Simon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I don’t know if we need to upgrade on Morse after what I saw him do on Saturday. He's been the best Offensive Lineman on this team all year long and it's not even close. People who want to dump him and create another hole just to save a couple dollars are out of their minds, imo. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Couple of things. He has concussion issues; luckily no issues this year. He has 1 yr left on a hefty contract that will pay him roughly 6.9 mil in 2022. Doubt the Bills would franchise tag him. Maybe he stays for another contract, but if not, we should try and groom an eventual replacement. Be proactive and not reactive is my thought. I don't know if issues is the right word, he's had them before so is more likely to retire if he gets another one, because you have to call it at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Doc said: I'm thinking they tender him with right of first refusal at $2.4M. No need to overpay unless someone else offers a huge deal, which I don't see. I too think a 1st round tender is too much for a G. At most the 2nd round at $3.9M or what you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, ColoradoBills said: I too think a 1st round tender is too much for a G. At most the 2nd round at $3.9M or what you said. Yeah, can't see the 1st round tender. The 2nd round sure, if he continues to play well this post-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Couple of things. He has concussion issues; luckily no issues this year. He has 1 yr left on a hefty contract that will pay him roughly 6.9 mil in 2022. Doubt the Bills would franchise tag him. Maybe he stays for another contract, but if not, we should try and groom an eventual replacement. Be proactive and not reactive is my thought. I’m fine with using a Day 3 pick on a smart, athletic, perhaps undersized G/C prospect they can groom to play center in a few years but there’s no way I’m using a high pick or cap dollars on the position. They’ve also got Bates and Mongo who can slide over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Simon said: He's been the best Offensive Lineman on this team all year long and it's not even close. People who want to dump him and create another hole just to save a couple dollars are out of their minds, imo. I don't see it as wanting to dump him at all, but have a plan in place. He is an UFA in 2023 according to SPORTRAC, are you assured he will resign? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyobills89 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Earlier in the year one of his family members hinted at him possibly retiring. With a newborn and his concussion history I wouldn't put it past him. I know when you have kids priorities start to change. I'd like for him to play another year but the bills would be wise in getting a backup plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: I’m fine with using a Day 3 pick on a smart, athletic, perhaps undersized G/C prospect they can groom to play center in a few years but there’s no way I’m using a high pick or cap dollars on the position. They’ve also got Bates and Mongo who can slide over. Totally agree; definitely not advocating for that. I think Bates might be solidified at LG, and perhaps Mongo is the guy. I have a feeling he might be released though, but that's just a guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: I don't see it as wanting to dump him at all, but have a plan in place. He is an UFA in 2023 according to SPORTRAC, are you assured he will resign? I was referring to the folks who want to cut him this offseason to save some money on the salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Brown has become our Enforcer, which is an essential hulk to have when your team is carried by the best player in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 It was a great play, but that is no where near "flatten", blocked? yes...flattened? c'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Bill Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: LOVE this big rookie!! His presence is a large part of the major improvement in OL play. I love the big wookie too! As stated prior, the Chiefs have not had to deal with our latest incarnation of O-line. I think it's going to be the difference in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Simon said: He's been the best Offensive Lineman on this team all year long and it's not even close. People who want to dump him and create another hole just to save a couple dollars are out of their minds, imo. Agree. If Morse wants to play he stays. He also has the perfect contract that can be played with to free up some cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 He's fun to watch but I'm still not convinced Spencer is the long-term answer at OT. He gives up too many pressures at this point, but if he keeps working it, he's likely to get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said: I love the big wookie too! As stated prior, the Chiefs have not had to deal with our latest incarnation of O-line. I think it's going to be the difference in the game. Absolutely!! Also they will have to account for our rushing attack this time whereas last 2 games they didn't respect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: It was a great play, but that is no where near "flatten", blocked? yes...flattened? c'mon. OK, OK, plenty of comments about this. I'm amending my assessment from "flattened" to "cajoled away from the QB" No matter what you call it, it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Simon said: He's fun to watch but I'm still not convinced Spencer is the long-term answer at OT. He gives up too many pressures at this point, but if he keeps working it, he's likely to get better. He’s already plus in the run game, and in arriving at the pile just before the whistle to, ahhh, “wear down” the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Thats my QB....sniff Those 5/6 guys know who the straw is that stirs the drink and they lay it all on the line. So nice to see a rookie playing like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Ralonzo said: He’s already plus in the run game, and in arriving at the pile just before the whistle to, ahhh, “wear down” the defense. No gripes with any of that; love to watch him play all over the field. Just a little worried about his feet in passpro; he's had some occasional, but recurring tics that Josh's presence and athleticism have covered up. With DWilliams deservedly on his way out the door and the Bill about to have no OT depth, if I'm Beane I'm sorely tempted to use that first pick on a good young OT and kick Spencer inside to solve a couple problems with a single asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supe Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Expect to see Brown (a former 8 man All-State tight end) report in as eligible as did Doyle on Saturday. The former power forward can post up or run away from a DB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Supe said: Expect to see Brown (a former 8 man All-State tight end) report in as eligible as did Doyle on Saturday. The former power forward can post up or run away from a DB. How'd you like to see that coming down the lane at ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 10:41 AM, Georgie said: Every place I look Brown is listed at 311. Where do you get 290? Since he is almost 24,he might be done growing. Done growing for sure, but body composition can change and weight can go up or down pretty easy. The guy looks solid, but almost everyone coming out of college can gain on strength with NFL trainers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: No gripes with any of that; love to watch him play all over the field. Just a little worried about his feet in passpro; he's had some occasional, but recurring tics that Josh's presence and athleticism have covered up. With DWilliams deservedly on his way out the door and the Bill about to have no OT depth, if I'm Beane I'm sorely tempted to use that first pick on a good young OT and kick Spencer inside to solve a couple problems with a single asset. I doubt Williams is on his way out. He's relatively cheap ($7M) even for a starting OG and there are no replacements in FA who will better and cost anywhere close to that amount. It's possible they could draft someone, but they'll have to make a determination by 3/20 because almost 2/3 of his base salary guarantees the next day, and the draft won't have yet occurred, much less will any rookie prove to be starting material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doc said: I doubt Williams is on his way out. He's relatively cheap ($7M) even for a starting OG and there are no replacements in FA who will better and cost anywhere close to that amount. It's possible they could draft someone, but they'll have to make a determination by 3/20 because almost 2/3 of his base salary guarantees the next day, and the draft won't have yet occurred, much less will any rookie prove to be starting material. The problem is that he's not a starting-caliber Guard at this point; he's been gawdawful all year no matter where they stick him. And the only reason a guy goes that quickly from being as great as he was last year to as bad he's been this year is because he's not focused and putting in the work; and that is not part of the Process. It's also not the first time he's been great in a contract year and turned into a blob of old mayonnaise the year after he got paid. I think he puled the same thing in Carolina. If he was in a contract year next season I could see the Bills holding on to him in the hopes he decides to show up and play for one more contract. But I think he's got two years left and I doubt if the Bills are going to risk paying him to take up an important roster spot next year when their #1 priority has to be putting a really good OLine in front of their franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: The problem is that he's not a starting-caliber Guard at this point; he's been gawdawful all year no matter where they stick him. And the only reason a guy goes that quickly from being as great as he was last year to as bad he's been this year is because he's not focused and putting in the work; and that is not part of the Process. It's also not the first time he's been great in a contract year and turned into a blob of old mayonnaise the year after he got paid. I think he puled the same thing in Carolina. If he was in a contract year next season I could see the Bills holding on to him in the hopes he decides to show up and play for one more contract. But I think he's got two years left and I doubt if the Bills are going to risk paying him to take up an important roster spot next year when their #1 priority has to be putting a really good OLine in front of their franchise QB. No, he got injured. He made 2nd team All-Pro at RT in his 3rd season and then was lost for the season in the first game of the next season, all while still under his rookie contract. Then when he returned, they played him everywhere but RT. What his story was at RT this year, I have no idea, but you're the first person to say he's been playing godawful at RG. But again, I don't see a better option at even a similar price in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) i really like Spencer Brown and believe the kid is gonna be one of the greats with a bit more experience. Edited January 20, 2022 by billybob71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Home run draft pick, an athletic monster with attitude? 3rd round, Are you kidding me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Great play. Apparently there was a discussion by the ref as to whether they would call a penalty on Brown for the second contact of Van Noy. Glad they left it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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