Abortion Basically Illegal In Texas Now

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha time to dust of the ol war on liberal commie women playbook again.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.............. imagine calling the people that would like you to not kill babies both unborn and born (made to feel comfortable first), sick pucks.

 

Imagine being that evil.  

 

Imagine being this evil - you don't care about life

 

[BillStime]

 

[Governor]

I will now spread my socialist seed throughout Texas to secure electoral victory.

[Sundancer]

6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Ok what is it? 

enlighten the audience and stop hiding by arguing a point literally conceded in the very same post. 

 

You have adequately demonstrated zero understanding of how often women miss their periods and some of the common whys (your first and only suggested reason being menopause: hilarious). 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Sundancer

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

You have adequately demonstrated zero understanding of how often women miss their periods and some of the common whys (your first and only suggested reason being menopause: hilarious). 

 

You keep harping on the same point.
 

It’s been acknowledged your extreme expertise would add tremendous value to this board, if only we could draw it out 😞 
 

So I’ll put you down for 39 weeks?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Governor said:

I will now spread my socialist seed throughout Texas to secure electoral victory.

That’s along the lines of my guess, why this, why now?  They are probably trying to stop the influx of Californian coming into their state.

 

topic aside it’s really interesting how the law was crafted.  No state penalties fines or charges, it just allows private citizens to sue the clinics. I guess that’s why it was the clinics organizing and appealing to the Supreme Court, this could really hurt their revenues and increase operational risk.

[Governor]

47 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

That’s along the lines of my guess, why this, why now?  They are probably trying to stop the influx of Californian coming into their state.

 

topic aside it’s really interesting how the law was crafted.  No state penalties fines or charges, it just allows private citizens to sue the clinics. I guess that’s why it was the clinics organizing and appealing to the Supreme Court, this could really hurt their revenues and increase operational risk.

It will get overturned. This is just Abbott trying out out-DeSantis DeSantis. None of their laws/orders hold up.

 

Ron’s 5k vaccine order won’t hold either. 
 

I should be able to sue parents for having to look at their ugly kids.
 

We should have a similar law for guns also. If I hear that you may own a gun, I’ll sue you.

 

Texas just showed us how to get guns off the street.

Edited September 2, 2021 by Governor

[Big Blitz]

14 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Imagine being this evil - you don't care about life

 

 

 

 

 

Your racism on full display.  

 

Why are you posting pictures of only white kids?  

 

Because you don't care about the black or brown kids.  

 

What an awful human you are.   

 

Racist and low info.  

Edited September 2, 2021 by Big Blitz

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

 

Your racism on full display.  

 

Where are you posting pictures of only white kids?  

 

Because you don't care about the black or brown kids.  

 

What an awful human you are.   

 

Racist and low info.  

Pathetic as usual - making jokes about the massacre of children.

 

You are sick. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

That’s along the lines of my guess, why this, why now?  They are probably trying to stop the influx of Californian coming into their state.

 

topic aside it’s really interesting how the law was crafted.  No state penalties fines or charges, it just allows private citizens to sue the clinics. I guess that’s why it was the clinics organizing and appealing to the Supreme Court, this could really hurt their revenues and increase operational risk.

So the Texas law is using the private sector to do the dirty work?  Where I wonder did they come up with that idea?  Sounds to me the thinking is along the lines of the way the Fed's are using private businesses to enforce vaccine mandates. 

Although I have no strong opinion on the abortion issue I disapprove of the use of the private sector tactic in both cases but I suspect a lot of people that are having fits about the abortion legislation have no issue with enforcing vaccine mandate in a similar manner or visa versa. 

[BillStime]

Yup

 

 

[TSOL]

Trainwreck thread of the year, right here folks 

 

 

[Unforgiven]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

 

Your racism on full display.  

 

Where are you posting pictures of only white kids?  

 

Because you don't care about the black or brown kids.  

 

What an awful human you are.   

 

Racist and low info.  

So his his bestie governor...probably friendless empty disgusting human beings in real life as well.

[Niagara Bill]

As an outsider to the debate of abortion, I have questions.

What is the difference between the Texas right wing religious sects, who are restricting woman's rights and the ISIS/Taliban, who in the name of religion have extreme restrictions on woman's rights.

Seems to me, quite similar, except of course the Texas step is limited today. So far hair style not restricted, or tattoos, or education rights, but!

 

Religion and successful government only results in restrictions. The supporters of these Texas initiatives likely resist masks to safe children's lives.

 

Very strange partnership, only possible using religion as the basis.

[TH3]

What a drag...no matter what side of the abortion issue you are on -  the law as structured is clearly unconstititonal. We have an unhinged Scotus....its too bad...thanks Mitch - you got what you wanted. This is clearly the biggest risk to the republic right now..

[BillStime]

To a tee:

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Just now, TH3 said:

What a drag...no matter what side of the abortion issue you are on -  the law as structured is clearly unconstititonal. We have an unhinged Scotus....its too bad...thanks Mitch - you got what you wanted. This is clearly the biggest risk to the republic right now..

Whut? Now it’s scoutus? Last week it was another thing. Can’t you people fixate on one boogeyman man at a time?

 

How could you forget the deadly insurrection? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

30 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

As an outsider to the debate of abortion, I have questions.

What is the difference between the Texas right wing religious sects, who are restricting woman's rights and the ISIS/Taliban, who in the name of religion have extreme restrictions on woman's rights.

Seems to me, quite similar, except of course the Texas step is limited today. So far hair style not restricted, or tattoos, or education rights, but!

 

Religion and successful government only results in restrictions. The supporters of these Texas initiatives likely resist masks to safe children's lives.

 

Very strange partnership, only possible using religion as the basis.

This is the same logic that gets me so fed up with the political party’s. You aren’t wrong about these connections.

 

Here’s another one.  What’s the difference between vaccine mandates and abortion bans. The protesters on the right side of the one issue have the same signs as the left side of the other….  
 

I can’t see how you’re for one against the other or Vice versa. it makes no dam sense at all, and just shows many humans are just irrational sheep following the herd.
 

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Sundancer]

57 minutes ago, TSOL said:

Trainwreck thread of the year, right here folks 

 

 

 

I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it.  

[BillStime]

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

6 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it.  

It’s even more comical to see posters just argue with themselves over points already conceded or arguing against obvious quips as some insurmountable obstacle toward forwarding a topic because they are the hand wringers of society that point out problems without solutions and are too weak to take stand or assert positions.
 

Dancing around the topic so kudos for an apropos name. 

 

So what your biologically enlightened position on the topic then? 

[B-Man]

 

 

Thread title is incorrect.

 

 

 

 

[TSOL]

36 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it.  

 

 

Irony is a cruel mistress 

[Motorin']

42 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Thread title is incorrect.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, it should read: Texas Deputizes Citizenry to Enforce Anti-Abortion Law...

 

From the Bill:

 

        Sec. 171.208.  CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR

 ABETTING VIOLATION. (a)  Any person, other than an officer or

 employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may

 bring a civil action against any person who:

              (1)  performs or induces an abortion in violation of

 this subchapter;

              (2)  knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets

 the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for

 or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or

 otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of

 this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should

 have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in

 violation of this subchapter; or

              (3)  intends to engage in the conduct described by

 Subdivision (1) or (2).

        (b)  If a claimant prevails in an action brought under this

 section, the court shall award:

              (1)  injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the

 defendant from violating this subchapter or engaging in acts that

 aid or abet violations of this subchapter;

              (2)  statutory damages in an amount of not less than

 $10,000 for each abortion that the defendant performed or induced

 in violation of this subchapter, and for each abortion performed or

 induced in violation of this subchapter that the defendant aided or

 abetted; and

              (3)  costs and attorney's fees.

 

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961

Edited September 2, 2021 by Motorin'

[Tiberius]

20 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

If it 'won't work', whatcha'all upset about?  

 

All this dialogue is what makes us stronger as a nation. 

Just because a criminal doesn't get away with an attempted crime, its no reason to ignore the crime 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

35 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Just because a criminal doesn't get away with an attempted crime, its no reason to ignore the crime 

There is no allegation of a crime here, there is only a debate over how to make our elections as secure as possible.   
 

Dialogue is good!! 
 

Together Everyone Achieves More! 

[Tiberius]

Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There is no allegation of a crime here, there is only a debate over how to make our elections as secure as possible.   
 

Dialogue is good!! 
 

Together Everyone Achieves More! 

It's an institutional crime to try and make it harder for people to vote. Just imagine a Democrat looked at the 2nd Amendment wrong, you might sort of understand in your own way then 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Outrage Over the TX Heartbeat Law Brings out More Bad Takes Than a Roger Corman Movie

By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell 

 

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/09/01/outrage-over-the-tx-heartbeat-law-brings-out-more-bad-takes-than-a-roger-corman-movie-n436649

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's about the money...........

 

 

.

[Governor]

2 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it.  

I would like them to talk about abortion right up to Election Day. Imagine if younger women voted in large numbers in these midterm elections. That’s never happened in my lifetime. 
 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

51 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's an institutional crime to try and make it harder for people to vote. Just imagine a Democrat looked at the 2nd Amendment wrong, you might sort of understand in your own way then 

Is an “institutional crime” a crime from a legal perspective, or just something you like to say?  You lost me with “just imagine…” and then referenced something that wasn’t a crime crime.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

Yeah, it should read: Texas Deputizes Citizenry to Enforce Anti-Abortion Law...

 

From the Bill:

 

        Sec. 171.208.  CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR

 ABETTING VIOLATION. (a)  Any person, other than an officer or

 employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may

 bring a civil action against any person who:

              (1)  performs or induces an abortion in violation of

 this subchapter;

              (2)  knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets

 the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for

 or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or

 otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of

 this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should

 have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in

 violation of this subchapter; or

              (3)  intends to engage in the conduct described by

 Subdivision (1) or (2).

        (b)  If a claimant prevails in an action brought under this

 section, the court shall award:

              (1)  injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the

 defendant from violating this subchapter or engaging in acts that

 aid or abet violations of this subchapter;

              (2)  statutory damages in an amount of not less than

 $10,000 for each abortion that the defendant performed or induced

 in violation of this subchapter, and for each abortion performed or

 induced in violation of this subchapter that the defendant aided or

 abetted; and

              (3)  costs and attorney's fees.

 

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961

Yep much more accurate description of not only what they did, but how they think they dodged the Supreme Court.
 

More political theater and lawyers getting paid.  
 

Now the other lawyers will figure out how to get around it. 

[Governor]

BREAKING: Florida's Senate President announces that they will be passing a model of the Texas abortion law.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

 

it’s confusing 

Edited September 2, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Outrage Over the TX Heartbeat Law Brings out More Bad Takes Than a Roger Corman Movie

By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell 

 

https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/09/01/outrage-over-the-tx-heartbeat-law-brings-out-more-bad-takes-than-a-roger-corman-movie-n436649

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's about the money...........

 

 

.

 

I'm imagination more of a Christopher Guest movie, where a brigade of thousands of Texan citizens start investigating women all over the state in order to sue them, and everyone they've been in a car with, talked on a phone to.

[Tiberius]

45 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Is an “institutional crime” a crime from a legal perspective, or just something you like to say?  You lost me with “just imagine…” and then referenced something that wasn’t a crime crime.  

Its a law aimed at subverTING THE COMMON GOOD. 

[Big Blitz]

Now do guns or sit the f... down 

 

 

 

(Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden said the Supreme Court perpetrated an “assault” on women’s rights in a ruling late Wednesday that allowed new Texas abortion restrictions to take effect, and ordered his administration to try to counter the state law. 

 

“The Supreme Court’s ruling overnight is an unprecedented assault on a woman’s constitutional rights under Roe v. Wade, which has been the law of the land for almost fifty years,” Biden said in a Thursday statement. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-02/biden-orders-response-to-high-court-assault-on-abortion-rights

 

 

 

 

I guess Dems hate democracy 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Its a law aimed at subverTING THE COMMON GOOD. 

What’s “common” and “good” varies based on ones perspective.  What we are up to now is it is not a crime, just something that you don’t like.  
 

As I said when we started here, you’re unhappy that people don’t see things your way.  Get in line.

[Tiberius]

28 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

What’s “common” and “good” varies based on ones perspective.  What we are up to now is it is not a crime, just something that you don’t like.  
 

As I said when we started here, you’re unhappy that people don’t see things your way.  Get in line.

Sure does! Democracy is good or bad, right? Putin don't like it, that's for sure 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

it’s confusing 

Can you spread abortions to grandma?  Anyways, you can make the same argument with pro lifers.  The government shouldn't be able to mandate vaccines because it's people's bodies yet they should be able to regulate woman's bodies by outlawing abortions?  Abortion has always been confusing to me on both sides stances.  

Edited September 2, 2021 by Doc Brown