YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: Lots of dildos will be in force at Highmark 11/20 I’m afraid of what Watson would do with those 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Goodell can certainly suspend him indefinitely. We don't know what he will do yet. Watson is too good of a football player for that to happen. If Watson was a marginally talented player, you can bet your *** the hammer would have been smashed by now. The NFL is taking a financially calculated risk here by thinking Watson will generate the league more money than it will lose. Business decisions. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Goodell can certainly suspend him indefinitely. We don't know what he will do yet. Hmm. I don't think he can. It is at best arguable following the Rice arbitration. He would need a truly exceptional reason and I don't think he has one. Especially given even the civil cases have all settled now bar 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Goodell can certainly suspend him indefinitely. We don't know what he will do yet. And then NFLPA will dispute that suspension, and then Watson will play week one while it's being arbitrated. So no, he can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: 15 minutes for every alleged assault. Clearly prosecutors are having problems with the allegations because so far they've declined to press charges. I'm not trying to defend the indefensible. I have daughters and despise sexual predators. If even one allegation is true, I want to see Watson do jail time. And if I had to guess, I'd guess that at least one of the allegations is true. But there's got to be some issues with the testimony because neither the legal system nor the NFL is coming down hard on Watson. They are no longer alleged. He settled with every one of these women. You are correct the legal system let everyone down but there is no question of him committing these disgusting acts. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Goodell can certainly suspend him indefinitely. We don't know what he will do yet. Goodell doesn’t want the nflpa in federal court talking about Kraft, Snyder etc… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Just 6 games is nuts. I have seen that many games for taking prescribed meds. Anyhow....what is the downfall of the NFL appealing this? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: They are no longer alleged. He settled with every one of these women. You are correct the legal system let everyone down but there is no question of him committing these disgusting acts. settling is not directly an admission of guilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, FireChans said: And then NFLPA will dispute that suspension, and then Watson will play week one while it's being arbitrated. So no, he can't. But yes he can. Not sure what you have been reading but he still gets final say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, NoSaint said: Goodell doesn’t want the nflpa in federal court talking about Kraft, Snyder etc… Bingo. It’s not going to happen. Take it to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: The NFL will claim they tried for a full year but the judge made the decision. yup— this gives the NFL lots of cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, NoSaint said: settling is not directly an admission of guilt Admission of liability.... guilt is a criminal law concept. But yes, you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: And this is why it's a lose/lose situation now for the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Hmm. I don't think he can. It is at best arguable following the Rice arbitration. He would need a truly exceptional reason and I don't think he has one. Especially given even the civil cases have all settled now bar 1. Not saying he will, but he has the authority to do so if he chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: yup— this gives the NFL lots of cover. lol it’s 100% why they did it. People are so obtuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Not saying he will, but he has the authority to do so if he chooses. And I am saying that is not certain. The Rice arbitration ruled the imposition of an indefinite suspension unlawful. Now there are circumstances of that case that lead some to argue it does not create a precedent but it is at best arguable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Judge Sue Robinson? Hope she announced the verdict like this… Turn the season round Just six games suspension Gonna help the Browns Just six games suspension 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 The expected slap on the wrist. What a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: But yes he can. Not sure what you have been reading but he still gets final say No he can try, which will be disputed and result in Watson playing week one, and will lose. Which is why he is not. He does NOT get final say on indefinite suspensions lmao. We have seen this play out before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: settling is not directly an admission of guilt No but in the court of public opinion it is. The personal conduct policy does not require any legal action. He committed these acts. There is no doubt that he did. First the grand jury let all these women down, and now he gets away with what almost $200M guaranteed??? Like others gave said I'm outraged and disgusted. I'm thankful he is not on the Bills. However, this situation will not changing my viewing habits of the Bills and the NFL, so I'm just as complicit in this as most fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) The stipulation should have been all future massages have to be at the facility by a certified MALE masseuse. If he is caught going elsewhere then he is kicked out of the league indefinitely Edited August 1, 2022 by KDIGGZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I will also note, that while most of the commenters here are rightfully harshly judging the Browns, and Watson. However the last I looked OJ Simpsons name is still disgustingly on the Stadiums "Ring of Honor". And their is 100% no doubt he brutally butchered two people to death!! While were worrying about some coerced hand jobs? Watson's garbage, and will be rightfully suspended. But let's get off our high horses here in western NY. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, FireChans said: First it was the Alex Jones guy, now we got Bonnie Nettles over here talking about our collective sickness? Are you wearing black Nikes? How is it not? Giving the NFL money while being upset? What would you call it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Admission of liability.... guilt is a criminal law concept. But yes, you are right. and liability is a broad word here right? You can settle a lawsuit if you have done nothing wrong but want to avoid the circus of an accusation. I’m not saying it’s the case here but many get these concepts mixed up and it’s a real important baseline to these discussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, NoSaint said: and liability is a broad word here right? You can settle a lawsuit if you have done nothing wrong but want to avoid the circus of an accusation. I’m not saying it’s the case here but many get these concepts mixed up and it’s a real important baseline to these discussions Yea most civil suits are settled absent an admission of liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: No he can try, which will be disputed and result in Watson playing week one, and will lose. Which is why he is not. He does NOT get final say on indefinite suspensions lmao. We have seen this play out before. not to mention Watson taking the nfl to federal court and asking for review of evidence against craft, for instance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: not to mention Watson taking the nfl to federal court and asking for review of evidence against craft, for instance. You just know it would happen. That’s the last thing they want. More public eyes on this. Not that it would probably matter. People used to watch other people kill other people for entertainment. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 games.....Really? 6 games. Calvin Ridley gets a year for "gambling", but Watson gets 6 for being a serial predator? Bruh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: settling is not directly an admission of guilt No but in the court of public opinion it is. The personal conduct policy does not require any legal action. He committed these acts. There is no doubt that he did. First the grand jury let all these women down, and now he gets away with what almost $200M guaranteed??? Like others gave said I'm outraged and disgusted. I'm thankful he is not on the Bills. However, this situation will not changing my viewing habits of the Bills and the NFL, so I'm just as complicit in this as most fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, H2o said: 6 games.....Really? 6 games. Calvin Ridley gets a year for "gambling", but Watson gets 6 for being a serial predator? Bruh. Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly. From a brand tarnishment point of view, absolutely. Would a lot of people stop watching the NFL if they truly found out it was rigged? I know I would. There are times I feel like it is, but have no proof of it. If it was ever proved to be rigged, I’d stop watching tomorrow. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly. Unless it was your daughter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter That's irrelevant in more than a couple ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes, a stern talking to, wouldn’t want to actually punish the guy for his long term abhorrent behavior…, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter That doesn't change their impact on the integrity of the game. The action isn't worse. Its risk to the NFL is worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter again, on the field and off the field impacts being far different issues to deal with. And the CBA addresses them as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter No, it still wouldn’t change the matter. It would still be utterly disgusting and appalling, but individual actions don’t have nearly the ruinous affect that collective rigging would. It would kill the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Yet another example of the NFL looking the other way for talented players. Isn't that the ultimate slap in the face of Kaepernick's legacy? We'll put up with numerous domestic abusers, and a high-profile serial sexual assaulter because he's actually good. But you're the only one that ever got "blackballed." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, benderbender said: Yet another example of the NFL looking the other way for talented players. Isn't that the ultimate slap in the face of Kaepernick's legacy? We'll put up with numerous domestic abusers, and a high-profile serial sexual assaulter because he's actually good. But you're the only one that ever got "blackballed." They are a business. They are going to keep doing it until their bottom line is affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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