Doc Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It was very unsportsmanlike of Gronkowski but the exaggeration and wailing by thin-skinned, Patriot-weary Bills fans was 100% about the disrespect. Much more dangerous collisions happen on the field of play all the time. The nonsense about the hit potentially hurting White is ridiculous. Tre White is a f*cking yoked up beast not some 100 pound weakling. Pushing him in the back from behind while he was standing up would look much less disrespectful but be more likely to injure a player than piling on him at shoulder level when he's flat on the ground and his body can't move far. Anyone with the basic awareness that comes from having played contact sports knows this is correct. This is laugh out loud silly. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Has Gronk un-retired yet? Too soon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It was very unsportsmanlike of Gronkowski but the exaggeration and wailing by thin-skinned, Patriot-weary Bills fans was 100% about the disrespect. Much more dangerous collisions happen on the field of play all the time. The nonsense about the hit potentially hurting White is ridiculous. Tre White is a f*cking yoked up beast not some 100 pound weakling. Pushing him in the back from behind while he was standing up would look much less disrespectful but be more likely to injure a player than piling on him at shoulder level when he's flat on the ground and his body can't move far. Anyone with the basic awareness that comes from having played contact sports knows this is correct. So, slamming someone into an immovable object (the ground) is less likely to hurt them than hitting them when they are free to move with the strike? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Gronk committed an assault on White and never did any jail time. Lucky he didn’t paralyze him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: So, slamming someone into an immovable object (the ground) is less likely to hurt them than hitting them when they are free to move with the strike? The greatest risk of injury in this type of collision between two very strong individuals is by hyperextension.........so exactly that, yes. The ground prevents the whiplash effect. And any grown man should know instinctively that hitting someone in the chest or shoulder area in a fight is a wasted punch. And that's effectively what Gronk did.......he drove a forearm into his fully padded upper back/shoulder area. He'd have been more likely to hurt him striking him below the pads. Why people think that there was any notable degree of likelihood that White was going to be injured there just shows how little they know about contact sports. Some of you watch too much wrasslin' if you think that hit was incredibly dangerous. Incredibly disrespectful yes..........likely to cause paralysis.......gimme a f*cking break. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: The greatest risk of injury in this type of collision between two very strong individuals is by hyperextension.........so exactly that, yes. The ground prevents the whiplash effect. And any grown man should know instinctively that hitting someone in the chest or shoulder area in a fight is a wasted punch. And that's effectively what Gronk did.......he drove a forearm into his fully padded upper back/shoulder area. He'd have been more likely to hurt him striking him below the pads. Why people think that there was any notable degree of likelihood that White was going to be injured there just shows how little they know about contact sports. Some of you watch too much wrasslin' if you think that hit was incredibly dangerous. Incredibly disrespectful yes..........likely to cause paralysis.......gimme a f*cking break. Just stop. It's embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: Just stop. It's embarrassing. You really don't like having your attempts to troll ignored, do you? "Embarrassing" is something like the opioid crisis in America and the role of anesthesiologists in creating it. An explained opinion about the biomechanics of a hit after the whistle in a football game.....that resulted in no injury......meh.....not embarrassing. Should I expand? Or is your appetite for discussion sated, Doc? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: The greatest risk of injury in this type of collision between two very strong individuals is by hyperextension.........so exactly that, yes. The ground prevents the whiplash effect. And any grown man should know instinctively that hitting someone in the chest or shoulder area in a fight is a wasted punch. And that's effectively what Gronk did.......he drove a forearm into his fully padded upper back/shoulder area. He'd have been more likely to hurt him striking him below the pads. Why people think that there was any notable degree of likelihood that White was going to be injured there just shows how little they know about contact sports. Some of you watch too much wrasslin' if you think that hit was incredibly dangerous. Incredibly disrespectful yes..........likely to cause paralysis.......gimme a f*cking break. You seem to know alot about contact sports. Have you ever played any contact sports ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: You really don't like having your attempts to troll ignored, do you? "Embarrassing" is something like the opioid crisis in America and the role of anesthesiologists in creating it. An explained opinion about the biomechanics of a hit after the whistle in a football game.....that resulted in no injury......meh.....not embarrassing. Should I expand? Or is your appetite for discussion sated, Doc? The only one trolling is you, BADOL. What Goonk did was assault, plain and simple. But since he's a good football player and a goofball, people laughably try to explain it away as being "unsportsmanlike" or "just boys being boys." But I guess you forgot that Tre in fact got a concussion from his criminal actions. Both are lucky it wasn't worse because it obviously wasn't just being pushed in the shoulder or back area. As for anesthesiologists having any hand in the opioid epidemic, LOL! Nice try at the personal dig. Non-pain management anesthesiologists (like myself) don't prescribe, much less administer, opioids to people once they leave the hospital or surgery center. And pain anesthesiologists typically see after they're already hooked. And no one is forcing people to take opioids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: The only one trolling is you, BADOL. What Goonk did was assault, plain and simple. But since he's a good football player and a goofball, people laughably try to explain it away as being "unsportsmanlike" or "just boys being boys." But I guess you forgot that Tre in fact got a concussion from his criminal actions. Both are lucky it wasn't worse because it obviously wasn't just being pushed in the shoulder or back area. As for anesthesiologists having any hand in the opioid epidemic, LOL! Nice try at the personal dig. Non-pain management anesthesiologists (like myself) don't prescribe, much less administer, opioids to people once they leave the hospital or surgery center. And pain anesthesiologists typically see after they're already hooked. And no one is forcing people to take opioids. Seems I "struck a nerve". White went into concussion protocol and once the suspension was announced he was taken out of it. Never missed a snap. You can ask him on twitter if he calls that a concussion or just a precautionary move (with no intent to influence the punishment, of course). And that's great news that the medical profession is off the hook for the opioid crisis..........I wasn't aware that no one was forcing people to take opioids. I guess we're "not embarrassed" buddies now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Seems I "struck a nerve". White went into concussion protocol and once the suspension was announced he was taken out of it. Never missed a snap. You can ask him on twitter if he calls that a concussion or just a precautionary move (with no intent to influence the punishment, of course). And that's great news that the medical profession is off the hook for the opioid crisis..........I wasn't aware that no one was forcing people to take opioids. I guess we're "not embarrassed" buddies now. I was never embarrassed because, again, I had nothing to do with the opioid crisis. And the only "nerve" you struck was your cavalier attitude to what Goonk did to Tre. If you were lying face down and someone who was 75# heavier than you bashed a braced forearm into the back of your neck, you wouldn't be laughing-it-off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I was never embarrassed because, again, I had nothing to do with the opioid crisis. And the only "nerve" you struck was your cavalier attitude to what Goonk did to Tre. If you were lying face down and someone who was 75# heavier than you bashed a braced forearm into the back of your neck, you wouldn't be laughing-it-off. You are a narcissist who wants people to call him "Doc" even when you are away from the job. People "like" you prescribe opioids to people who think that title means they always have the best interest if the patient in mind. Dismissing that accountability by saying that nobody is "forcing" people to take them is incredibly cavalier of you. An embarrassing statement, IMO. As for your description of what happened you missed the full pads and helmet aspect. Which is not in the least a small part of it. Without those it's a much different injury potential, the most likely of which are facial. With White's arms and the ball underneath him it was a downhill trajectory and Gronk slid right over top of him.......as the helmet is designed to do. The equipment factor matters A LOT. And no, I wouldn't be laughing it off........but I wouldn't have been anymore hurt than White........I would be telling the guy that if he can hit me high(a penalty), I can hit him low(legal). Had to do that once to a guy who flat out punched me under the chin at the LOS when I was a gunner on a punt and talked sh*t like he'd done something that was part of the game. Should have heard him b*tch and moan(and cry) after I ended his football(and subsequent basketball) season. I injured him again(inadvertently) the next basketball season when he tried to jump over me for a totally uncatchable errant pass on the sideline Poor gimpy bastard. Sean something. The football injury looked something like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: You are a narcissist who wants people to call him "Doc" even when you are away from the job. People "like" you prescribe opioids to people who think that title means they always have the best interest if the patient in mind. Dismissing that accountability by saying that nobody is "forcing" people to take them is incredibly cavalier of you. An embarrassing statement, IMO. As for your description of what happened you missed the full pads and helmet aspect. Which is not in the least a small part of it. Without those it's a much different injury potential, the most likely of which are facial. With White's arms and the ball underneath him it was a downhill trajectory and Gronk slid right over top of him.......as the helmet is designed to do. The equipment factor matters A LOT. And no, I wouldn't be laughing it off........but I wouldn't have been anymore hurt than White........I would be telling the guy that if he can hit me high(a penalty), I can hit him low(legal). Had to do that once to a guy who flat out punched me under the chin at the LOS when I was a gunner on a punt and talked sh*t like he'd done something that was part of the game. Should have heard him b*tch and moan(and cry) after I ended his football(and subsequent basketball) season. I injured him again(inadvertently) the next basketball season when he tried to jump over me for a totally uncatchable errant pass on the sideline Poor gimpy bastard. Sean something. The football injury looked something like this: Oh, that's rich coming from you. If we were to do a poll on the most narcissistic poster here on the board, guess who would win hands down (now that DC Tom is gone, although I know he's a genius and has some claim to it)? As for the non-sequitur ad hominen tripe, you know nothing about me, much less what I expect people to call me either at work or away from it. Great powers of deduction based on my handle here, which is the only place on the internet I use it (and if you must know, it evolved from an inside joke when I first stated using the usenet newsgroups back in 1994 and continued in how I was addressing myself on the old Buffalo Bills mailing list, from which this site was an offshoot). And it's apparent you don't remember the hit much. You didn't know Tre got a concussion ("no injury"). And now you're claiming that he was wearing body armor or something. No, all he had on was his uniform and a helmet. And no, Goonk didn't "slide over him;" he sized-him-up (after Tre did to him what he does to others by manhandling him out of a play, leading to an INT, and Goonk got all embarrassed) and dove on top of him, shoving his braced arm into the back of his neck. I put that in the same category as Haynesworthy kicking off Andre Gurode's helmet and stepping on his head. Edited June 26, 2022 by Doc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Doc said: Oh, that's rich coming from you. If we were to do a poll on the most narcissistic poster here on the board, guess who would win hands down (now that DC Tom is gone, although I know he's a genius and has some claim to it)? As for the non-sequitur ad hominen tripe, you know nothing about me, much less what I expect people to call me either at work or away from it. Great powers of deduction based on my handle here, which is the only place on the internet I use it (and if you must know, it evolved from an inside joke when I first stated using the usenet newsgroups back in 1994 and how I was addressing myself with the old Buffalo Bills mailing list, from which this site was an offshoot). And it's apparent you don't remember the hit much. You didn't know Tre got a concussion ("no injury"). And now you're claiming that he was wearing body armor or something. No, all he had on was his uniform and a helmet. Goonk sized-him-up (after Tre did to him what he does to others by manhandling him out of a play, leading to an INT, and Goonk got all embarrassed) and dove on top of him, shoving his braced arm into the back of his neck. I put that in the same category as Haynesworthy kicking off Andre Gurode's helmet and stepping on his head. You immediately going to the "no one is forcing people to take opioids" defense with nary-a-caveat spoke volumes about your narcissism, doctor. And the only reason I've known the origin of your name is because you've answered the question on here why you go by "Doc" as because you are an anesthesiologist multiple times. Nothing about "inside jokes" until you get called out for feeling a little self important. Funny how you have a lot of short posts when you are trolling on TSW but when YOU get personally critiqued for a change you start expanding. Your insistence that White wasn't wearing pads on the play where Gronk hit him in the pads and helmet is a good example of why you should probably stick with the more-is-less based approach to posting. White wears a significant amount of pads for a defensive back. The huge shoulder pads and full back cover have always been a signature of his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Doc said: Oh, that's rich coming from you. If we were to do a poll on the most narcissistic poster here on the board, guess who would win hands down (now that DC Tom is gone, although I know he's a genius and has some claim to it)? You two should do a virtual hand shake. The truth is if this "poll" was to include questions on who the best and most knowledgeable posters are, both of you would be right at or around the top. The 2 of you are a VERY big part of what makes this board so good. Sorry to butt in as a self appointed mediator here lol. Jmo. Edited June 26, 2022 by Bill from NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: You two should do a virtual hand shake. The truth is if this "poll" was to include questions on who the best and most knowledgeable posters, both of you would be right at or around the top. The 2 of you are a VERY big part of what makes this board so good. Sorry to butt in as a self appointed mediator here lol. Jmo. Doc and I never agree on anything and since I've almost always been proven right he is compelled to troll my takes with fact-less, detail-free snark. Bottom line with Gronk is that it was a dirty, unsportsmanlike thing to do. Anyone who has played a lot of competitive sports has likely been cheap shotted. Maybe by friends even. Gronk gave a sincere apology, he was suspended, White missed ZERO time. The Bills have since tried to acquire Gronk. Facts. The Gronkowski family and their G&G Fitness business have been a fixture here in WNY for a long time. He's not some random dude who is unrelatable, his career success should be a point of pride(and is) to a lot of WNY'ers. It's a shame he was never a Bill, if only for the fact that we've basically never had anything close to an All Pro TE let alone arguably the greatest ever. Edited June 26, 2022 by BADOLBILZ 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Gee, sounds familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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muppy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/25/2022 at 1:25 PM, BADOLBILZ said: The greatest risk of injury in this type of collision between two very strong individuals is by hyperextension.........so exactly that, yes. The ground prevents the whiplash effect. And any grown man should know instinctively that hitting someone in the chest or shoulder area in a fight is a wasted punch. And that's effectively what Gronk did.......he drove a forearm into his fully padded upper back/shoulder area. He'd have been more likely to hurt him striking him below the pads. Why people think that there was any notable degree of likelihood that White was going to be injured there just shows how little they know about contact sports. Some of you watch too much wrasslin' if you think that hit was incredibly dangerous. Incredibly disrespectful yes..........likely to cause paralysis.......gimme a f*cking break. I happen to have a wedge fracture in my L-4 in my back due to a hard fall. If you think a fortified forearm shiver to the back of someones head couldn't do some damage Im sorry dude you are straight up wrong. Could have seriously damaged tre and your insistence otherwise is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 They literally do. They say "Don't eat me Gronk!" and also "Tony Gonzalez was a better TE." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Doc and I never agree on anything and since I've almost always been proven right he is compelled to troll my takes with fact-less, detail-free snark. Bottom line with Gronk is that it was a dirty, unsportsmanlike thing to do. Anyone who has played a lot of competitive sports has likely been cheap shotted. Maybe by friends even. Gronk gave a sincere apology, he was suspended, White missed ZERO time. The Bills have since tried to acquire Gronk. Facts. The Gronkowski family and their G&G Fitness business have been a fixture here in WNY for a long time. He's not some random dude who is unrelatable, his career success should be a point of pride(and is) to a lot of WNY'ers. It's a shame he was never a Bill, if only for the fact that we've basically never had anything close to an All Pro TE let alone arguably the greatest ever. I thought his apology was terribly insincere. He spent more time bitching about holding and calls that went against him. Including a 7 year long complaint. Edited June 27, 2022 by Jauronimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: I thought his apology was terribly insincere. He spent more time bitching about holding and calls that went against him. Including a 7 year long complaint. "I want to apologize to No. 27," Gronkowski said. "I'm not in the business of that. I mean, there was a lot of frustration and I was just really frustrated at that moment and it just happened naturally through emotions. ... I just want to apologize to Tre'Davious White." I guess he forgot the part about apologizing for winning the game and dominating incompetently run Bills teams for his entire career? There was no apology that was going to satisfy some fans. Him expanding on his officiating complaint after he was asked about it is a separate issue from the apology. And he wasn't wrong about it being PI.......he got mugged by White. 4 hours ago, muppy said: I happen to have a wedge fracture in my L-4 in my back due to a hard fall. If you think a fortified forearm shiver to the back of someones head couldn't do some damage Im sorry dude you are straight up wrong. Could have seriously damaged tre and your insistence otherwise is a joke. Is this a joke? Aren't you a 60-70 year old woman? Older women break bones just A LOTTA bit easier than early 20's male professional athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: "I want to apologize to No. 27," Gronkowski said. "I'm not in the business of that. I mean, there was a lot of frustration and I was just really frustrated at that moment and it just happened naturally through emotions. ... I just want to apologize to Tre'Davious White." I guess he forgot the part about apologizing for winning the game and dominating incompetently run Bills teams for his entire career? There was no apology that was going to satisfy some fans. Him expanding on his officiating complaint after he was asked about it is a separate issue from the apology. And he wasn't wrong about it being PI.......he got mugged by White. Oh really? Where was the flag (much less the admission by the NFL that he did)? No surprise though. Consistency has never been your strong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 3:30 PM, BADOLBILZ said: "I want to apologize to No. 27," Gronkowski said. "I'm not in the business of that. I mean, there was a lot of frustration and I was just really frustrated at that moment and it just happened naturally through emotions. ... I just want to apologize to Tre'Davious White." I guess he forgot the part about apologizing for winning the game and dominating incompetently run Bills teams for his entire career? There was no apology that was going to satisfy some fans. Him expanding on his officiating complaint after he was asked about it is a separate issue from the apology. And he wasn't wrong about it being PI.......he got mugged by White. Is this a joke? Aren't you a 60-70 year old woman? Older women break bones just A LOTTA bit easier than early 20's male professional athletes. Oh for ***** sake. When you make an excuse for your bad actions along with a so called apology then you aren't really apologizing. I could say that you should shut up while you are ahead but you aren't ahead. You are behind and should shut up on this subject because you aren't doing yourself any good. Your personal slams on Doc are really uncalled for but maybe you should explain to all of us why sharpened steel spikes are better because they make a cleaner cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) On 6/21/2022 at 10:16 PM, Nextmanup said: He's--by a wide margin--the best pass catching TE the league has ever seen. You won't get many here to agree with me on that, but so what? It's still true. Antonio Gates & Tony Gonzalez were more superior pass catchers than Gronk. Travis Kelce when it’s all said & done will surpass Gronk as well and already has more career yards than him. Edit: Actually they’re pretty much even. Gronk is a HOFer for sure, but no where near the best. I’d put him at the Jason Witten tier. These are just names off the top of my head. I’m not old enough to have seen Kellen Winslow SR play, but I’m sure he’s up there as well. Edited June 28, 2022 by ChronicAndKnuckles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 17 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Oh for ***** sake. When you make an excuse for your bad actions along with a so called apology then you aren't really apologizing. I could say that you should shut up while you are ahead but you aren't ahead. You are behind and should shut up on this subject because you aren't doing yourself any good. Your personal slams on Doc are really uncalled for but maybe you should explain to all of us why sharpened steel spikes are better because they make a cleaner cut. There is a difference between an excuse and an explanation. He explained why he did what he did; he never offered an excuse. He owned his actions and he apologized. I'm not sure what more people wanted out of the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: There is a difference between an excuse and an explanation. He explained why he did what he did; he never offered an excuse. He owned his actions and he apologized. I'm not sure what more people wanted out of the guy. Maybe, not be a DB and try to break someone’s neck? 🤷♂️ Dude is a poor sport wine a$$ just like his BF Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Maybe, not be a DB and try to break someone’s neck? 🤷♂️ Dude is a poor sport wine a$$ just like his BF Brady. And if a Buffalo Bill did the very same thing to Tom Brady, Bills Mafia would donate $2 million to the Bills player's charity and throw him a parade. Edited June 29, 2022 by Gugny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: And if a Buffalo Bill did the very same thing to Tom Brady, Bills Mafia would donate $2 million to the Bills player's charity and throw him a parade. Why be a Bills fan if you don’t agree with the perceived what if actions a Bills fan would make? Your fanhood is suspect IMHO. On a separate note, how many times has TW been suspended for cheating or throw temper tantrums when they don’t get a call, or not shake opponents hands after a game? There’s a reason fans don’t like TB and the Pats, and it’s not just because they were a dynasty. Edited June 29, 2022 by TheWeatherMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Why be a Bills fan if you don’t agree with the perceived what if actions a Bills fan would make? Your fanhood is suspect IMHO. On a separate note, how many times has TW been suspended for cheating or throw temper tantrums when they don’t get a call, or not shake opponents hands after a game? There’s a reason fans don’t like TB and the Pats, and it’s not just because they were a dynasty. Tom Brady was and still is the Bills' daddy. Again ... if he was our QB for the past 20 years, Bills fans would love him and defend him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Again ... if he was our QB for the past 20 years, Bills fans would love him and defend him. I don't know how anyone could ever dispute this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: Tom Brady was and still is the Bills' daddy. Again ... if he was our QB for the past 20 years, Bills fans would love him and defend him. I’m not disputing Tom Brady’s greatness, I’m just saying he and his BF Gronk are the loveliest couple of DB’s I’ve seen play the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, TheWeatherMan said: I’m not disputing Tom Brady’s greatness, I’m just saying he and his BF Gronk are the loveliest couple of DB’s I’ve seen play the game. And I'm respectfully disagreeing with you. Gronk has played for over a decade and, other than the hit on White - which I agree was horrible - he has been as clean a player as you can find in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Gronk has retired twice so far. No reason not to expect another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Gugny said: And I'm respectfully disagreeing with you. Gronk has played for over a decade and, other than the hit on White - which I agree was horrible - he has been as clean a player as you can find in the league. Does Gronk have a special ballwash soap that he prefers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 He’s not really retiring anyway. I’ll bet again by week 3 with GB, or 4 with KC, or if he really wants to hang the Rams in week 9 through the Playoffs. He gets to skip the OTA’s, Camp, a couple of creampuff games and then ping, pang , pow Brady miraculously convinces Gronk to jump back into a Bucs uni. Id lay $ he jumps back in the game if he thinks he can go on another playoff run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 4 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Does Gronk have a special ballwash soap that he prefers? Bless your little heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 🤔 Is there a chance that after the midway point of the season if a team such as the Bucs or say the Bills are making a dominating SB run & say a player would get hurt at the same position that Gronk plays . Would he un retire for another SB ? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, T master said: 🤔 Is there a chance that after the midway point of the season if a team such as the Bucs or say the Bills are making a dominating SB run & say a player would get hurt at the same position that Gronk plays . Would he un retire for another SB ? 🤔 I believe he's already preparing to come back to TB. I don't think it makes sense to go to another team/QB/system midway through the season. He's familiar enough with TB's offense and especially Brady to jump right in and contribute 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 17 hours ago, T master said: 🤔 Is there a chance that after the midway point of the season if a team such as the Bucs or say the Bills are making a dominating SB run & say a player would get hurt at the same position that Gronk plays . Would he un retire for another SB ? 🤔 15 hours ago, The Dean said: I believe he's already preparing to come back to TB. I don't think it makes sense to go to another team/QB/system midway through the season. He's familiar enough with TB's offense and especially Brady to jump right in and contribute Agreed. If he comes back, I think it would only be to play for the Bucs. If they're in contention midway through the season (as long as Brady is healthy, they well be), I think it's all but guaranteed that he'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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