buffaloboyinATL Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 This is going to be a feeding frenzy for teams that want a potentially elite QB. This will cause a stir in the QB market. I just wish he would end up in the NFC, which seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You don’t think he plays this year? I think there is still a civil case live and likely an adverse finding that results in an NFL suspension. Whether that is a full year or part of the year hard to say. 5 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Doesn't mean they are telling the truth either. Correct, it doesn't. And the legal position is that Watson is innocent. But I was making the point before people jump in saying "what so 10 women are all lying?" Edited March 11, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Pittsburgh all day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 My impression is that the plaintiffs were looking to score a neat civil suit "pay it to go away" day from Watsin, and once other interested parties got involved with their own selfish reasons, it spiraled out of their control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Let the bidding begin ….and let an NFC team win! We have enough good young QB’s in the AFC already! . Edited March 11, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 a Panther by Sunday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think there is still a civil case live and likely an adverse finding that results in an NFL suspension. Whether that is a full year or part of the year hard to say. Correct, it doesn't. And the legal position is that Watson is innocent. But I was making the point before people jump in saying "what so 10 women are all lying?" Exactly 22 women have accused him. Kinda doubt all of them are lying. And I'm sure there will be a civil case along with whatever the NFL does? He's not out of the woods yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly 22 women have accused him. Kinda doubt all of them are lying. And I'm sure there will be a civil case along with whatever the NFL does? He's not out of the woods yet. No, he’s certainly not out of the woods. But he’s passed an important hurdle. The funny thing is, something creepy happened, of that I’m sure. What it was exactly, I really don’t think I want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 50 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: So now this goes away quickly when he threatens to counter sue the accusers for defamation? Looks like he will be back. He can do that, if he wants to. It's a fairly standard tactic. But it's a double-edged sword. It would probably be better to settle with a non-disclosure agreement and no acknowledgement of guilt. 43 minutes ago, msw2112 said: On the criminal side, there is no financial gain for anyone. And while criminal cases are much harder to prove at trial (higher standard of proof), the standard of proof to get a grand jury indictment isn't that high. Thus, if there is no indictment, it makes me think that maybe there's not as much to this as I originally thought. The saying is "a good district attorney could persuade a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich". But if a district attorney/prosecutor does not exercise that power of persuasion, I don't think it follows that "no indictment = nothing to the case". There could be a plethora of reasons, including influence, political, evidentiary, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nedboy7 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Well we know our legal system is stellar so this isn’t surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Wonder if Grier back tracks his comment on shutting the door on a Watson trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The saying is "a good district attorney could persuade a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich". But if a district attorney/prosecutor does not exercise that power of persuasion, I don't think it follows that "no indictment = nothing to the case". There could be a plethora of reasons, including influence, political, evidentiary, etc. I agree with this, but it still makes me think that this case isn't the slam dunk it originally appeared to be. I do believe that Watson acted in an untoward way to some women, but I now don't think it's as egregious or widespread as I originally did. Plaintiffs attorneys taking advantage of the potential for great financial gain against a defendant with deep pockets is not a new thing. I say all of this with a giant disclaimer - this is only my opinion. I don't know what Watson did, what he didn't do, and if he did something, how egregious it was. The lack of a criminal indictment makes me think that the fact pattern isn't as damning to Watson as I previously believed. If the facts were extremely strong, even a poor prosecutor would have gotten a criminal indictment. To add to the comment about influence/political reasons, prosecutors and police are less inclined to stick their necks out against a high profile defendant (with a high profile lawyer) if the facts aren't air tight. Nobody likes to lose or look like they are incompetent. On the other hand, if the facts ARE air tight, prosecutors love the limelight provided by winning a high profile case. Legal careers are often made on high profile cases, and beyond legal careers there are book deals, movies, etc. That isn't going to happen here. Edited March 11, 2022 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: I thought that you could indict a ham sandwich? Only if it has cheese and hot mustard on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, TBBills said: Money wins again. how so? It was a grand jury. Only the public and public employees were present. no money involved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I still don't think this means Watson is out of the woods and still think any team that would give multiple 1st round picks for him is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Houston should at least be able to get a 2nd rounder for him now. I fully expect Miami to get him. Just as an F.U. to Flores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Houston should at least be able to get a 2nd rounder for him now. I fully expect Miami to get him. Just as an F.U. to Flores. But McDaniel has already given Tua a promise ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly 22 women have accused him. Kinda doubt all of them are lying. And I'm sure there will be a civil case along with whatever the NFL does? He's not out of the woods yet. He is out of the woods in the sense that he will now get to continue his career. But there is still a civil case and a suspension. But the "he will never play again" is now for the birds. It might take another year but he will play football again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, stuvian said: OJ has posted a reward to find the real culprit Between toes and this, you're downright 'straight razor totin' nasty' the past couple of days! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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