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a 5% drop in completions, less yards per game with 5 more picks thrown with several deflections at the line becoming ints.

only sacked 26 times is a credit to him, Burrow has been sacked double that !

running more, but not in red zone,  as overall rush yards are way up with less TDs...its not been as good as last year or has it ?

 

 

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 that plays a factor in the statsThe office of line except for the last two games doesn’t appear like it has played as well as it did last year Williams was out at right tackle gearing up for a big extension and ended up having to get moved into guard mongo has been wildly inconsistent the offense of line has been shuffled and re-shuffled that plays a factor in the stats

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We've had many more bad-weather games this year compared to last year which has a big impact on the stats. 

 

Overall, I think Josh is a more complete quarterback this year, even if the stats don't show it the way we'd like for an MVP race.  He has added the ability to hit crossing routes and underneath passes much better than a year ago.  I believe his decision making is quicker than it was last year as well.

 

 

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Pass protection was much worse this season, and we had a lot of bad weather games this season. Did we even have a bad weather game last season? I can’t remember one. Also defenses really keyed in on him this year with that cover-2/high safety stuff (which also gave Mahomes problems).

 

With those things in mind I think he played just as well this year as last year. Not better, not worse.

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Even with an entire off season of the best minds on the planet studying to defend this guy he’s still producing at mvp levels.

The one stat that’s still amazing about these numbers too is the size of his receivers he’s got the smallest starting receiving corps in the league with only one of his top 5 over 6ft tall being Gabe Davis so it limits the type of throws he can attempt when a guy like Cole who is good but is also 5’9 in short the guy is just amazing 

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5 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

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per Sal C

a 5% drop in completions, less yards per game with 5 more picks thrown with several deflections at the line becoming ints.

only sacked 26 times is a credit to him, Burrow has been sacked double that !

running more, but not in red zone,  as overall rush yards are way up with less TDs...its not been as good as last year or has it ?

 

 

 

 

It has not.

 

Still an excellent year this year but definitely not as good, as we knew even before seeing these stats. 

 

Last year's offensive DVOA was 23.8%, and 34.5 when weighted. This year's is 11.5%. Couldn't find the weighted. And an awful lot of that is on Allen. Who has been merely excellent instead of absolutely elite.

 

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Even with an entire off season of the best minds on the planet studying to defend this guy he’s still producing at mvp levels.

The one stat that’s still amazing about these numbers too is the size of his receivers he’s got the smallest starting receiving corps in the league with only one of his top 5 over 6ft tall being Gabe Davis so it limits the type of throws he can attempt when a guy like Cole who is good but is also 5’9 in short the guy is just amazing 

 

 

Every receiver, tall or small, limits the throws you can attempt based on his strengths and weaknesses.

 

Plenty of taller WRs limit the throws based on an ability to get separation that doesn't compare with guys like Diggs, McKenzie and Beasley. Our guys are consistently excellent at creating separation. That's just as good, if not better than height.

 

 

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Allen was a ridiculous last season. That was never sustainable with the offense we have around him. But he's still balling out. 

 

This off-season solidify the o line, get a RB other teams actually have to worry about, and bring in another playmaker at WR.

 

You put Allen on the Cardinals, cowboys, bucs or Bengals, he has the best numbers in the league and is the clear MVP, imo.

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3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It has not.

 

Still an excellent year this year but definitely not as good, as we knew even before seeing these stats. 

 

Last year's offensive DVOA was 23.8%, and 34.5 when weighted. This year's is 11.5%. Couldn't find the weighted. And an awful lot of that is on Allen. Who has been merely excellent instead of absolutely elite.

 

 

 

Every receiver, tall or small, limits the throws you can attempt based on his strengths and weaknesses.

 

Plenty of taller WRs limit the throws based on an ability to get separation that doesn't compare with guys like Diggs, McKenzie and Beasley. Our guys are consistently excellent at creating separation. That's just as good, if not better than height.

 

 

Oh I disagree totally you give Josh a Deandre Hopkins or a CeeDee Lamb who you can just throw a ball up to on a contested catch you put this offense in a whole different level 

All great offenses in this league have at least one guy who the qb can throw the ball up to and say make a play Bills don’t really have that 

Case and point what’s happening in Cincy while Joe Burrow has Chase whose basically their Diggs…on the other side he’s got Tee Higgins 

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