmation as we’ve seen that Shakir is on the Bills’ minds as a potential backup boundary receiver should anything happen to Diggs or starting receiver Gabriel Davis. Shakir mainly had been thought of strictly as a slot receiver entering training camp, but he is showing more versatility than what was projected externally." Looks like @BADOLBILZ was right! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 12 hours ago, NewEra said: I’m really surprised that you haven’t commented on this report @ScottLaw You should be excited considering that our 5th round draft pick could be filling the void at outside WR depth so we aren’t stuck with Kumerow of Davis or Diggs gets hurt. Considering how much you talk about the depth there, I figured you’d be showering the board with positivity! As sure as the sun rises and sets, you can count on the fact that @ScottLaw and @BADOLBILZ will never, ever admit their takes are anything but 100% correct -- and as we've seen in this thread, at least one of them will go to extreme lengths to mislead as well! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/8/2022 at 9:14 PM, NewEra said: Meanwhile… around the NFL- WR5-9ish The Bucs are absolutely loaded. The packers, who have a poor wr1-4 have solid 5-6 with Amari Rodgers, Romeo Doubs then no one. chiefs- Josh Gordon, Justin Watson, daurice fountain, Cornell powell, Corey Coleman, Omar bayless. chargers: deandre Carter, Jason moore jr, Joe Reed, Michael bandy, Michael Ffrench rams- tutu atwell, Brandon powell, Jacob harris, austin trammel, Landon akers bengals- Stanley Morgan, Trent taylor, Kwame Lassiter the 2nd, Trenton Irwin, pooka Williams broncos- Montrell Washington, Tyrone cleveland, Seth Williams, Travis fulgham titans- dez Fitzpatrick, racey mcmath, Cody hollister, Mason Kinsey, Josh Malone Cowboys- Noah brown, Dennis Houston, TJ vasher, simi fehoko, Kevonte Turpin. niners- Ray Ray, Malik Turner, Marcus johnson, willie Snead. Bills- shakir, austin, Kumerow, Hodgins, Stevenson. People here complain about our WR depth. Fans of every team complain about WR depth….. except the Bucs. We’ll be fine. If someone goes down, Beane, McD and Dorsey will figure it out. 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yea… looking forward to seeing how he plays on the outside Saturday…. Still think the depth on offense is very meh/could be a problem. Maybe you should wait till he actually plays a regular season game before blowing your load. 😉 The same can be said for just about every team in the nfl minus TB. So join the club. But do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, NewEra said: The same can be said for just about every team in the nfl minus TB. So join the club. But do you. If only the Jets got JuJu last year...they would have been up there with TB's WR as far as depth and skill. On 3/18/2021 at 10:49 AM, ScottLaw said: They’d have a damn good group of receivers. Davis, JuJu, Crowder, and Mims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The Jets have an even better group this year… turns out it actuallly matters who’s throwing them the ball😅 Jaylan Waddle had Tua throwing to him. DJ Moore had Sam Darnold and Cam Newton throwing to him last year. Denzel Mims....31 catches in the last two seasons. Crowder on the Jets....damned good group of WR. Crowder on the Bills....meh. Edited August 11, 2022 by Royale with Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Mims has been a disappointment and Crowder was hurt for much of last season and I’m a Crowder fan…. the Jets never signed JuJu… I think the Bills have a good starting WR corps… is it top 5 in the league? No. I’d say outside top 10 looking in…. The concern is if Davis/Diggs get hurt it becomes a pretty mediocre unit due to lack of depth ATM. Pretty much every team in the league of they lose their #1 and #2 WR, they will be hurting. See @NewErapost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 3:08 PM, NickelCity said: Which is kind of funny since our OLine depth is easily the weakest spot on the roster. I know that I'll be looking at other teams OLine cuts... Which is even funnier Bills had been signing their OL castoffs previous years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Well the Bills had Gabe Davis as their back up in case of injury to Sanders last season…and vice versa….now they have Jake Kumerow so they’ve gotten worse….and not all depth is created equal for every team. Good grief, how many times do ppl need to repeat that Shakir is VERY likely to serve as the "main backup", but we have others not named Kumerow who will get snaps outside. Kumerow is a backup on a depth chart that means absolutely jack right now. Just like last season, he was listed as a main backup outside...repeat did NOT translate to meaningful snaps. He might not even make the roster this yr, certainly not a lock.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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