Ayjent Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said: I definitely think this is true 10+ years ago when they were a winning program, but I am not sure it rings true with the societal changes and the string of bad coaches that have rolled through USC since Carrol snuck out the back door before the NCAA hit them. I think at this point they are looking for a clean guy that can win and not a guy that has been run out of 3 college programs for potential violations and then “fired” from the NFL for this conduct. I could be wrong - I know USC wants to win badly as that entire conference has been run out of college football in recent years, but I just can’t see him as even a potential option with how he has handled his recent departures and then this issue. You would like to think it would impact his chances, and maybe it will with some programs, but Urban Meyer wins national championships and honestly that means some decent program desperate to regain glory will take him. It's really that simple. This stuff will blow over after a little time, and he will be a hot commodity before you know it. Whether he has the "heart" to get back into it is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ayjent said: You would like to think it would impact his chances, and maybe it will with some programs, but Urban Meyer wins national championships and honestly that means some decent program desperate to regain glory will take him. It's really that simple. This stuff will blow over after a little time, and he will be a hot commodity before you know it. Whether he has the "heart" to get back into it is a different story. Agree for the most part. But it would be very hard for a team, any team, to hire him at this time, IMO. Need some temporal distance from this crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, The Dean said: Agree for the most part. But it would be very hard for a team, any team, to hire him at this time, IMO. Need some temporal distance from this crap Not hard... but cheap. Distance lasts until the college season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 It’s time for the football world, college and pro, to say “no more” to Urban Meyer. Go away, you prick. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 It is hard for me to understand how Meyer was able to win as much as he did. One poster in this thread claimed that Meyer works harder than anyone. This is NOT true. Nick Saban works 16 hour days. He once won a title on a Monday Night and demanded that his staff be at work on Thursday morning, this after flying back from California. Btw, Meyer holds a grudge against Saban because he once called him and asked for a job and Saban refused him. Saban of course talked about how mistaken he was. Now I have at least an inkling as to why he said no. Also.....FWIW, I have just a bit of experience with people like this. Was alcohol a contributing factor? No doubt. That said, he seemed to be grabbing that young girl's ass while she was dancing. My guess is that sex, not alcohol, was his primary motivating factor. The look on his face was a clear giveaway to me. So once again, my educated guess is that he was driven to this by sex urges more than alcohol ,which was certainly partially responsible. Male menopause? The above is not an all knowing proclamation, consider it a very strong hunch. One more comment about alchol: It is a very strange chemical in that it causes so many of us to react in so many ways. Examples: If you take a given person who is a drinker and look at the craziest, most out of character thing he or she ever did, was alcohol involved? My guess is yes, in almost all cases. Now, take a person who almost never drinks and look at the most out of character thing he or he ever did, was alcohol involved? My guess is yes, in a huge majority of cases. Still my opinion remains that Meyer's sexual urges were just so strong that he couldn't control himself and was willing to risk hurting and embarrassing his wife and kids, and that these desires were of course fueled by alcohol. Remember, they were not sneaking off to a motel. Theyn were in public and everyone there had a camera on their phone. I also think that he will land on his feet. Sarkisian pulled a few stunts in his day and now makes 7 or 8 million dollars per year at Texas. Maybe Meyer will be Saban's next reclamation project lol, although I do doubt it. Saban freely admits that he is afraid of his wife and I am sure that Mrs. Saban would be too thrilled. Sorry for the rant, jmo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QCity Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: It is hard for me to understand how Meyer was able to win as much as he did. College ball is less about coaching and more about recruiting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, QCity said: College ball is less about coaching and more about recruiting. As the Jacksonville Jaguars are now discovering, to their dismay… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 hours ago, Ayjent said: You would like to think it would impact his chances, and maybe it will with some programs, but Urban Meyer wins national championships and honestly that means some decent program desperate to regain glory will take him. It's really that simple. This stuff will blow over after a little time, and he will be a hot commodity before you know it. Whether he has the "heart" to get back into it is a different story. He won a national championship 7 years ago. He's not going to win another, unless Saban were to retire and Meyer walked onto Bama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He won a national championship 7 years ago. He's not going to win another, unless Saban were to retire and Meyer walked onto Bama. I don't think winning is his goal anymore. His goal is to get as much guaranteed money, then find a way to do little-to-nothing to earn it. He is a supreme douche. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) I think the reason why many college coaches fail in the NFL is that they actually aren't great coaches. Guys like Meyer probably aren't terrible, but IMO they are middle of the road coaches who can recruit the best players at the big name programs and therefore win almost every game due to having a huge talent advantage. That obviously doesn't work in the NFL, thus Meyer's comment that "every week is Alabama." NFL ball is about schemes, strategy, and execution of a game plan. You'll get a few games a year where if you have a Super Bowl contender team you have an easy week, but most teams are about even talent-wise. Chip Kelly actually had a winning record in 3 years in Philly, so I would say that proves he's a pretty good football coach. I think Nick Saban being right around .500 in Miami with guys like Cleo Lemon and Joey Harrington at QB proves he is truly a good football coach. Urban Meyer seems like a guy who needs that distinct talent advantage, otherwise he is exposed and walks away when things get tough. Edited October 6, 2021 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I don't think winning is his goal anymore. His goal is to get as much guaranteed money, then find a way to do little-to-nothing to earn it. He is a supreme douche. Always has been. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan says head coach Urban Meyer must 'regain our trust' after 'inexcusable' video https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/sport/urban-meyer-jacksonville-jaguars-shad-khan-spt-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorgus Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: I think the reason why many college coaches fail in the NFL is that they actually aren't great coaches. Guys like Meyer probably aren't terrible, but IMO they are middle of the road coaches who can recruit the best players at the big name programs and therefore win almost every game due to having a huge talent advantage. That obviously doesn't work in the NFL, thus Meyer's comment that "every week is Alabama." NFL ball is about schemes, strategy, and execution of a game plan. You'll get a few games a year where if you have a Super Bowl contender team you have an easy week, but most teams are about even talent-wise. Chip Kelly actually had a winning record in 3 years in Philly, so I would say that proves he's a pretty good football coach. I think Nick Saban being right around .500 in Miami with guys like Cleo Lemon and Joey Harrington at QB proves he is truly a good football coach. Urban Meyer seems like a guy who needs that distinct talent advantage, otherwise he is exposed and walks away when things get tough. Where were you when Urban was doing all this at the bar? It's literally your job to stop him! 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: I think the reason why many college coaches fail in the NFL is that they actually aren't great coaches. Guys like Meyer probably aren't terrible, but IMO they are middle of the road coaches who can recruit the best players at the big name programs and therefore win almost every game due to having a huge talent advantage. That obviously doesn't work in the NFL, thus Meyer's comment that "every week is Alabama." NFL ball is about schemes, strategy, and execution of a game plan. You'll get a few games a year where if you have a Super Bowl contender team you have an easy week, but most teams are about even talent-wise. Chip Kelly actually had a winning record in 3 years in Philly, so I would say that proves he's a pretty good football coach. I think Nick Saban being right around .500 in Miami with guys like Cleo Lemon and Joey Harrington at QB proves he is truly a good football coach. Urban Meyer seems like a guy who needs that distinct talent advantage, otherwise he is exposed and walks away when things get tough. Mostly agree here. College and the NFL are totally different animals. Chip Kelly sucked, though. He had a talented Eagles team when he got there and he totally ruined it. It was kind of Bill O'Brien-esque. He hasn't done anything with UCLA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Chip Kelly sucked, though. He had a talented Eagles team when he got there and he totally ruined it. It was kind of Bill O'Brien-esque. He hasn't done anything with UCLA. Yeah he royally destroyed that Eagles team, in what universe do you trade LeSean McCoy for Kiko Alonso and trade FOR Sam Bradford??! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He won a national championship 7 years ago. He's not going to win another, unless Saban were to retire and Meyer walked onto Bama. How many times was he in the BCS championship, Conference Title Game and Top 10 in his entire career? He's a successful college program coach - and he could be successful wherever he goes - he's a great recruiter. He may not win another but he could certainly be in the conversation every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Gugny said: I don't think winning is his goal anymore. His goal is to get as much guaranteed tang as he can before he can’t get it up anymore Fixed that for ya 🤜 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Not Urban Meyer related, but the thread title makes me need to share this. When we moved to Sarasota, FL in 1993 I didn’t yet have a dish to catch games. There was a new sports bar by day/meat market by night about a 5 minute walk from the house named Gecko’s (the original one in The Landings now closed, for the locals). Our oldest son was was about 6-7 years old at the time and he insisted on seeing the Bills games with me. I know, a kid at a bar, even a sports bar, may not win me any parenting awards. HEY! I’m raising Bills fans, doing the best I can! They have a drawing every quarter, and I’m thinking it must be rigged because my cute son wins more than a statistician would expect. Unfortunately, the prizes he was collecting were…..a tad bit inappropriate. Not ideal to be giving a 7 year old Budweiser cozies or Jack Daniels hats. I used to hand them out to people in the bar who were…..NOT 7 years old. I had to draw the line when he won a tee-shirt with a Gecko on front (think of the little Geico guy) kicking a ball thru the upright and a caption that read “Gecko’s - the easiest place to score!” THAT led to a whole bunch of questions I had no desire to get into with a 7 year old during a Bills game! Sorry, but every time I saw the thread title I thought of that. I hope this relieves me of that obsession! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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