Bferra13 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I dont think he's anything special. Serviceable starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The real question...has Darnold slipped behind Mason Rudolph? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Rudolph may end up being better than Darnold or Mayfield. Forgot he was in that draft class. I think all 3 are good, but not elite qb’s. Because you post on here, I make the assumption that you actually watch NFL football. How you could think that Mason Rudolph is a good quarterback is beyond me. They are literally playing the rotting corpse of Ben Roethlisberger this year instead of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I want the Browns to pay Baker because they'll never be able to field a competitive team with him as the starter (and paying him) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Maynard said: Dislocated his shoulder again. Yes, he’s playing injured for sure. How many hits can a dislocated shoulder take before he puts himself out of a job…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Baker Mayfield was the most pro ready QB of his class. Josh Rosen was the most pro ready of his class. It was clear. What they assumed was that these QBs had also a higher ceiling in addition to a higher floor. GMs wanted to rebuild faster than investing in a Josh Allen type with a high ceiling but long development plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Huh? What? said: I don't think so as of now, but... Darnold seems to have reached Baker's best NFL level this season, if not surpassed it... Wutttt? I live in Carolina and watch their games (on the 2nd smaller TV if Bills are on).... dude had a good few games to start the year, but has really reverted back to old form the last 2.5 games. Frustrating ALSOOOOO I'm prepared to get flamed here, but I am 100% taking Baker over Lamar too. Bakers stats are down. He's hurt. Their offense is very balanced/leaning towards run game. They have Chubb and Hunt, and a good defense. It's just the way that teams built 🤷♂️ Edited October 18, 2021 by BillsShredder83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Huh? What? said: I don't think so as of now, but... Darnold seems to have reached Baker's best NFL level this season, if not surpassed it... Does it matter? I mean he’s either 3 or 4…but Allen and Lamar are 2 tiers higher than both Baker and Darnold. I mean they are a distant third regardless who you put at third. I would still take Baker over Darnold personally, Darnold doesn’t have the balls to be good. But again, it doesn’t really matter. Neither is remotely close to the top of the class of Allen and Lamar. Edited October 18, 2021 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Baker is a glorified game manager. Needs a run game so he can work off play action. He’s not a drop back throw 40 times a game guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 A lot of games to go but if it continues to trend like it is now, it is going to be very interesting decision by the Browns during the off season of how much to pay BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 hours ago, benderbender said: Baker Mayfield was the most pro ready QB of his class. Josh Rosen was the most pro ready of his class. It was clear. What they assumed was that these QBs had also a higher ceiling in addition to a higher floor. GMs wanted to rebuild faster than investing in a Josh Allen type with a high ceiling but long development plan. Weren't they the same class ??😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, SMAKCruiser said: Weren't they the same class ??😐 They were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 So do they give him a huge contract or let him play out the 5th year? Is his performance hurt by the NTS injury? It sure hurt Josh in 4 games last year 2 of which were KC and Tenn. So far the only one of that group that has been paid is Josh, Lamar should get his at seasons end and Darnold might if he keeps it up. Baker flashed as a rookie regressed as sophomore lit it up his third year and is now in regression mode again(this started before the injury) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Wutttt? I live in Carolina and watch their games (on the 2nd smaller TV if Bills are on).... dude had a good few games to start the year, but has really reverted back to old form the last 2.5 games. Frustrating ALSOOOOO I'm prepared to get flamed here, but I am 100% taking Baker over Lamar too. Bakers stats are down. He's hurt. Their offense is very balanced/leaning towards run game. They have Chubb and Hunt, and a good defense. It's just the way that teams built 🤷♂️ Baker stinks this year. The Browns have 1 quality win. There's no fact based reason to prefer Baker right now over Jackson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 He's really hurt. We all remember how bad Allen was with that injury last year, and it wasn't nearly as bad as what Baker is dealing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I don't know. Seems like he has made the Browns into a playoff contender every year. Played better against the Chiefs in the playoffs than the Bills did last year. As others have mentioned, he has been playing hurt recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Baker stinks this year. The Browns have 1 quality win. There's no fact based reason to prefer Baker right now over Jackson. Well it's track record and ceiling taken into acct, plus I think Bakers hurt more than they're letting on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Darnold has actually been showing some Jets syndrome carry over the last couple weeks. Baker I don't think is there yet but he's getting there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: I don't know. Seems like he has made the Browns into a playoff contender every year. Played better against the Chiefs in the playoffs than the Bills did last year. As others have mentioned, he has been playing hurt recently. 24 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Well it's track record and ceiling taken into acct, plus I think Bakers hurt more than they're letting on Baker's will be a career 3500 yard/25 TD a year passing QB. With or without in jury, that's what he has been. It's what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Darnold has been regressing, but the late-game play vs the Cowboys and Minnesota is still pretty impressive. The jury remains out on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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