Breece Hall Please!!

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Lame. Brandon Beane gunna Brandon Beane. 

You mean be a top NFL GM on a team that is top 5 in the league

 

Dude.......

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

if i missed it in the last 10 pages... in your opinion whos a back worth drafting this year and at what round? Devin on a contract year, could see him having a nice year behind our line, and leaving on a payday... have to add someone id think???

I think Hall and Walker are worthy of late first rd picks….but they are a value mid rd 2.   

james cook would be my guy if he was there in rd 3.  Def a chance he’s gone before we pick rd 3, but could last til rd 4.  Dalvins brother, great receiver and change of pace back.  He’s smaller and will never be a bell cow.  Best case for him, imo, is a McKissic with home run ability.  Gio Bernard type. 

 

isaiah spiller, imo, is a 3rd rd guy but might

go rd 2.  Lacks polished receiving skills. I don’t think he’s a fit with us. 

rachad white would be great value in rd 4, but I think he goes rd 3.  One of the best receiving backs in the draft, maybe the best.  Lanky upright runner. Lacks power and has never really been asked to pass block.  That could prevent him from becoming a bill, but I think we’d be interested due to his hands.  
 

kyren Williams could be a could fit if he’s there in rd 4, but he’ll probably go sooner.  His 40, I forgot what it was, was terrible.  He’s in the ekeler mode.  Good receiver and burst but fumbles and has no power.   
 

I like Dameon Pierces toughness.  
 

jerome Ford offers some receiving potential late in the draft. 

 

Wanted to get a little more in depth but ran out of time, husband duties calling.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2022 by NewEra

[OldTimer1960]

If there were no other significant needs on this team, I could get behind drafting a RB in the first or second, but that is not the case this year.  
 

Singletary is fine as a main back, Duke Johnson is an attempt to fill the specialist role of 3rd down back.  While this team needs a corner who can star/play significant snaps early in the season in case Tre White isn’t ready.  Ideally, they would ink a vet to fill that role, but they look to be out of cap space.

 

They need another WR that can challenge McKenzie in the slot and in case Gabe Davis isn’t as good as he has looked so far.  There is no solution at WR on the roster beyond those 3.

 

OG is a long-standing problem and moves even higher in the needs list if they lose Bates as a FA.  Even with Bates returning, this is a big need area.  I’ve been a Cody Ford apologist, but even I am ready to admit that he is a long-shot to be an answer for this team.

[GreggTX]

I'd be fine taking a RB in this draft after we draft a CB and a RG. We do need better depth. I'm not at all enamored with anyone in our RB room after Singletary. We're in trouble if he goes down or we can't fix the right side of our OL.

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

If he's there in the 2nd after taking a cb in the first, I would be okay with it. He has the  explosiveness that we lack at running back.

[Solomon Grundy]

Iowa State Pro Day is today. Wonder if Breece will run routes to show his receiving skills? 

[CapeBreton]

I had seen Breece Hall being mocked to the Bucs in the first round but they just re-signed Leonard Fournette so I'd say they're out of drafting RB early. 

[BillsFanForever19]

Daniel Jeremiah's new NFL.com Mock Draft was posted today. And apparently, he's been hanging out with @IronMaidenBills

 

"Pick 25 Buffalo Bills - Breece Hall, Iowa State RB Junior

 

The Bills are poised to make a Super Bowl run, and Hall could be the finishing touch on offense."

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2022-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-packers-nab-2-receivers-in-round-1-after

 

[John from Riverside]

14 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Daniel Jeremiah's new NFL.com Mock Draft was posted today. And apparently, he's been hanging out with @IronMaidenBills

 

"Pick 25 Buffalo Bills - Breece Hall, Iowa State RB Junior

 

The Bills are poised to make a Super Bowl run, and Hall could be the finishing touch on offense."

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2022-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-packers-nab-2-receivers-in-round-1-after

 

Just give me Bates back and a veteran corner if we are going to do that at 25 please

[NewEra]

17 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Daniel Jeremiah's new NFL.com Mock Draft was posted today. And apparently, he's been hanging out with @IronMaidenBills

 

"Pick 25 Buffalo Bills - Breece Hall, Iowa State RB Junior

 

The Bills are poised to make a Super Bowl run, and Hall could be the finishing touch on offense."

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2022-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-packers-nab-2-receivers-in-round-1-after

 

He could be the finishing touch, depending on what we do @ RG and Spencer Browns potential improvements 

[Motor26]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He could be the finishing touch, depending on what we do @ RG and Spencer Browns potential improvements 

The value isn’t there in the first round. I doubt Hall gets selected in the first for that reason. 1st round should be spent on premium positions, CB, Edge rusher, OT, maybe WR. 

[Magnum Force]

26 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Daniel Jeremiah's new NFL.com Mock Draft was posted today. And apparently, he's been hanging out with @IronMaidenBills

 

"Pick 25 Buffalo Bills - Breece Hall, Iowa State RB Junior

 

The Bills are poised to make a Super Bowl run, and Hall could be the finishing touch on offense."

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jeremiah-2022-nfl-mock-draft-3-0-packers-nab-2-receivers-in-round-1-after

 

Classic post lol Jeremiah and Maiden … Football’s new dynamic duo 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

The value isn’t there in the first round. I doubt Hall gets selected in the first for that reason. 1st round should be spent on premium positions, CB, Edge rusher, OT, maybe WR. 

I know.  I’ve stated that over a hundred times in this thread 😃 

 

but if Beane thinks he’s the guy for us and we can replace RG and CB properly in the other rounds of the draft or a vet FA ring chaser…..he could be the finishing touch.  
 

if he’s not gonna be a 1st rd pick we could conceivably trade down and draft a Rb, CB, OG and WR in the first 3 rounds.  
 

I prefer we didn’t…..but our team is good enough where the draft shouldn’t make or break our super bowl chances.  

[Motor26]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I know.  I’ve stated that over a hundred times in this thread 😃 

 

but if Beane thinks he’s the guy for us and we can replace RG and CB properly in the other rounds of the draft or a vet FA ring chaser…..he could be the finishing touch.  
 

if he’s not gonna be a 1st rd pick we could conceivably trade down and draft a Rb, CB, OG and WR in the first 3 rounds.  
 

I prefer we didn’t…..but our team is good enough where the draft shouldn’t make or break our super bowl chances.  

Lol sorry, I haven’t really visited this thread that much. I wouldn’t be against a trade down, but want them to stay in the 1st for that 5th year option. This draft should be really interesting if Beane brings back Bates and signs a vet CB. Could go many ways. 

[Milanos Milano]

I highly doubt we take him, but I can dream I guess. 

[Magnum Force]

27 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I highly doubt we take him, but I can dream I guess. 

We were possibly taking Etienne last year… it isn’t that far fetched.  If Beane likes a player, he will draft him.  In the case of Etienne if it was true… he didn’t follow up by taking another running back but Rousseau and then Basham… so it’s how he grades a player out and their value at that pick. 

[Milanos Milano]

8 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

We were possibly taking Etienne last year… it isn’t that far fetched.  If Beane likes a player, he will draft him.  In the case of Etienne if it was true… he didn’t follow up by taking another running back but Rousseau and then Basham… so it’s how he grades a player out and their value at that pick. 

 

This is the one thing that gives me hope that we might take Breece. If we were serious about taking Etienne then I don’t see how we aren’t serious about Breece considering he is just as good if not better than Etienne. 

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

On 3/17/2022 at 12:55 AM, IronMaidenBills said:

4.39   40.   6’ 1” 217lbs.  A faster and bigger Marshawn Lynch.  Breece can run, catch, and block. He has 2 seasons with over 1,400 yards rushing. Out of all the running backs this year, he is the one I want the most. I really hope we can finally get a star RB to compliment Allen. I would roll with Breece and Singletary. 

I agree with you some fans think that Josh has a magical arm and can throw in any conditions but I remember the colts and patriots games in Buffalo were the weather was so bad no Qb could throw but all the colts and patriots did was run the ball and we became the laughing stocks of the league because we could not stop the run.  Buffalo needs that back that puts fears in teams who try to run cover 2 all the time.

[Milanos Milano]

1 hour ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

I agree with you some fans think that Josh has a magical arm and can throw in any conditions but I remember the colts and patriots games in Buffalo were the weather was so bad no Qb could throw but all the colts and patriots did was run the ball and we became the laughing stocks of the league because we could not stop the run.  Buffalo needs that back that puts fears in teams who try to run cover 2 all the time.

Agreed. It’s a good strategic counter balance. Plus Breece would make Allen even more deadly. Teams have to totally game plan around both which makes it nearly impossible. Just thinking about it gets me excited. 

[muppy]

holy cow when I read this Breece Hall is compared as a 

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4.39   40.   6’ 1” 217lbs.  A faster and bigger Marshawn Lynch. 

schwinggg Goodness gracious all in YES. now THAT guy was a legend and a force in the NFL  heck yeahhhh I would love a guy like that in a bills uniform.  Wether or not the Bills pull the trigger on him ....another team picks him maybe u just never know come NFL draft first round day.

 

On a sidenote reading how Von Miller had expected to have been drafted by Buffalo but NOPE Denver swooped in and grabbed him up before the Bills could...Not THAT has come full circle eh mateys? HA!

 

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@IronMaidenBills

Edited March 23, 2022 by muppy

[newcam2012]

On 3/21/2022 at 3:20 PM, OldTimer1960 said:

If there were no other significant needs on this team, I could get behind drafting a RB in the first or second, but that is not the case this year.  
 

Singletary is fine as a main back, Duke Johnson is an attempt to fill the specialist role of 3rd down back.  While this team needs a corner who can star/play significant snaps early in the season in case Tre White isn’t ready.  Ideally, they would ink a vet to fill that role, but they look to be out of cap space.

 

They need another WR that can challenge McKenzie in the slot and in case Gabe Davis isn’t as good as he has looked so far.  There is no solution at WR on the roster beyond those 3.

 

OG is a long-standing problem and moves even higher in the needs list if they lose Bates as a FA.  Even with Bates returning, this is a big need area.  I’ve been a Cody Ford apologist, but even I am ready to admit that he is a long-shot to be an answer for this team.

Nice breakdown. The RB pick in the first round would be very I'll advised. I think the Bill's front office is too smart to make such an error. 

[DCofNC]

I like what I see in that he appears to actually have vision, that’s awesome.  I don’t see a super physical runner, especially for his size.  He bounces a lot to the outside.  Hands look good, has some shiftiness to him.   Trying to think of a guy to compare him to and all I come up with is Melvin Ingram III, which isn’t enough for me.   Ok if he’s there in the second, but I’m not burning a first on him.  He’s a little like Henry coming out, that worked out, but he struggled early.  

[Milanos Milano]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

holy cow when I read this Breece Hall is compared as a 

schwinggg Goodness gracious all in YES. now THAT guy was a legend and a force in the NFL  heck yeahhhh I would love a guy like that in a bills uniform.  Wether or not the Bills pull the trigger on him ....another team picks him maybe u just never know come NFL draft first round day.

 

On a sidenote reading how Von Miller had expected to have been drafted by Buffalo but NOPE Denver swooped in and grabbed him up before the Bills could...Not THAT has come full circle eh mateys? HA!

 

m

 

@IronMaidenBills

Breece Hall is a speeding bowling ball with a nasty spin move, like epically good. Makes phenomenal catches, and is abusive on the goal line exactly like Jonathan Taylor. A total complete RB. Even if we don’t take him, I will be rooting for him whoever gets the honor of obtaining his talents. 

[Magnum Force]

Just like I felt Allen had a chance to be special pre draft when many pointed to his completion % as a red flag … I feel the same way about Breece Hall in this offense.  Yes we do need a CB… it’s a given.. yes we need OLine depth and a potential long term starter… WR is not a need but a luxury pick early for this year.  The likelihood Breece Hall will be there at pick 57 are slim… there is a better chance that one of Elam, Gordon, McCreary, Woolen, Bryant or Taylor-Britt will be.  

[NewEra]

55 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I like what I see in that he appears to actually have vision, that’s awesome.  I don’t see a super physical runner, especially for his size.  He bounces a lot to the outside.  Hands look good, has some shiftiness to him.   Trying to think of a guy to compare him to and all I come up with is Melvin Ingram III, which isn’t enough for me.   Ok if he’s there in the second, but I’m not burning a first on him.  He’s a little like Henry coming out, that worked out, but he struggled early.  

But he’s 6’1 220 and runs a 4.39!

 

[Magnum Force]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

I like what I see in that he appears to actually have vision, that’s awesome.  I don’t see a super physical runner, especially for his size.  He bounces a lot to the outside.  Hands look good, has some shiftiness to him.   Trying to think of a guy to compare him to and all I come up with is Melvin Ingram III, which isn’t enough for me.   Ok if he’s there in the second, but I’m not burning a first on him.  He’s a little like Henry coming out, that worked out, but he struggled early.  

He won’t be there at pick 57

[Magnum Force]

A few weeks ago…there was trade rumor buzz of oft injured 16 million dollar a year RB Christian McCaffery being traded to the Bills… did you think we would get him for free?  Where there is smoke ..  there is fire.  RB is a concern

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

A few weeks ago…there was trade rumor buzz of oft injured 16 million dollar a year RB Christian McCaffery being traded to the Bills… did you think we would get him for free?  Where there is smoke ..  there is fire.  RB is a concern

What does a rumor have to do with anything?  So your saying that we’re going to draft a Rb in rd one because there was a rumor about us trading for mccaffery? Because where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

[Magnum Force]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

What does a rumor have to do with anything?  So your saying that we’re going to draft a Rb in rd one because there was a rumor about us trading for mccaffery? Because where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

Are you saying were not?

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

What does a rumor have to do with anything?  So your saying that we’re going to draft a Rb in rd one because there was a rumor about us trading for mccaffery? Because where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

I am saying RB to me is an area of weakness… CB is also an area that needs to be addressed as well as OL.. it depends on Beane’s assessment when the pick comes up.  And true they are just rumors but we wont know until the draft. 

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

Are you saying were not?

I don’t know either way.  I would think that RB will not be our choice unless:  the draft falls in a way where 6 corners, 5-6 WRs and the OL that we have rated higher, are all taken.  
 

I think there’s about a 10% chance RB is the pick.  You think RB is the pick @ 25?  Or you hope it is?

[Magnum Force]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I don’t know either way.  I would think that RB will not be our choice unless:  the draft falls in a way where 6 corners, 5-6 WRs and the OL that we have rated higher, are all taken.  
 

I think there’s about a 10% chance RB is the pick.  You think RB is the pick @ 25?  Or you hope it is?

We are both fans … and want whats best for the Bills and a Superbowl..I respect all your opinions and insights.  I enjoy the debate also … it’s all good.  I think Hall would take this offense over the top which is what we need this year.  I think a 2nd round CB could come in, play and develop .. maybe sign an aging vet like Haden, Rhodes or Peterson.  OL in the 3rd potentially WR dependent on who is there and Beanes value at that pick.  

And just for the record… I do want that Punter Matt Araiza

Edited March 23, 2022 by Magnum Force

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:

We both fans … and want whats best for the Bills and a Superbowl..I respect all your opinions and insights.  I enjoy the debate also … it’s all good.  I think Hall would take this offense over the top which is what we need this year.  I think a 2nd round CB could come in, play and develop .. maybe sign an aging vet like Haden, Rhodes or Peterson.  OL in the 3rd potentially WR dependent on who is there and Beanes value at that pick.  

And just for the record… I do want that Punter Matt Araiza

I hear ya.  In terms of team construction, it’s just not a smart move considering our QB contract.  Drafting players at premium positions that will be under contract for 5 years and playing at a high level.  Drafting another tredavious white @ 25 and having him under contract for the next 5 years would do wonders for this franchise.  Drafting a Justin Jefferson would do the same.  Drafting a Rb just doesn’t hold any long term potential.  
 

but I agree that he could take us over the top of the OL is good.  If the OL performs like they did the first 2/3 of last season, Breece hall will be completely wasted. He’s not so good where he can make a bad OL good.  

[John from Riverside]

To all the Breece Hall lovers

 

Does it bother you that most experts dont consider him a 1st round pick?

[DCofNC]

39 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

He won’t be there at pick 57

You hear that about every player, every year.  Just no saying that’s the case.

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

But he’s 6’1 220 and runs a 4.39!

 

😂 yes.  I should have been more caught up in the Underwear Olympics. 

[Magnum Force]

1 minute ago, DCofNC said:

You hear that about every player, every year.  Just no saying that’s the case.

Neither was DK Metcalf… we made the mistske of taking Cody Ford over him. 

[NewEra]

Just now, Magnum Force said:

Neither was DK Metcalf… we made the mistske of taking Cody Ford over him. 

Running backs are different.  There’s a reason the highest paid WR is getting twice as much as the highest paid RB. 
 

While the prices of all positions go up every year, the highest paid rb might actually go down over the next few years. 

[SCBills]

Seeing all these WR contracts, yea... I'm off the RD1 RB train.  

 

Take QB, OT, EDGE, WR or CB early.  We have our QB, OT and EDGE... stock up the CB/WR rooms. 

[Magnum Force]

Just now, NewEra said:

Running backs are different.  There’s a reason the highest paid WR is getting twice as much as the highest paid RB. 
 

While the prices of all positions go up every year, the highest paid rb might actually go down over the next few years. 

I just like Hall’s size, speed and pass catching ability out of the backfield… it makes our offense so much more versatile, unpredictable and explosive in all areas

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

I just like Hall’s size, speed and pass catching ability out of the backfield… it makes our offense so much more versatile, unpredictable and explosive in all areas

I agree.  It’s just not conducive with winning and building sustained dominance.  

[Magnum Force]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree.  It’s just not conducive with winning and building sustained dominance.  

Yes but neither is Von Miller… The window is open for winning a Superbowl this year… let’s take it

Edited March 23, 2022 by Magnum Force