Britney Griner

[wnyguy]

17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

And who was POTUS in 2018?

 

Ummm Ummm let's see, was it Trump?

 

You freakin moron

[TSOL]

2 minutes ago, T&C said:

It's like we traded a gold coin for a carnival token. 

 

 

It was like trading a Pokemon GSX with 10,000 damage points for a bootlegged Charizard 

Edited December 8, 2022 by TSOL
Sp

[Your Brown Eye]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why didn't Trump get Paul Whelan home?

 

It's funny to hear someone so anti-Trump basically say "yeah well Trump didn't do it so why should Biden have to?"....you'd rather let someone who served his country wrongfully rot in prison because some guy you hate did not negotiate his release so f-him let him rot

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

Why does that matter?  Why are you worrying about Trump?  The deal was done today.  The same reason why Obama didn't close down GITMO (his campaign promise).  There potentially could have not been a deal to be made.  He could have also thought that Viktor Bout was too dangerous to want to be set free.  You need to look at context.  This isn't hard to figure out.  The Russians gave the United States a lesbian, black, WNBA player that beat her wife, and brought illegal vape canabis oil to their country, and plead guilty.  They traded an international arms dealer that would sell advanced weapons to people in civil wars (many times sold them to both sides of the conflicts/wars).  How is that remotely an even trade?  What makes you think he won't do this again, but this time in the comfort of his home in Russia?

 

Why does it matter? Are you really that clueless?  Trump had two years to work a deal with his boss to free Paul.

 

I love how you keep saying: 

 

12 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

Negotiations didn't start until this year. 

 

Where in the world is there a law that states WHEN NEGOTIAITONS start?  

 

Why didn't Trump bring Paul home?

 

5 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

The Russians gave the United States a lesbian, black, WNBA player that beat her wife, and brought illegal vape canabis oil to their country, and plead guilty.

 

Really? The Russians gave the United States an American.  All the other words you describe her show just what a pathetic hack you are.

[Process]

Well played Russia. Well played.

[BillStime]

Just now, Your Brown Eye said:

 

It's funny to hear someone so anti-Trump basically say "yeah well Trump didn't do it so why should Biden have to?"....you'd rather let someone who served his country wrongfully rot in prison because some guy you hate did not negotiate his release so f-him let him rot

 

It's funny to hear anti-Americans cry that Biden didn't prioritize Whelan when Trump had a two-year head start on getting him home.

 

Idiots  

[BillyBilliams]

7 minutes ago, T&C said:

It's like we traded a gold coin for a carnival token. 

 

I don't care if Trump didn't release Whelan.  If Trump felt that Viktor Bout being released wasn't worth it, then this 2018 crap that BillStime was so upset about doesn't matter.  They should have played hard ball and had both released.  This wasn't just an American issue, this is a international issue.  Hundreds of Thousands to Millions of people have died at the hands of people that dealt with Bout.  

[wnyguy]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

It's funny to hear anti-Americans cry that Biden didn't prioritize Whelan when Trump had a two-year head start on getting him home.

 

Idiots  

Maybe, just maybe, Trump did not want to free Viktor Bout, maybe he thought the risk was too high.

 

You freakin moron

[BillyBilliams]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why does it matter? Are you really that clueless?  Trump had two years to work a deal with his boss to free Paul.

 

I love how you keep saying: 

 

 

Where in the world is there a law that states WHEN NEGOTIAITONS start?  

 

Why didn't Trump bring Paul home?

 

 

Really? The Russians gave the United States an American.  All the other words you describe her show just what a pathetic hack you are.

 

The United States left an American who they admit was wrongfully detained and convicted.  They negotiated an American that ADMITTED she committed a crime.  If Trump felt Bout needed to stay in prison because of what he did, then it doesn't matter that Whelan stayed in jail, because it would be a non-starter.  As much as I hate to say it, but I sort of agree.  

[BillStime]

 

5 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

The United States left an American who they admit was wrongfully detained and convicted.  They negotiated an American that ADMITTED she committed a crime.  If Trump felt Bout needed to stay in prison because of what he did, then it doesn't matter that Whelan stayed in jail, because it would be a non-starter.  As much as I hate to say it, but I sort of agree.  

 

Why didn’t Trump bring Paul home?

[Chef Jim]

Who’s “Putin’s Puppet” now?   
 

Here’s a good read for Biden during his Christmas break.

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

I can see the Babylon bee headline now….

 

Biden working to incarcerate another Russian asset in the hopes of future exchanges…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Why didn’t Trump bring Paul home?

Why didn’t Biden?  

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Why didn’t Biden?  

How do you know Biden is done?

 

[Chef Jim]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

How do you know Biden is done?

 

Good point. But why Brittany and not Paul?  Two for one?  

[B-Man]

🙄
 

The teachers union president expresses liberal thinking for all to see 

 

 

 

[aristocrat]

18 minutes ago, BillStime said:

How do you know Biden is done?

 

 

You better hope so and this guy better not start killing people again. The headlines will never end if that occurs

[Niagara Bill]

Will she be suspended for possession of illegal substance by WNBA? 

[Chef Jim]

2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Will she be suspended for possession of illegal substance by WNBA? 

Well now isn’t this a very different and interesting take.  I think we all know the answer but this is a question that need not go away.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

45 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Maybe, just maybe, Trump did not want to free Viktor Bout, maybe he thought the risk was too high.

 

You freakin moron

The Biden admin sends an international criminal called “The Merchant of Death” back to Russia, gets fleeced in the process, brags about caring about all Americans, and reveals his Administration is completely comfortable in negotiating with terrorists and terrorist nations as long as certain boxes are checked.  
 

Naturally, the follow up question form pro-Biden supporters who used to really distrust Russia (from late 2015-early 2021) is “Why didn’t Trump negotiate with the terrorists nation?”. 
 

Even for Billsy, Tibs and the crew, this is pretty dumb.

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The Biden admin sends an international criminal called “The Merchant of Death” back to Russia, gets fleeced in the process, brags about caring about all Americans, and reveals his Administration is completely comfortable in negotiating with terrorists and terrorist nations as long as certain boxes are checked.  
 

Naturally, the follow up question form pro-Biden supporters who used to really distrust Russia (from late 2015-early 2021) is “Why didn’t Trump negotiate with the terrorists nation?”. 
 

Even for Billsy, Tibs and the crew, this is pretty dumb.

I've come to the conclusion that, for that crew, nothing is to dumb. 

[BillStime]

27 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Good point. But why Brittany and not Paul?  Two for one?  

Call Biden and ask him - ok?

[KDIGGZ]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Oh brother 

If Paul Welhan was a 7 foot tall black lesbian maybe he would be free too? Too bad he's a completely innocent white marine

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The Biden admin sends an international criminal called “The Merchant of Death” back to Russia, gets fleeced in the process, brags about caring about all Americans, and reveals his Administration is completely comfortable in negotiating with terrorists and terrorist nations as long as certain boxes are checked.  
 

Naturally, the follow up question form pro-Biden supporters who used to really distrust Russia (from late 2015-early 2021) is “Why didn’t Trump negotiate with the terrorists nation?”. 
 

Even for Billsy, Tibs and the crew, this is pretty dumb.

Oh - precious - we will always have the Helsinki summit.

 

Trump: “I Don’t See Any Reason Why It Would Be Russia”

 

 

And how many love letters did Trump send Kim Jong-un - in addition the $2m for Warmbier’s care who was returned to the US in a comatose state?

 

Idiots 

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

If Paul Welhan was a 7 foot tall black lesbian maybe he would be free too? Too bad he's a completely innocent white marine

Well, Trump's a criminal and he isn't in jail...yet 

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Oh - precious - we will always have the Helsinki summit.

 

Trump: “I Don’t See Any Reason Why It Would Be Russia”

 

 

And how many love letters did Trump send Kim Jong-un - in addition the $2m for Warmbier’s care who was returned to the US in a comatose state?

 

Idiots 

I’d much rather give 2 mil then a guy who is going to go off and kill people 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

If Paul Welhan was a 7 foot tall black lesbian maybe he would be free too? Too bad he's a completely innocent white marine

It’s too bad Trump didn’t ask his boss for Whelan’s release but have faith - Biden has proven to get the tough tasks Trump promised and couldn’t do done. 

[plenzmd1]

 

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

And who was POTUS in 2018?

 

The guy who did not trade "The Merchant Of Death" for anyone just to garner support from a certain voting block. Merchant of death mind you...

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

The guy who did not trade "The Merchant Of Death" for anyone just to garner support from a certain voting block. Merchant of death mind you...

 

Admit it - the author of The Art of the Deal couldn't get the job done. You can do it.

 

[aristocrat]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Admit it - the author of The Art of the Deal couldn't get the job done. You can do it.

 

we admit that. Now admit that this was a bad deal. Unless they drone strike this guy next week this guy seems like he’s gonna go off and start killing more people with his arms dealing to enemies of America

[plenzmd1]

12 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Admit it - the author of The Art of the Deal couldn't get the job done. You can do it.

 

Often times, most times there is no deal to had ya dolt, and when you make one to just make it it is a colossal mistake... Jets GM--Hey Brandon, we want Josh Allen, we will give ya Sauce for him. Brandon--No Deal, he is not tradeable" Billstime--Beane does  not know how to make a trade".

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Oh - precious - we will always have the Helsinki summit.

 

Trump: “I Don’t See Any Reason Why It Would Be Russia”

 

 

And how many love letters did Trump send Kim Jong-un - in addition the $2m for Warmbier’s care who was returned to the US in a comatose state?

 

Idiots 

Sure, if you want to go down this road, that's fair.  In a perfect world, Trump wouldn't send love letters to Korea, Biden wouldn't align  with the Saudis, Obama wouldn't partner with Vlad, and so on.  

 

That said, one can look at the facts as they played out and conclude:

• Korea before Trump was Korea after Trump, and is no less Korea with Biden in office;
• Biden and his crew have almost singlehandedly caused the dependance on Saudi oil and the embarrassing debacle of Biden begging for assistance for the hard cold winter;
• Putin's relationship with the very flexible Obama resulted in the annexation of Crimea and revealed the impotence of Obama;
• On Trump's watch, for all the hype and bluster on his relationship with Putin, Putin stayed home;
• On Biden's watch, Putin quickly moved on Ukraine, with the completely predictable loss of human life and unimaginable suffering that followed;

And now, this

• In less than 10 months, Putin engineered the release of a key ally, by all accounts a reprehensible and vicious human being.  This in spite of :wink wink: outrage :wink wink: at Russia's devastating attack on Ukraine and commonly accepted wisdom that when dealing with a bad human being, it's the height of foolishness to send him more very bad human beings to assist him in his deeds. 

 

Putin knows Biden better than Biden know Biden, and all your manufactured concerns about 'love letters' don't change a thing about what happened and why. 

 

As for Otto Warmbier, it is abject numbskullery to compare his treatment and ultimate release to that of Brittney Grenier.  The situations are not the same in really any way beyond terrorist nations and people being victimized.  In retrospect, it must be heartbreaking for his family to know that the US Government will, in fact negotiate and acquiesce when it's politically advantageous to do so.  

 

I always wonder how far someone like you--the meme generating Hillary popcorn guy--will go to defend things you would criticize under the prior admin.  Have some pride, man.   

 

This is great from Brittney Grenier, that is absolutely indisputable.  It is not great for the world, that, too is indisputable.  Both things can be true.   Why can't you acknowledge that?  It's like you're in...a cult...or something.  

 

29 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

The guy who did not trade "The Merchant Of Death" for anyone just to garner support from a certain voting block. Merchant of death mind you...

Welcome back!

[Chef Jim]

52 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Call Biden and ask him - ok?

 

I tried but they said he was too busy washing Putin's balls.  See I can be a dumbass with childish posts just like you Billy Boy. 

16 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Often times, most times there is no deal to had ya dolt, and when you make one to just make it it is a colossal mistake... Jets GM--Hey Brandon, we want Josh Allen, we will give ya Sauce for him. Brandon--No Deal, he is not tradeable" Billstime--Beane does  not know how to make a trade".

 

 

 

Who the ***** is this new guy????

32 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Admit it - the author of The Art of the Deal couldn't get the job done. You can do it.

 

 

Because maybe he knew the deal sucked.  You do realize that the art of the deal includes realizing when the deal sucks and when to walk away.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I tried but they said he was too busy washing Putin's balls.  

Low brow humor, disrespectful to the Office, and yet very funny.  

 

4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Because maybe he knew the deal sucked.  You do realize that the art of the deal includes realizing when the deal sucks and when to walk away.  

For one to think outside the box, it's helpful if they actually know the box exists.  Sadly, BillSy just thinks it's cloudy all the time. 

[BillStime]

19 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Sure, if you want to go down this road, that's fair.  In a perfect world, Trump wouldn't send love letters to Korea, Biden wouldn't align  with the Saudis, Obama wouldn't partner with Vlad, and so on.  

 

That said, one can look at the facts as they played out and conclude:

• Korea before Trump was Korea after Trump, and is no less Korea with Biden in office;
• Biden and his crew have almost singlehandedly caused the dependance on Saudi oil and the embarrassing debacle of Biden begging for assistance for the hard cold winter;
• Putin's relationship with the very flexible Obama resulted in the annexation of Crimea and revealed the impotence of Obama;
• On Trump's watch, for all the hype and bluster on his relationship with Putin, Putin stayed home;
• On Biden's watch, Putin quickly moved on Ukraine, with the completely predictable loss of human life and unimaginable suffering that followed;

And now, this

• In less than 10 months, Putin engineered the release of a key ally, by all accounts a reprehensible and vicious human being.  This in spite of :wink wink: outrage :wink wink: at Russia's devastating attack on Ukraine and commonly accepted wisdom that when dealing with a bad human being, it's the height of foolishness to send him more very bad human beings to assist him in his deeds. 

 

Putin knows Biden better than Biden know Biden, and all your manufactured concerns about 'love letters' don't change a thing about what happened and why. 

 

As for Otto Warmbier, it is abject numbskullery to compare his treatment and ultimate release to that of Brittney Grenier.  The situations are not the same in really any way beyond terrorist nations and people being victimized.  In retrospect, it must be heartbreaking for his family to know that the US Government will, in fact negotiate and acquiesce when it's politically advantageous to do so.  

 

I always wonder how far someone like you--the meme generating Hillary popcorn guy--will go to defend things you would criticize under the prior admin.  Have some pride, man.   

 

This is great from Brittney Grenier, that is absolutely indisputable.  It is not great for the world, that, too is indisputable.  Both things can be true.   Why can't you acknowledge that?  It's like you're in...a cult...or something.  

 

Welcome back!

 

Why didn't Trump get the deal done with his boss and get PW released?

 

[Wacka]

56 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Often times, most times there is no deal to had ya dolt, and when you make one to just make it it is a colossal mistake... Jets GM--Hey Brandon, we want Josh Allen, we will give ya Sauce for him. Brandon--No Deal, he is not tradeable" Billstime--Beane does  not know how to make a trade".

 

 

BS wouldn't say that. He doesn't know who Allen or Beane are. I believe he is a Fish or Cheateriots fan. Have never seen him post anything on the Stadium wall or Off Topic.That and he''s a f'n commie b*st**d.

Edited December 8, 2022 by Wacka

[ALF]

The moral of the story ,  don't go to Russia for any reason.

[BillStime]

12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Low brow humor, disrespectful to the Office, and yet very funny.  

 

For one to think outside the box, it's helpful if they actually know the box exists.  Sadly, BillSy just thinks it's cloudy all the time. 

 

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Administration is completely comfortable in negotiating with terrorists and terrorist nations

 

Negotiating with terrorists? Are you serious?

 

Trump surrendered an entire country that we spent trillions and lost way too many Americans to a terrorist organization and released 5,000 terrorists and didn't get one thing in return - including this guy:

 

President Trump, Don’t Leave My Brother, Mark Frerichs, a Hostage, Behind

 

Of course, Biden got the job done:

 

Mark Frerichs, a Navy veteran - held hostage in Afghanistan has been freed in a prisoner swap