nucci Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: You know these people are paid millions to have sources right? If you didn't, now ya do I know and here are 3 reports from 3 different sources...... "considered relatively minor", likely a hip pointer", still being evaluated". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Awwufelloff Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: Can you really say anything about how injury rate affected the Texans in 2020 or did they just suck regardless? There's no clear trend with increasing injury, it's just a cluster of spread data with San Fran and Dallas as outliers. Not like it follows the drawn line in any way, hinting it's an incorrect analysis. "Right now, few public metrics capture the impact that injuries can have on a team’s on-field performance. " https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-data-study-war-adjusted-injuries-lost The point of the article is to use Bayesian statistics to predict how much teams W-L records have been affected by injuries and ultimately attempt to predict how records will be affected by sustained injuries in-season. It's a valiant but seemingly feeble attempt as they tie it to pre-season records. Gotta start somewhere though. I can find zero basis for the "we're due for a rash of injuries" you seem to feel the data supports. They do make the point with a chart that injuries are random and unpredictable so I guess you can claim karma but they don't deal with that here. Injuries have 3rd least affected our W-L record compared to preseason. Great. I feel like their time would be better spent comparing injury rates between established teams with consistent coaching and training staffs versus teams with high turnover of personnel and/or coaches year-to-year. I would guess poor training staffs and players being out of position or confused due to inexperience and/or new Coordinators would have the biggest impact on injury rate above baseline. Good points, can’t disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: We’ve been so starved for good TE play that we think last year he was a stud…compared to other TE, though, he was solid, but nothing special imo No…no he’s not… I find it hard to argue he’s not top 10 most desirable, especially considering his age and trajectory. If we had top 10 players across the board and Josh, I like our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Josh "I'm Bringing Planking Back" Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ya Digg? Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Meh, Josh already did that the other day…apparently Von is just a follower, not a leader 😬🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: "As a precautionary measure, they may have removed his spleen. He is pre-registered for a hip replacement, but it is not yet known whether it is his hip." That is the kind of reporting we are seeing to date. Care to guess along with the media? Is that you Thad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Fleezoid said: Is a hip injury considered an upper body, or lower body injury? Cuz really, that's all we need to know. "One of our defensive players has a lower body. That's all we have at this time" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, gobills404 said: He’s a great tight end that doesn’t get the targets he deserves. If he played in an offense with either 1 or 0 good receivers, like all of the top producing tight ends, he would put up huge numbers. Yo, Crispy, this on top of (11) eleven TDs so…., I’m waiting…, 😁👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevewin Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: mckittrick (is that still a thing?) As it was, is, and always shall be 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: Can you really say anything about how injury rate affected the Texans in 2020 or did they just suck regardless? There's no clear trend with increasing injury, it's just a cluster of spread data with San Fran and Dallas as outliers. Not like it follows the drawn line in any way, hinting it's an incorrect analysis. "Right now, few public metrics capture the impact that injuries can have on a team’s on-field performance. " https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-data-study-war-adjusted-injuries-lost The point of the article is to use Bayesian statistics to predict how much teams W-L records have been affected by injuries and ultimately attempt to predict how records will be affected by sustained injuries in-season. It's a valiant but seemingly feeble attempt as they tie it to pre-season records. Gotta start somewhere though. I can find zero basis for the "we're due for a rash of injuries" you seem to feel the data supports. They do make the point with a chart that injuries are random and unpredictable so I guess you can claim karma but they don't deal with that here. Injuries have 3rd least affected our W-L record compared to preseason. Great. I feel like their time would be better spent comparing injury rates between established teams with consistent coaching and training staffs versus teams with high turnover of personnel and/or coaches year-to-year. I would guess poor training staffs and players being out of position or confused due to inexperience and/or new Coordinators would have the biggest impact on injury rate above baseline. The Bills injury rate has been lower BECAUSE of the emphasis the Bills place on cutting edge Sports Science, tracking players movement and giving them rest once they exceed a certain threshold, ensuring they receive state of the art treatment and playing it safe with returning if the player is susceptible to re-injury, and having a world class training facility that no other team can boast of. There is a reason the Bills have been in the top 5 for fewest man games lost to injury every year McDermott has been here and it stems from making sure they are doing everything possible to support resting players properly before they reach a point where the soft tissue injuries are likely to start happening, ensuring they are receiving optimal treatments to support their recovery and not trying to rush them back from injury too soon. This isn't luck, it's by design. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Can anyone confirm if Hyde will be getting a hip replacement? It was being reported that he was consulting with Bo Jackson on the matter.......😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevewin Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Quote Miller’s most regular victim on Friday was second-year linemen Tommy Doyle. The youngster lined up at left tackle for Dawkins and was just simply outmatched by Miller throughout practice. Doyle had two reps where he ended up on the ground after struggling to deal with the speed of Miller. On the second one he wound up in a split as he tried to stay with Miller and on his feet. Miller flew around the edge and left Doyle in the dust. Also, another report mentioning another good day from Epenesa - he's stacking them 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BIGFOOTspaceman Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: My sources say that Micah has died ☹️ This is offensive. Shouldn't joke about people dying. SMH 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Has anyone seen him cutting yet? That's the big issue with ACLs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, SCBills said: I can’t stop watching this.. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Josh "I'm Bringing Planking Back" Allen Reminds me of Johnny Manziel 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: We’ve been so starved for good TE play that we think last year he was a stud…compared to other TE, though, he was solid, but nothing special imo No…no he’s not… You know Muppy is going to put you on ignore now . . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, stevewin said: Also, another report mentioning another good day from Epenesa - he's stacking them Cautiously optimistic about aj. We heard the same thing in camp last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: You know Muppy is going to put you on ignore now . . . Dawson Knox made a lot of plays last season the stat sheets don't lie. I wouldn't ignore @JaCrispyI'll just remind he how special Knox ended up being. Or vice verse and then I'll take my lumps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said: Reminds me of Johnny Manziel That was also the first thing that popped into my head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extrahammer Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 So Knox drops two passes in practice and suddenly he's not any good anymore? Come on folks... 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, BillsSbSoon said: Cautiously optimistic about aj. We heard the same thing in camp last year too. I remember a lot of "hope of improvement" talk but not so much proof. Seems different this year. It's a big season for him and he looks prepared for it. He has to step up and he knows it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, The Wiz said: I don't see how it's an over-reaction. He came in to play the slot position and had been to one training camp practice. Right now he's losing ground to mckittrick (is that still a thing?) And Shakir is getting his reps and all signs point to him doing well so far. Also has a player ever been IR'd because they are sore? Seriously asking. So you didn’t look at his contract? That would tell you why it’s an overreaction to say he’s gonna be cut. I agree he losing ground to lil dirty and shakir. But he’s not getting cut unless he’s a net negative to the team. As for players IRd for soreness see hodgins and Stephenson. It’s a thing we sorta do with WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 https://billswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/29/buffalo-bills-micah-hyde-limp-injured-training-camp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigDingus Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 "The Bills were missing four of their projected five starters on the offensive line" This is a bummer. Really was hoping it wouldn't be musical chairs this season for once. I know it's still early, but was very hopeful there'd be an established unit that had time to gel in the off season, all set & ready to go for week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, BigDingus said: "The Bills were missing four of their projected five starters on the offensive line" This is a bummer. Really was hoping it wouldn't be musical chairs this season for once. I know it's still early, but was very hopeful there'd be an established unit that had time to gel in the off season, all set & ready to go for week 1. Week 1...we must be patient Dingus. If this is still the case in 2 weeks...then let us run together in circles as the sky will certainly be falling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I remember a lot of "hope of improvement" talk but not so much proof. Seems different this year. It's a big season for him and he looks prepared for it. He has to step up and he knows it. There were guys saying they were really impressed with aj last year. Hughes in particular thought he was ready to break out. Hopefully this is the year we need him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 37 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: So you didn’t look at his contract? That would tell you why it’s an overreaction to say he’s gonna be cut. I agree he losing ground to lil dirty and shakir. But he’s not getting cut unless he’s a net negative to the team. As for players IRd for soreness see hodgins and Stephenson. It’s a thing we sorta do with WR His contract doesn't matter. OJ Howard is worse and haven't heard lick about him so far. Stevenson and hodgins go to PS. Howard and Crowder don't. That's why they keep those two around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Man, from day one Jordan has loved this team and city. I truly hope he has a career year this coming season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, BigDingus said: "The Bills were missing four of their projected five starters on the offensive line" This is a bummer. Really was hoping it wouldn't be musical chairs this season for once. I know it's still early, but was very hopeful there'd be an established unit that had time to gel in the off season, all set & ready to go for week 1. Better now than later. I'm not opposed to increased reps for the backups during the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Cant have Knox play too well or we wont be able to afford him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: He’s almost 8 months out… I have no doubt he’s doing cutting and change of direction drills in his training regiment. regimen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, SCBills said: I don't know if I agree with it being a scheme issue. It's really hard, in todays NFL, to have a clutch/dominant Defense - especially against elite QB's - without a reliable pass rush. Replace Hughes or Addison with Von last year and we are the reigning Super Bowl Champions. That Defense, even without Tre, isn't getting torched by Mahomes evading pressure all day. Our coverage schemes and execution are extremely good but McFrazier are risk averse when it comes to scheming pressure packages and have been since they arrived. That’s my point about scheme hindering potential dominance. 6 hours ago, Jauronimo said: This year will be the test. We have a legit pass rushing DE, a solid interior rusher in Oliver, and maybe we have something in AJ or Rousseau. This D should be scary in obvious passing situations. Needless to say, I hope you’re right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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