I hate to say it … but the Pats are coming

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, BaaadThingsMan said:

Not a Bills fan

Ah ok. Well now I can make sense of it

[billsfan1959]

22 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Sure I'm not the most optimistic at times with this team

 

That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was slightly maladjusted...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

As some one who doesn't like the Pats, I hope the Bills split with them and lose to the Colts. The Homerism in this place has gone way to over the top. They are 5-3 with a cupcake schedule. These next few weeks will tell the tale. 

 

Homerism?

 

If you don’t like it —- Nice knowing you 

 

please come back when your head clears up

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

PFF had him graded exactly the same as JA17 yesterday.

 

You state this as if matters in any way. PFF is a clown show at best. 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Not a Bills fan

so u are here to just troll?

 

it Indy week. 
 

Not Cheatriots week 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Yes, so based on this does that mean Allen isn't good either:

 

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1460291614866386945/photo/1

 

 

No it means that PFF has very little credibility. We already know Allen is a fantastic QB.

 

 

 

 

[Jrb1979]

12 minutes ago, Success said:

 

You hope the Bills lose to the Colts?

 

Yes I do. It's mainly do to with the fans. There is some good posters here but I find a few that are over the top. 

[Bubba Gump]

Buffalo Bills homerism on a Buffalo Bills fan discussion platform?? I am shocked I tell you, shocked!!!

 

Some people are ridiculous.

[Success]

Homerism gets a bad rap.

 

It's the only way to be.  I thought Orton was the answer.  And I'm proud of that.

 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Yes I do. It's mainly do to with the fans. There is some good posters here but I find a few that are over the top. 

If you're wanting Bills losses, what team are you a fan of? 

[Bubba Gump]

1 minute ago, Success said:

Homerism gets a bad rap.

 

It's the only way to be.  I thought Orton was the answer.  And I'm proud of that.

 

 

How can you be a fan if not being a homer?? Doesn't make sense. I'm a Bills homer, but I think they have a lot of work to do to make the Superbowl.

[CincyBillsFan]

54 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

It's pretty much what Tom Brady made a career on especially during the Pats SB championships in the early 2000's.

 

I didn't think Jones would be this good so soon and thought he was more the product of Alabama and Saban's system but it's clear the Patriots landed a steal and the best QB in the draft class and why they were quick to dump a former MVP and roll with Jones at the beginning of the year.

Are you talking about all those dump off passes to Moss that Brady threw?  Brady was never reluctant to launch it downfield.

 

And for the record I like Jones and think he is doing the best of the rookie QB's this year. But we're a long way from knowing whether he's the best QB in his draft class.  In some ways Jones reminds me of Baker Mayfield: came from an elite college program and hit the ground running.  But after a fantastic rookie season Baker's progression leveled off and now it's doubtful the Browns see him as their franchise QB.

 

 

[Weatherman]

56 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

It's pretty much what Tom Brady made a career on especially during the Pats SB championships in the early 2000's.

 

I didn't think Jones would be this good so soon and thought he was more the product of Alabama and Saban's system but it's clear the Patriots landed a steal and the best QB in the draft class and why they were quick to dump a former MVP and roll with Jones at the beginning of the year.

It’s clear after 10 games into their career that Jones is the best QB in the draft class?  It wasn’t until last year the media finally realized Mayfield and Darnald were below Josh Allen.  Might want to pump the breaks anointing him as the best.  He went into the best situation of all the QB’s but that’s all I’d be willing to conclude at this point.  Anything else is extremely ignorant and short sighted.  

[BaaadThingsMan]

10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

so u are here to just troll?

 

it Indy week. 
 

Not Cheatriots week 

 

Nothing in my post history suggests trolling.

 

I'm a Bills fan. Period.

 

I hate the cheatriots every week no matter the opponent and I hate that there are threads praising them and or their players. 

 

***** the cheatriots.

 

Is that plain enough to understand? 

 

[Jrb1979]

5 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

How can you be a fan if not being a homer?? Doesn't make sense. I'm a Bills homer, but I think they have a lot of work to do to make the Superbowl.

I can agree with that. It's thinking like that I can get behind. Its the over the top Homerism I can't stand.  To act like the Bills are the best in the AFC at 5-3 when they have a bad O-Line and can't run the ball. 

[BaaadThingsMan]

The puke emojis that @Jrb1979keeps spewing about are what you would call trolling. 

[Beast]

13 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Yes I do. It's mainly do to with the fans. There is some good posters here but I find a few that are over the top. 

 

🤡

[BaaadThingsMan]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

I can agree with that. It's thinking like that I can get behind. Its the over the top Homerism I can't stand.  To act like the Bills are the best in the AFC at 5-3 when they have a bad O-Line and can't run the ball. 

🤡

[billsfan1959]

Just now, Jrb1979 said:

I can agree with that. It's thinking like that I can get behind. Its the over the top Homerism I can't stand.  To act like the Bills are the best in the AFC at 5-3 when they have a bad O-Line and can't run the ball. 

 

And your response is to root for your team to lose? WTF kind of logic is that?

[BaaadThingsMan]

Hahaha you cheatriot fans are all the same.

 

Go home to your sad little message boards and rejoice in your cheating ways. 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

And your response is to root for your team to lose? WTF kind of logic is that?

He's not a Bills fan. He's a troll and not a very good one. 

[Jrb1979]

2 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Hahaha you cheatriot fans are all the same.

 

Go home to your sad little message boards and rejoice in your cheating ways. 

 

 

 

 

He's not a Bills fan. He's a troll and not a very good one. 

First I'm not a Pats fan at all. 2nd I have been on this board for years. I feel some here need some humbling. 

[Patrick Duffy]

5 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

Nothing in my post history suggests trolling.

 

I'm a Bills fan. Period.

 

I hate the cheatriots every week no matter the opponent and I hate that there are threads praising them and or their players. 

 

***** the cheatriots.

 

Is that plain enough to understand? 

 

Think he got confused when you told me other poster was "not a Bills fan" and he probably thought you were speaking about yourself? Guess he didn't see where I asked if that poster was a Bills fan lol

 

So much miscommunication sometimes lol

[BaaadThingsMan]

Just now, Jrb1979 said:

First I'm not a Pats fan at all. 2nd I have been on this board for years. I feel some here need some humbling. 

Been on the board or not you can easily tell you are not a Bills fan.

 

Nothing I said about you is wrong IMO.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

First I'm not a Pats fan at all. 2nd I have been on this board for years. I feel some here need some humbling. 

So what team are you a fan of then? Or are you?

[BaaadThingsMan]

Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Think he got confused when you told me other poster was "not a Bills fan" and he probably thought you were speaking about yourself? Guess he didn't see where I asked if that poster was a Bills fan lol

 

So much miscommunication sometimes lol

Love my Bills! I can get a little defensive 😀

[Coffeesforclosers]

 

So what if the Patriots are hot.  Who cares? God sometimes I think it's always 2007 for some people.  My view on NE is "No Brady, No Problem" until they prove otherwise, because that's what their record against Josh, Daboll and McD says they are.

Edited November 15, 2021 by Coffeesforclosers

[Gambit]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

First I'm not a Pats fan at all. 2nd I have been on this board for years. I feel some here need some humbling. 

So, the Bills should lose because some fans are overly excited about the team? If you truly aren't a troll then I honestly am in complete shock at that thought process. Should they be miserable like some of the other fans are?

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

So what team are you a fan of then? Or are you?

Just a football fan in general. I'm mostly here to chat about that other team in Buffalo that gets disrespected here. 

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

First I'm not a Pats fan at all. 2nd I have been on this board for years. I feel some here need some humbling. 

What a load of crap.  Bills fans have been humbled for the last two decades.  Hell, losing FOUR straight Super Bowls will humble a fan base and that's when we were playing great.

 

Now that the Bills have real talent all over the roster with a stud franchise QB why shouldn't we be excited and optimistic about this team?  IMO the sad sack posters are exhibiting clear signs of PTSS with the idea that the sky is about to fall in on the Bills because the Pats are playing good football.  It's insane.

 

 

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

Just a football fan in general. I'm mostly here to chat about that other team in Buffalo that gets disrespected here. 

ok got it. What other team in Buffalo is getting disrespected here? Sabres? I'm not sure what you mean by "other team in Buffalo being disrespected"

[PatsFanNH]

48 minutes ago, Success said:

 

You're a Patriots fan in '21 - talking about how the Bills haven't really beaten anyone good?

 

Trying to say you haven’t faced the tough part of your schedule! The Pats have 4 losses, 1 to the SB Champs TB (#3 O) One to Dallas ( #1 O) and One to NO (#7 D)We also loss an ugh game to Miami. Meanwhile the Bills loss to TN (middle pack every stat), Pitt (Top O) and an Ugh game to Jax. 
 

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 
 

So if you think your team had a tough schedule wait till the next 4 weeks done.. that’s the hard part of their schedule. They could easily go 4-0 or 0-4.. I am guessing more likely 2-2

 

[Success]

8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Trying to say you haven’t faced the tough part of your schedule! The Pats have 4 losses, 1 to the SB Champs TB (#3 O) One to Dallas ( #1 O) and One to NO (#7 D)We also loss an ugh game to Miami. Meanwhile the Bills loss to TN (middle pack every stat), Pitt (Top O) and an Ugh game to Jax. 
 

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 
 

So if you think your team had a tough schedule wait till the next 4 weeks done.. that’s the hard part of their schedule. They could easily go 4-0 or 0-4.. I am guessing more likely 2-2

 

 

Were the Browns not a "mess" when you played them yesterday, without most of their starting running game?  How about the Panthers with Darnold?  The Chargers win seemed good at the time, but they might not even make the playoffs at this point.

 

The Pats wins haven't been more impressive.

 

[billsfan1959]

7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 

 

The Pats***** beat the Chargers in the middle of a 3 of 4 losing streak, the Panthers who had lost 4 of their previous 5, and a schizophrenic Browns team, without Chubb and Hunt, who are not that great when they are playing well and downright awful when they aren't. And KC was bad when the Bills played them?

 

Please....

[FilthyBeast]

43 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

No it means that PFF has very little credibility. We already know Allen is a fantastic QB.

 

 

 

 

 

This is classic, PFF says just Allen is a good QB...."It doesn't matter we already know that"

 

But when the same grading says Mac Jones is also a good QB " who cares PFF is a joke and has no credibility".

 

Also for the record, I'm well aware that PFF can be highly misleading as can other advanced data and metrics but I go with the facts and in this case they are accurate in regards to both respective QB's.

[Hebert19]

Will park this Stat here.  McDermott is 5-1 vs rookie QBs.  They have thrown 4 TDs and 13 INTs in those games. 

 

Mac is playing great and will be a good QB...but let's see how he dies against this D before we get too scared. 

[Patrick Duffy]

15 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Trying to say you haven’t faced the tough part of your schedule! The Pats have 4 losses, 1 to the SB Champs TB (#3 O) One to Dallas ( #1 O) and One to NO (#7 D)We also loss an ugh game to Miami. Meanwhile the Bills loss to TN (middle pack every stat), Pitt (Top O) and an Ugh game to Jax. 
 

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 
 

So if you think your team had a tough schedule wait till the next 4 weeks done.. that’s the hard part of their schedule. They could easily go 4-0 or 0-4.. I am guessing more likely 2-2

 

I can agree with you to a certain extent, as far as Bills loss to Tenn who has the best record in the AFC, means nothing about their rank in stats. I mean obviously Tenn is one of the top teams, especially when Bills played them. The loss of Henry is big for sure, but still are very tough team.

 

Pitt game was 1st of year, and they are no slouch either. Jags game was surprising, but as we see there have been quite a few big upsets over top teams as of late.

[Scott7975]

37 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Trying to say you haven’t faced the tough part of your schedule! The Pats have 4 losses, 1 to the SB Champs TB (#3 O) One to Dallas ( #1 O) and One to NO (#7 D)We also loss an ugh game to Miami. Meanwhile the Bills loss to TN (middle pack every stat), Pitt (Top O) and an Ugh game to Jax. 
 

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 
 

So if you think your team had a tough schedule wait till the next 4 weeks done.. that’s the hard part of their schedule. They could easily go 4-0 or 0-4.. I am guessing more likely 2-2

 

 

Thats a little hypocritical IMO.  Cleveland is middling and was beat up when you played them on top of that.  Panthers are garbage. Chargers are on a 4? game losing streak.  You pride yourself on losing to the SB Champs and give us a negative on beating the runner ups lol. You dismiss we were inches away of beating the top team in the AFC who has currently beaten every AFC playoff team from last year. I mean I get it.  You are a Pats fan and are feeling more homer because the Pats are doing better than even you probably expected.  Don't come here and take a dump on my team acting all superior like though.

Edited November 16, 2021 by Scott7975

[Patrick Duffy]

30 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Trying to say you haven’t faced the tough part of your schedule! The Pats have 4 losses, 1 to the SB Champs TB (#3 O) One to Dallas ( #1 O) and One to NO (#7 D)We also loss an ugh game to Miami. Meanwhile the Bills loss to TN (middle pack every stat), Pitt (Top O) and an Ugh game to Jax. 
 

Pats have beaten Chargers, Cleveland, and Panthers.. all teams better than any you have beaten so far outside of KC.. and if we are honest KC was a mess when you faced them and not that good. 
 

So if you think your team had a tough schedule wait till the next 4 weeks done.. that’s the hard part of their schedule. They could easily go 4-0 or 0-4.. I am guessing more likely 2-2

 

And as for this part of your post, @Success said exactly what I would have. 

[Scott7975]

19 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

This is classic, PFF says just Allen is a good QB...."It doesn't matter we already know that"

 

But when the same grading says Mac Jones is also a good QB " who cares PFF is a joke and has no credibility".

 

Also for the record, I'm well aware that PFF can be highly misleading as can other advanced data and metrics but I go with the facts and in this case they are accurate in regards to both respective QB's.

 

Thats not what he said at all.  He said PFF is garbage and we don't need them to tell us Allen is good.  We knew that long before PFF wanted to admit their metrics were wrong.

20 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

This is classic, PFF says just Allen is a good QB...."It doesn't matter we already know that"

 

But when the same grading says Mac Jones is also a good QB " who cares PFF is a joke and has no credibility".

 

Also for the record, I'm well aware that PFF can be highly misleading as can other advanced data and metrics but I go with the facts and in this case they are accurate in regards to both respective QB's.

 

Subjective grading isn't a fact in any sense of the word.  You can't have a fact if its subjective.  Their entire grading system is literally someone like you or me watching a football game and giving a grade on something specific.  There is no professionalism in that.  Even if it was a professional guy its still subjective lol.  Its an opinion piece.  Its Joe B and his grading.  

[PatsFanNH]

39 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

The Pats***** beat the Chargers in the middle of a 3 of 4 losing streak, the Panthers who had lost 4 of their previous 5, and a schizophrenic Browns team, without Chubb and Hunt, who are not that great when they are playing well and downright awful when they aren't. And KC was bad when the Bills played them?

 

Please....

Every one of the Patriots wins was against an above .500 team.. Bills are yet to beat a team (outside of the 1-0 Dolphins) who have a winning record when they meet.  That’s simple facts.. 

28 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I can agree with you to a certain extent, as far as Bills loss to Tenn who has the best record in the AFC, means nothing about their rank in stats. I mean obviously Tenn is one of the top teams, especially when Bills played them. The loss of Henry is big for sure, but still are very tough team.

 

Pitt game was 1st of year, and they are no slouch either. Jags game was surprising, but as we see there have been quite a few big upsets over top teams as of late.

Jags was your ugh.. game. Lol it seems very common this year. Also the Steelers when you faced them had one of the toughest D in the league and still do. (I said O I meant D lol)  The Bills could easily be 8-1… just like my Pats could easily be 9-1.. if anything they been weirdly similar this year with a weird bad lass. (Miami, Jags) a tough close loss (TN and Dallas and TB) and 1 loss they just didn’t deserve to win. (Pitt and NO)