Bill from NYC Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) The biggest question here is: Does Mac Jones still suck? I remember reading here how he was not worth a first round pick. Edited August 31, 2021 by Bill from NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: McKorkle is way better than Cam, but he’s also the worst QB in the division as of now IMO. Doesn’t mean he won’t be successful but that’s where I’ll rank him today. If Mac is healthy he will outperform the kid on the Jets, and it won't be even a tad close. Of course, this is jmo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I'm not going to read through pages and pages of comments about how bad Cam is. But has anyone considered that since he doesn't have to go through waivers, that this is simply a way for the Pats to get another player through the cutdown and onto the 53, so he can be IR'd and then bring Cam back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 54 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you not remember Tua last year in a must win game completely crap the bed against the Bills back ups? In 2019, we faced two rookie QB's they scored 10 and 3 against us. So basically in the last 5 starts against rookie QB's....here's how much they scored. 26 but with a ton of garbage time points from the Dolphins since we scored 56. 17 against the Chargers. 10 against the Steelers 3 against the Broncos 9 against the Redskins What else can McDermott do? Dude comes up with some weird *****. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s terrible. This sucks! He’s BEEN terrible. Someone just forgot to tell him. 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://nesn.com/video/cam-newton-instagram-hype-video-shows-serious-confidence-ahead-of-2021/ He’s an egotistical POS. He was washed up in Carolina and nobody gave him a call until very late when Bill said ‘screw the Vet Minimum, here’s a mil. Take it or leave it. Hope we never see him again. 2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Cam has been thoroughly washed up for 2+ years. I'm surprised the Pats gave him as much rope as they did. This is definitely the right move for them, and I'm sure Cam will find at least one more team willing to kick the tires on him before he bows out of the league. I agree with the 1st part, not so sure he’ll get another shot. No team wants that kind of ego coming to their team -and his play can’t back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I wonder what percentage of division games against rookie or 2nd year QBs are tough I bet that depends on the rookie. Like Marino would be tough, while Ryan Leaf was an easy W. Lmao Also depends when you are facing them, for example early in the year be earlier to confuse than later in the year. (Unless it’s a Ryan leaf type situation lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I get that, but Brady could--and still can--make those throws and do it well. If all you have to do is defend the middle of the field, the flats, and bombs, it makes it a lot easier for a defense. I am not saying Jones can't make those throws; just that I haven't seen them. Everything has been short stuff, mid-range stuff between the numbers, and the occasional deep loft. I get that, but he is just now starting his career and i found out that some coaches, when they do these preseasons games, they get together and talk what they want each other's team to work on. So at least for the most part that was not what their focus for Jones was on top of the fact Agholor didn't give them the opportunity to make that throw. They did have a 3rd and long to Harry that Harry messed up. a lot of timing routes and just this past game with the Giants...i can't remember if it was Joe Judge or BB, but one of them asked the other to have their team blitz a lot so they could see how their QB handles it. 3 minutes ago, Utah John said: I'm not going to read through pages and pages of comments about how bad Cam is. But has anyone considered that since he doesn't have to go through waivers, that this is simply a way for the Pats to get another player through the cutdown and onto the 53, so he can be IR'd and then bring Cam back? No that is not why they did it, it's nothing to do with circumventing the system. They want to go with the rookie (among other things) and Cam was not going to be the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you not remember Tua last year in a must win game completely crap the bed against the Bills back ups? In 2019, we faced two rookie QB's they scored 10 and 3 against us. So basically in the last 5 starts against rookie QB's....here's how much they scored. 26 but with a ton of garbage time points from the Dolphins since we scored 56. 17 against the Chargers. 10 against the Steelers 3 against the Broncos 9 against the Redskins What else can McDermott do? Never let facts get in the way of a good crusade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: If Mac is healthy he will outperform the kid on the Jets, and it won't be even a tad close. Of course, this is jmo. Disney Channel Zach looks great 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 It's crazy the amount of people assuming Mac Jones will be a good QB. Over 50% of 1st round QBs are busts. Of course Jones has a chance but it's far from certain. I actually would prefer to face Jones than Newton because he offers no running ability which I believe would have been lethal in the Patriots offense this year. Defending them is going to be about crowding the middle of the field, stack the box, try to fool the rookie QB with exotic blitzes. No easy wins in the NFL but nothing about them makes me think they are a playoff team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: It's crazy the amount of people assuming Mac Jones will be a good QB. I agree. I just have a hard time seeing it. I feel like at best he will be no more than average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Disney Channel Zach looks great I swear he was in Brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Disney Channel Zach looks great Even if he is fairly good, Mac is a better player on a better team. Let me take it a step further..... If Alabama and OSU switched QBs in the title game, I think that OSU would have won. Waddle was crippled and Davonta sat out the second half. This is Not, repeat NOT a knock against OSU. No, it is a compliment to their excellent team and specifcally their receivers. In the 2021 draft, I expect Mac to be second only to Trevor Lawrence. Again, jmo. Skip and Shannon did a great piece on the situation today. Shannon talked about how hard Mac works, and other reasons for the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you not remember Tua last year in a must win game completely crap the bed against the Bills back ups? In 2019, we faced two rookie QB's they scored 10 and 3 against us. So basically in the last 5 starts against rookie QB's....here's how much they scored. 26 but with a ton of garbage time points from the Dolphins since we scored 56. 17 against the Chargers. 10 against the Steelers 3 against the Broncos 9 against the Redskins What else can McDermott do? Dolphins 26 vs. Bills 56 January 3rd, 2021 Tua Tagovailoa 35/58 (60%) 361 Yards 1 TD 3 INT 1 Sk 62.5 Rating Chargers 17 vs. Bills 27 November 29th, 2020 Justin Herbert 31/52 (60%) 316 Yards 1 TD 1 INT 3 Sk 75.5 Rating Bills 17 vs. Steelers 10 December 15th, 2019 Devlin Hodges 23/38 (61%) 202 Yards 1 TD 4 INT 4 Sk 43.9 Rating Broncos 3 vs. Bills 20 November 24th, 2019 Brandon Allen 10/25 (40%) 82 Yards 0 TD 1 INT 4 Sk 32.4 Rating Jets 27 vs. Bills 23 December 9th, 2018 Sam Darnold 16/22 (73%) 170 Yards 1 TD 1 INT 0 Sk 83.7 Rating Rookie QBs against McDermott in Buffalo… 1-4 59% Completion 226.2 Y/G 4 TDs 10 INT 12 Sk 59.6 Rating 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Asante Samuel not holding back Not an unfamiliar refrain in NFL circles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P Riv Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: They reported that the 3 reasons Cam was released was 1. COVID 2. Jones out played him and 3. he(CAM) did not really impressed them all that much and geez, if he could be half of Brady i would love that....their receivers (or lack of..) worry me, and i don't see BB really putting an effort into upgrading, or even knowing how to do that. I think he's half of Brady, looked like it in the pre-season. He threw well under duress, threw accurately and ON TIME. That impressed me a lot. Just watched this: FIRST TAKE | Adam Schefter "BREAKING" Patriots release QB Cam Newton; Mac Jones will start at QB - YouTube 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Cam Newton should be SIGNED in Pittsburg to Back up Ben who has 1 foot out the door for the last 5 years and no viable BU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 53 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Tore them up and... still lost 31-21? Teams will put up yards on us. The key though is how many points they actually end up with. Good luck keeping up with the Bills Offense. Early in the 4th quarter last year of week 2 I realized we were playing Fitzmagic. When Josh out dueled him I knew it was gonna be a special year. So Fitz was pretty good last year (granted all the caveats about our defense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: They must have a lot of confidence in Mac. Well Cam missing a game last year due to Covid and this preseason as well and not wanting to get vaccinated maybe had something to do with it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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