Abortion Basically Illegal In Texas Now

[Governor]

21 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Eddie got me into playing guitar.  But they're a couple of my favorites, yes.

 

 

I showed him that he was duped by his masters last year, at a critical juncture in the Wuhan virus epidemic.  It's a bitter pill to swallow so denial seems to be his defense mechanism. 

My friend collects those old Kramers from the 80’s. He loves those things.

[SectionC3]

28 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I am happy to correct any grammatical issues my posts have if it opens up a slight chance of stopping you from being such a repetitive bore.  What you are doing here isn't "work", unless acting like a divisive @ss is a job.  

 

Edit to add that if mocking grammar and screen names is your only game, maybe you should shut up and listen for awhile. 

I didn’t realize that you are such a snowflake.  Maybe I should include in my work information about the perils of consuming cheap whiskey. I’m guessing you guzzle that stuff, chow down on red meat as much as you can, and will munch some HCQ/ivermectin with “Doc,” but won’t get the COVID vax because of your “concern about what goes in your body.”  One of those meal team six guys who has never met a Big Mac he didn’t like but won’t get the vax for “health” reasons. 

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, Governor said:

My friend collects those old Kramers from the 80’s. He loves those things.

 

I always wanted to get one, but again the cost.  I can easily afford it but I can't justify spending that much, especially when it won't allow me to play like them.

[SectionC3]

40 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

After the grammar deputy wraps up that crime scene, we can send the punctuation and sentence structure police your way.

 

🙄

Looks like we have a grammarian on our hands here.  Excellent news.  I look forward to your input. 

[Doc]

25 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I didn’t realize that you are such a snowflake.  Maybe I should include in my work information about the perils of consuming cheap whiskey. I’m guessing you guzzle that stuff, chow down on red meat as much as you can, and will munch some HCQ/ivermectin with “Doc,” but won’t get the COVID vax because of your “concern about what goes in your body.”  One of those meal team six guys who has never met a Big Mac he didn’t like but won’t get the vax for “health” reasons. 

 

Yes because a vaccine that has been around for 9 months has proven long-term safety versus 2 drugs that have been around for decades, one of which people are on daily for decades.  Never mind that treatment is limited.  Good one.

[SectionC3]

18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yes because a vaccine that has been around for 9 months has proven long-term safety versus 2 drugs that have been around for decades, one of which people are on daily for decades.  Never mind that treatment is limited.  Good one.

Doesn’t work for COVID.   You know that.  Side effects aren’t worth the “taking” of the drug for that purpose.  This is why we have to keep harping on the HCQ issue. 

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

I didn’t realize that you are such a snowflake.  Maybe I should include in my work information about the perils of consuming cheap whiskey. I’m guessing you guzzle that stuff, chow down on red meat as much as you can, and will munch some HCQ/ivermectin with “Doc,” but won’t get the COVID vax because of your “concern about what goes in your body.”  One of those meal team six guys who has never met a Big Mac he didn’t like but won’t get the vax for “health” reasons. 

You caught me, I am a total snowflake.  Douche bags trigger me. But I was probably vaccinated long before you, because I wasn't afraid of a vaccine produced under the Trump administration.   But it was a personal choice that I am happy I made. 

 

Let's start a counter for you, beginning with the above post:

HCQ - 1

Chef Jom Crow - 0

[Motorin']

17 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

So let’s clear a few things up about the Texas abortion bill. It’s not a ban on abortion. It just reduces the amount of time people have to get one. And it does something else that I think is proximate cause of the freakout: it allows private citizens to sue if people violate the law. As I understand it, providers won’t be arrested or face any jail time, they just could find themselves sued for up to 10K.

 

Of course Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats are rushing to codify Roe v. Wade into law so it’s not at the mercy of the courts, but I don’t sense a ton of passion behind their efforts. The overreach — their associated bill would basically allow abortion on demand up to the time of birth — is always a sign they think they may have lost and are just Hail-Marying to appease their constituents and donors.

 

 

 

https://redstate.com/slee/2021/09/03/marble-halls-silver-screens-with-sarah-lee-ep-103-the-texas-heartbeat-bill-only-murders-in-the-building-and-hollywood-abortion-activism-edition-n437548

 

 

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Several states are already considering following Texas' lead on SB8

 

FTA

On top of these efforts you can bet that the national media which is probably 95% pro-abortion will try to help the Democrats turn this into a positive for 2022. Simply put, both sides in this cultural forever war are too invested to admit defeat, at least for now.

 

Texas has shaken up this 48-year-old stalemate but this isn’t over yet.

 

The pro-abortion empire will strike back.

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/09/03/several-states-are-already-considering-following-texas-lead-on-sb8-n413620

 

 

 

 

Just playing this logic through. So if there are states that haven't repealed their anti-homosexuality laws, or their anti-race mixing laws, they could in theory follow suit and pass laws that make being gay or dating outside ones race punishable by civil suit.

 

And an army of deputized citizens could roam the land looking to sue anyone they think is gay or dating or dating outside their race...

 

Realistically, Texas is asserting that the law of the land doesn't apply in their state. We fought a war over this principal. 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Just playing this logic through. So if there are states that haven't repealed their anti-homosexuality laws, or their anti-race mixing laws, they could in theory follow suit and pass laws that make being gay or dating outside ones race punishable by civil suit.

 

And an army of deputized citizens could roam the land looking to sue anyone they think is gay or dating or dating outside their race...

 

Realistically, Texas is asserting that the law of the land doesn't apply in their state. We fought a war over this principal. 

 

Which war? 

[Motorin']

19 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Which war? 

 

The war of Northern aggression.  

[SectionC3]

58 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

You caught me, I am a total snowflake.  Douche bags trigger me. But I was probably vaccinated long before you, because I wasn't afraid of a vaccine produced under the Trump administration.   But it was a personal choice that I am happy I made. 

 

Let's start a counter for you, beginning with the above post:

HCQ - 1

Chef Jom Crow - 0

 

Keep an eye on your blood pressure.  It's not healthy to get triggered by Internet randos.  I'd hate to see what happens when the Girl Scouts knock on your door to sell cookies. 

 

Also, you spelled "Chef Jim Crow" incorrectly.  FYI. 

52 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Just playing this logic through. So if there are states that haven't repealed their anti-homosexuality laws, or their anti-race mixing laws, they could in theory follow suit and pass laws that make being gay or dating outside ones race punishable by civil suit.

 

And an army of deputized citizens could roam the land looking to sue anyone they think is gay or dating or dating outside their race...

 

Realistically, Texas is asserting that the law of the land doesn't apply in their state. We fought a war over this principal. 

 

 

I totally agree with all of this.  The point of the law, though, is to give SCOTUS the chance to revisit Roe.  

[Governor]

26 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

The war of Northern aggression.  

I’m extremely aggressive.

[Motorin']

21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I totally agree with all of this.  The point of the law, though, is to give SCOTUS the chance to revisit Roe.  

 

Texas is going to lose badly. When the dust settles, Texas is not going to be allowed to pass laws that they absolve themselves from being responsible for. 

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

Texas doesn't lose. The country loses. 

The religious right (the taliban of North America) has forced their controls on everyone. I am surprised that a portion of tax dollars don't go to the church, or at least donations gave a double deduction. That is next.

Awe, Jim and Tammy Fae, bring back the good old days.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

The war of Northern aggression.  

I was told suggesting state’s rights had anything to do with it is sugarcoating  

[Unforgiven]

56 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Texas is going to lose badly. When the dust settles, Texas is not going to be allowed to pass laws that they absolve themselves from being responsible for. 

 

 

lefties/liberals are going to lose badly, your heyday is over. Peeps have had enough of the vile anger

and childish behavior.

[LeviF]

51 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Texas doesn't lose. The country loses. 

The religious right (the taliban of North America) has forced their controls on everyone. 

When do I get my machine guns and Blackhawk?

[Motorin']

17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I was told suggesting state’s rights had anything to do with it is sugarcoating  

 

You have a habit I've noticed of finding flaws in bad arguments and then applying the consequences of those flaws in other contexts in which they do not hold. 

 

The argument that the Civil War was not about slavery bc it was about states rights is as bad as the argument that the Civil War wasn't about states right bc it was about slavery.

 

The Civil War was over the south's assertion that state rights supercede federal law in general, with the practice of slavery being the major issue the south asserted it's right to.

 

The South lost. States do not have the right the enact laws that disregard federal law. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 4, 2021 by Motorin'

[SoCal Deek]

58 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Texas doesn't lose. The country loses. 

The religious right (the taliban of North America) has forced their controls on everyone. I am surprised that a portion of tax dollars don't go to the church, or at least donations gave a double deduction. That is next.

Awe, Jim and Tammy Fae, bring back the good old days.

How does this discussion have anything to do with your life up in Canada? Hang out your shingle and start providing abortions. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

14 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

You have a habit I've noticed of finding flaws in bad arguments and then applying the consequences of those flaws in other contexts in which they do not hold. 

 

The argument that the Civil War was not about slavery bc it was about states rights is as bad as the argument that the Civil War wasn't about states right bc it was about slavery.

 

The Civil War was over the south's assertion that state rights supercede federal law in general, with the practice of slavery being the major issue the south asserted it's right to.

 

The South lost. States do not have the right the enact laws that disregard federal law. 

 

 

 

 

So states shouldn’t be allowed to legalize marijuana, right? 

 

Hypocrisy and conveniently conditional principles is what I tend to have a problem with. 

Obviously the south lost but the verdict of that war wasn’t that states are disallowed to govern themselves. 
 

until they can figure out a way to come up with something most agree with and put it in the constitution, this topic will swing like a pendulum. 

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

Texas is going to lose badly. When the dust settles, Texas is not going to be allowed to pass laws that they absolve themselves from being responsible for. 

 

 

I think they may get a trim of Roe as a compromise, but I largely agree with you.  Roberts has time to work on Kavanaugh and Barrett. 

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Doesn’t work for COVID.   You know that.  Side effects aren’t worth the “taking” of the drug for that purpose.  This is why we have to keep harping on the HCQ issue. 

 

What I know, and knew from the beginning (besides that it works), is that HCQ was safe.  You even admitted it was safe.  So reverting back to the "side effects" argument is interesting.  If not very telling.

[Niagara Bill]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

How does this discussion have anything to do with your life up in Canada? Hang out your shingle and start providing abortions. 

Hey Dude, go wax a board, but watch for the great whites,

 

Ps, we have the same right extremes who the Lord says no to both abortion and masks.

4 hours ago, LeviF said:

When do I get my machine guns and Blackhawk?

The Taliban gave lots

[BillStime]

Bingo

 

 

[SectionC3]

14 hours ago, Doc said:

 

What I know, and knew from the beginning (besides that it works), is that HCQ was safe.  You even admitted it was safe.  So reverting back to the "side effects" argument is interesting.  If not very telling.

 

Hoax.  Safe and effective are two different things.  And safe is relative; it does not mean perfect.  You know as well as anyone that there are side effects associated with HCQ, some of which are significant.  So instead of questioning the efficacy and utility of the drug for this purpose, you promoted its wanton, random use, including as a prophylactic.  "Just enough to keep me safe" was your quote.  Unfortunately, your foolishness contributed to a false sense of security for those who took the drug as a defense mechanism.  And, sadly, giving the COVID patients the drug indiscriminately distracted from what could have been effective treatments and exposed said patients to an unnecessary risk of harm.  

 

So, sadly, that is why I must continue my work here.  If one less person relies on the hoaxy medical advice of "Doc," then I have done my job.  Until then, sir, lay off the HCQ and try not to take too much horse dewormer with breakfast. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Hoax.  Safe and effective are two different things.  And safe is relative; it does not mean perfect.  You know as well as anyone that there are side effects associated with HCQ, some of which are significant.  So instead of questioning the efficacy and utility of the drug for this purpose, you promoted its wanton, random use, including as a prophylactic.  "Just enough to keep me safe" was your quote.  Unfortunately, your foolishness contributed to a false sense of security for those who took the drug as a defense mechanism.  And, sadly, giving the COVID patients the drug indiscriminately distracted from what could have been effective treatments and exposed said patients to an unnecessary risk of harm.  

 

So, sadly, that is why I must continue my work here.  If one less person relies on the hoaxy medical advice of "Doc," then I have done my job.  Until then, sir, lay off the HCQ and try not to take too much horse dewormer with breakfast. 

 

LOL!  "Does not mean perfect."  Well then, let's stop administering vaccines!  They aren't perfectly safe according to your silly standards.  They're as "unsafe" as HCQ.  Actually they could be even more unsafe judging by the fact that we've heard about a lot of cases of adverse effects from them, yet not a single report of someone being harmed, much less dying, from taking an appropriate dose of HCQ (and again, millions of people are on it daily and have been for years and you don't see any commercials by other ambulance chasers trying to get people to sue).  And considering the Dems/medias lies about HCQ, you'd figure there would be many, right? 

 

I've already pointed-out the study that was properly done that showed HCQ was effective.  No, it's not a "magic bullet" and no one ever claimed it would be.  But, since we know it's safe, even if it saved 10%, that's worth it, right?  Again I'm talking mostly in the early stages when we had nothing else.

 

Your bolded line has no basis in reality.  Show me these people who took HCQ and then got Wuhan virus because they thought they were invincible.  They're about as many as those who don't have any form of ID for voting.  Meanwhile other treatments were being sought, so that statement is just dumb.

 

Look, you've been duped.  There's no shame in admitting it once it's happened.  The shame is in continuing to allow yourself to be duped.  Because then you just look like a fool.  The people who have duped you don't care.  You were just a useful idiot to them to get Trump out of, and their idiot in, office.  And now we're paying the price.  Great job, Gibbons!

[SectionC3]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  "Does not mean perfect."  Well then, let's stop administering vaccines!  They aren't perfectly safe according to your silly standards.  They're as "unsafe" as HCQ.  Actually they could be even more unsafe judging by the fact that we've heard about a lot of cases of adverse effects from them, yet not a single report of someone being harmed, much less dying, from taking an appropriate dose of HCQ (and again, millions of people are on it daily and have been for years and you don't see any commercials by other ambulance chasers trying to get people to sue).  And considering the Dems/medias lies about HCQ, you'd figure there would be many, right? 

 

I've already pointed-out the study that was properly done that showed HCQ was effective.  No, it's not a "magic bullet" and no one ever claimed it would be.  But, since we know it's safe, even if it saved 10%, that's worth it, right?  Again I'm talking mostly in the early stages when we had nothing else.

 

Your bolded line has no basis in reality.  Show me these people who took HCQ and then got Wuhan virus because they thought they were invincible.  They're about as many as those who don't have any form of ID for voting.  Meanwhile other treatments were being sought, so that statement is just dumb.

 

Look, you've been duped.  There's no shame in admitting it once it's happened.  The shame is in continuing to allow yourself to be duped.  Because then you just look like a fool.  The people who have duped you don't care.  You were just a useful idiot to them to get Trump out of, and their idiot in, office.  And now we're paying the price.  Great job, Gibbons!

 

What's dumb is saying that HCQ was both a prophylactic and an effective treatment with respect to COVID.  It's plain stupid.  Untested, unproven.  And yet something for which "Doc" advocated.  He even said he took enough to keep himself safe.  How that works is beyond me, since the drug was never proven to have efficacy with respect to COVID. What's telling is that you've never attached your name, nor to my knowledge, has any physician attached his or her name, publicly to the position you take with respect to the utility of HCQ as a COVID-fighting mechanism. 

 

Maybe you'll find another "miracle drug."  Could be Ivermectin.  Could be Flintstones vitamins.  Could be something Ponce de Leon put in a vault.  Either way, your advocacy for HCQ as a treatment for COVID was and is straight BS.  You know it. I know it.  And I'll make sure that we don't forget about it.  

[B-Man]

Back to the thread.......

 

REMINDER:

 

 

No, Texas's New Law Does Not Ban Abortions - Or Even A Majority Of Them

 

 

After the Supreme Court declined the ACLU’s request to block SB8, the new Texas law, which bans abortion after a baby’s heartbeat is detected, went into effect in the state immediately.  Almost predictably, the left went into a total meltdown, suggesting that this was an all-out ban on abortions, which it very much isn’t. 

 

Liberals and Progressives alike complained that this law was somehow an affront to women everywhere (you know, after they have spent the last four years telling us to call them “birthing persons”), claiming that the majority of abortions occur after a heartbeat is detected.

 

Well, that’s just not true.  In fact, the vast majority of abortions occur within the first 10 weeks of pregnancy, and a plurality within the first six weeks.

 

According to Abort83.com, a site that compiles abortion statistics, a maximum of 40.5% of abortions occurs within the first six weeks of pregnancy, which in Texas are all still legal.  In weeks 7-9, another 37.5% of abortions take place. In total, 78% of all abortions take place before the beginning of week 10.

 

While heartbeats can possibly be detected as early as weeks 6 or 7, WebMD states that the majority of doctors don’t test until after eight weeks with ultrasound, and not until 12 weeks with fetal doppler. If we attribute half of the week 7-9 abortions as a split, that would be 18.75%. That would suggest that 59.25% of all abortions occur before a heartbeat is even detected, which, again, is still legal in Texas.

 

While the law contains a requirement for doctors to verify a heartbeat before an abortion is performed, it does not specify how that verification must take place. If doctors chose to verify by doppler (and you know there will be some who want to skirt the intent of the law, just like this despicable clinic Mike Miller wrote about), it would extend the potential for abortions past 10 weeks, leading to the potential of 80% of the abortions taking place previously to continue.

 

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021/09/03/no-the-texas-law-does-not-ban-abortions-or-even-a-majority-of-them-n437269

 

https://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

What's dumb is saying that HCQ was both a prophylactic and an effective treatment with respect to COVID.  It's plain stupid.  Untested, unproven.  And yet something for which "Doc" advocated.  He even said he took enough to keep himself safe.  How that works is beyond me, since the drug was never proven to have efficacy with respect to COVID. What's telling is that you've never attached your name, nor to my knowledge, has any physician attached his or her name, publicly to the position you take with respect to the utility of HCQ as a COVID-fighting mechanism. 

 

Maybe you'll find another "miracle drug."  Could be Ivermectin.  Could be Flintstones vitamins.  Could be something Ponce de Leon put in a vault.  Either way, your advocacy for HCQ as a treatment for COVID was and is straight BS.  You know it. I know it.  And I'll make sure that we don't forget about it.  

 

Truer words have never been spoken.  And with that damning admission, my work here is done.

 

[Doc]

45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Back to the thread.......

 

REMINDER:

 

 

No, Texas's New Law Does Not Ban Abortions - Or Even A Majority Of Them

 

 

After the Supreme Court declined the ACLU’s request to block SB8, the new Texas law, which bans abortion after a baby’s heartbeat is detected, went into effect in the state immediately.  Almost predictably, the left went into a total meltdown, suggesting that this was an all-out ban on abortions, which it very much isn’t. 

 

Liberals and Progressives alike complained that this law was somehow an affront to women everywhere (you know, after they have spent the last four years telling us to call them “birthing persons”), claiming that the majority of abortions occur after a heartbeat is detected.

 

Well, that’s just not true.  In fact, the vast majority of abortions occur within the first 10 weeks of pregnancy, and a plurality within the first six weeks.

 

According to Abort83.com, a site that compiles abortion statistics, a maximum of 40.5% of abortions occurs within the first six weeks of pregnancy, which in Texas are all still legal.  In weeks 7-9, another 37.5% of abortions take place. In total, 78% of all abortions take place before the beginning of week 10.

 

While heartbeats can possibly be detected as early as weeks 6 or 7, WebMD states that the majority of doctors don’t test until after eight weeks with ultrasound, and not until 12 weeks with fetal doppler. If we attribute half of the week 7-9 abortions as a split, that would be 18.75%. That would suggest that 59.25% of all abortions occur before a heartbeat is even detected, which, again, is still legal in Texas.

 

While the law contains a requirement for doctors to verify a heartbeat before an abortion is performed, it does not specify how that verification must take place. If doctors chose to verify by doppler (and you know there will be some who want to skirt the intent of the law, just like this despicable clinic Mike Miller wrote about), it would extend the potential for abortions past 10 weeks, leading to the potential of 80% of the abortions taking place previously to continue.

 

https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2021/09/03/no-the-texas-law-does-not-ban-abortions-or-even-a-majority-of-them-n437269

 

https://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

 

Don't listen, don't tell.  Simple.

[SectionC3]

48 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Truer words have never been spoken.  And with that damning admission, my work here is done.

 

Exactly what you said when trump  told you HCQ was an effective treatment for COVID.  My work here is done.  Let me know when you have something from the relevant scientific community to back up your garbage position about HCQ’s COVID efficacy.  Until then, good luck with the horse dewormer. 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Exactly what you said when trump  told you HCQ was an effective treatment for COVID.  My work here is done.  Let me know when you have something from the relevant scientific community to back up your garbage position about HCQ’s COVID efficacy.  Until then, good luck with the horse dewormer. 

 SectionC3

 

 

 

 

Meanwhile back at the thread,

 

 

Texas Is the Reason

By Kathryn Lopez

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/kathrynlopez/2021/09/04/texas-is-the-reason-n2595294

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

14 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Hoax.  Safe and effective are two different things.  And safe is relative; it does not mean perfect.  You know as well as anyone that there are side effects associated with HCQ, some of which are significant.  So instead of questioning the efficacy and utility of the drug for this purpose, you promoted its wanton, random use, including as a prophylactic.  "Just enough to keep me safe" was your quote.  Unfortunately, your foolishness contributed to a false sense of security for those who took the drug as a defense mechanism.  And, sadly, giving the COVID patients the drug indiscriminately distracted from what could have been effective treatments and exposed said patients to an unnecessary risk of harm.  

 

So, sadly, that is why I must continue my work here.  If one less person relies on the hoaxy medical advice of "Doc," then I have done my job.  Until then, sir, lay off the HCQ and try not to take too much horse dewormer with breakfast. 

My vaccine was put improperly into my arm and caused my much pain, does that make it not worthwhile? HCQ is good for lungs as a preventative measure against infections that stiffen the tissue of the lungs. My uncle took it for year many times (50+)while working in India in the 1980s 

[Governor]

On 9/4/2021 at 1:27 PM, Niagara Bill said:

Texas doesn't lose. The country loses. 

The religious right (the taliban of North America) has forced their controls on everyone. I am surprised that a portion of tax dollars don't go to the church, or at least donations gave a double deduction. That is next.

Awe, Jim and Tammy Fae, bring back the good old days.

There’s a lot of moving parts but what’s very clear is that 70 percent of the country doesn’t like the 30 percent and continues to marginalize them, which is causing them to lash out. 
 

It will turn to violence soon. There’s no doubt in my mind that the North will be putting the squeeze on the South real soon. 
 

The GOP abandoned democracy and that’s made it impossible for a healthy multi-party political system. As the party continues to shrink, it’s only going to get worse, until something is finally done.
 

Their goal now is to take control by force, an Apartheid, and that’s going to be met with force. 
 

It won’t start out with bombs. It will start with the removal of federal funding, starving these states out, to change political behavior. 

 

Truth is, these states don’t have any industry and they’ll just need to be put in check. They can’t sustain themselves.

 

It wouldn’t take much to turn DeSantis into AOC in a matter of weeks if we took the money away and they couldn’t run on lowering your taxes every election cycle and quit the nonsense. 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by Governor

[Niagara Bill]

6 hours ago, Governor said:

There’s a lot of moving parts but what’s very clear is that 70 percent of the country doesn’t like the 30 percent and continues to marginalize them, which is causing them to lash out. 
 

It will turn to violence soon. There’s no doubt in my mind that the North will be putting the squeeze on the South real soon. 
 

The GOP abandoned democracy and that’s made it impossible for a healthy multi-party political system. As the party continues to shrink, it’s only going to get worse, until something is finally done.
 

Their goal now is to take control by force, an Apartheid, and that’s going to be met with force. 
 

It won’t start out with bombs. It will start with the removal of federal funding, starving these states out, to change political behavior. 

 

Truth is, these states don’t have any industry and they’ll just need to be put in check. They can’t sustain themselves.

 

It wouldn’t take much to turn DeSantis into AOC in a matter of weeks if we took the money away and they couldn’t run on lowering your taxes every election cycle and quit the nonsense. 

 

 

Interesting thoughts!

What I cannot understand is the need for religion to force itself on others. 

If you do not believe in something, do not do it.

We have long established in western cultures that murder is wrong, that stoning is assault, that a justice system is the way of dealing with outside activities, that private holdings are ok, that selling of daughters is wrong, that women are equal, that all people are free to practice their religion, as long ss it fits inside the parameters of our law.

Abortion is like the final piece after 200 years. Most of society accepts the need and we are just looking for the exact point of acceptance. Some do not want to show flexibility. Sounds alot like ISIS. They have been fighting infidels since the crusades.  

Our society in Western cultures has so many problems today, drugs, gangs, poverty, the 1%, etc. Why oh why do supposedly intelligent people have to hide behind a religious issue with where thought goes out the window. 

 

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Interesting thoughts!

What I cannot understand is the need for religion to force itself on others. 

If you do not believe in something, do not do it.

We have long established in western cultures that murder is wrong, that stoning is assault, that a justice system is the way of dealing with outside activities, that private holdings are ok, that selling of daughters is wrong, that women are equal, that all people are free to practice their religion, as long ss it fits inside the parameters of our law.

Abortion is like the final piece after 200 years. Most of society accepts the need and we are just looking for the exact point of acceptance. Some do not want to show flexibility. Sounds alot like ISIS. They have been fighting infidels since the crusades.  

Our society in Western cultures has so many problems today, drugs, gangs, poverty, the 1%, etc. Why oh why do supposedly intelligent people have to hide behind a religious issue with where thought goes out the window. 

 

Religious issue? Abortion isn’t a religious issue. 

[Niagara Bill]

20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Religious issue? Abortion isn’t a religious issue. 

Your point may have some validity today, but I think it  primarily comes from that base.

"Imagine all the people

Living life in peace"

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

7 hours ago, Governor said:

There’s a lot of moving parts but what’s very clear is that 70 percent of the country doesn’t like the 30 percent and continues to marginalize them, which is causing them to lash out. 
 

It will turn to violence soon. There’s no doubt in my mind that the North will be putting the squeeze on the South real soon. 
 

The GOP abandoned democracy and that’s made it impossible for a healthy multi-party political system. As the party continues to shrink, it’s only going to get worse, until something is finally done.
 

Their goal now is to take control by force, an Apartheid, and that’s going to be met with force. 
 

It won’t start out with bombs. It will start with the removal of federal funding, starving these states out, to change political behavior. 

 

Truth is, these states don’t have any industry and they’ll just need to be put in check. They can’t sustain themselves.

 

It wouldn’t take much to turn DeSantis into AOC in a matter of weeks if we took the money away and they couldn’t run on lowering your taxes every election cycle and quit the nonsense. 

 

 

And murder hornets, let’s not forget about the GOP and murder hornets. 

[ComradeKayAdams]

8 hours ago, Governor said:

There’s a lot of moving parts but what’s very clear is that 70 percent of the country doesn’t like the 30 percent and continues to marginalize them, which is causing them to lash out. 
 

It will turn to violence soon. There’s no doubt in my mind that the North will be putting the squeeze on the South real soon. 
 

The GOP abandoned democracy and that’s made it impossible for a healthy multi-party political system. As the party continues to shrink, it’s only going to get worse, until something is finally done.
 

Their goal now is to take control by force, an Apartheid, and that’s going to be met with force. 
 

It won’t start out with bombs. It will start with the removal of federal funding, starving these states out, to change political behavior. 

 

Truth is, these states don’t have any industry and they’ll just need to be put in check. They can’t sustain themselves.

 

It wouldn’t take much to turn DeSantis into AOC in a matter of weeks if we took the money away and they couldn’t run on lowering your taxes every election cycle and quit the nonsense. 

 

Strong-arm tactics are completely unnecessary when your opposition commits political suicide on the national stage.

 

As far as political strategy discussion goes, the only interesting question is what to do about the Supreme Court?

 

As far as abortion policy discussion goes, yeah I think we’re done here.

[snafu]

9 hours ago, Governor said:

There’s a lot of moving parts but what’s very clear is that 70 percent of the country doesn’t like the 30 percent and continues to marginalize them, which is causing them to lash out. 
 

It will turn to violence soon. There’s no doubt in my mind that the North will be putting the squeeze on the South real soon. 
 

The GOP abandoned democracy and that’s made it impossible for a healthy multi-party political system. As the party continues to shrink, it’s only going to get worse, until something is finally done.
 

Their goal now is to take control by force, an Apartheid, and that’s going to be met with force. 
 

It won’t start out with bombs. It will start with the removal of federal funding, starving these states out, to change political behavior. 

 

Truth is, these states don’t have any industry and they’ll just need to be put in check. They can’t sustain themselves.

 

It wouldn’t take much to turn DeSantis into AOC in a matter of weeks if we took the money away and they couldn’t run on lowering your taxes every election cycle and quit the nonsense. 

 

 

 

 

I’m going to guess this post to be a troll job, since it is so incredibly stupid that nobody who wrote it would possibly believe anything in it.