ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Just wanted to add, although I'm not as familiar with those 2 signings of Davis and Cole as much as I am with many other players, but the little I do know I certainly would not consider Jets WR core "revamped" by those 2 names. I guess it depends on how one would interpret "revamped" maybe? I always took it to mean new or different players that are significantly better (or thought to be much better) than before. In this case I just don't see those 2 making their WR' group much better, if any at all really. Hell wouldn't surprise me if the WR's Jets had last season turned out to be a little better lol Idk, just my 2 cents Corey Davis, Crowder and Moore is a solid starting three. Add Cole and Mims, and that is better than any WR group JA had to work with his first two seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 That doesn't sound good. I hope he's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, jeremy2020 said: That doesn't sound good. I hope he's ok. hate to hear this about any player, on any team. Hope he is ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Corey Davis, Crowder and Moore is a solid starting three. Add Cole and Mims, and that is better than any WR group JA had to work with his first two seasons. True. But without a good QB and OL, it means little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Doc said: True. But without a good QB and OL, it means little. Agreed, and I loathe the Jets, but hey have been trying to rebuild the OL much in the vein Buffalo did. Actually have spent more draft capital on the OL than Buffalo has. (Becton/ Vera Tucker/ Moore) They also keep bringing in mid tier guys to see if one blooms or regains form. Buffalo did that with Feliciano/ Williams and now Lamp. Never can tell with a rookie QB, but the Jets are trying to do this right for Wilson. I can't knock the strategy. I think the Jets will surprise and win 6-7 games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: That doesn't sound good. I hope he's ok. It's Amazon humid down here today. We got about four inches of rain last night too. So the word of the day is moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This head case has had his chances. If the NFL GMs have any sense, they should escort him o the unemployment line behind Josh Rosen 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Never can tell with a rookie QB, but the Jets are trying to do this right for Wilson. I can't knock the strategy. I think the Jets will surprise and win 6-7 games this year. I don't think 6-7 is a surprise. I think that's what most people expect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I don't think 6-7 is a surprise. I think that's what most people expect. fair enough, I keep forgetting the extra game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Brian Costello on Twitter: "Carl Lawson is being carted off with a leg injury" / Twitter Injury bug hits the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, Greg S said: Brian Costello on Twitter: "Carl Lawson is being carted off with a leg injury" / Twitter Injury bug hits the Jets. Is that field still cursed from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 anyone that wants to watch a live practice between the browns and giants it will be broadcast on the browns youtube channel at 3:30 you can see your AFC championship game opponent in action 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Another Bills cut gets added to a roster .. oh the fond memories of hoping other teams would cut someone who would be useful to the Bills .. it almost is anti-climatic checking other teams cut lists. Caleb Benenoch lands with the Saints. Being good a lot of the players we would hope to land on our PS may end up on other teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/caleb-benenoch-19102/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Wow, Carl Lawson is a big loss for the Jets. Injury sounds serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yep, sucks to be a Jets fan. From all the reports I had seen, Lawson was having a REALLY strong TC for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Info Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: hate to hear this about any player, on any team. Hope he is ok For Andrews it may be hypoglycemia rather than injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: That doesn't sound good. I hope he's ok. Yikes, hope it's not a heat stroke. We all remember Korey Stringer with the Vikings some years ago. I know it's been pretty hot and humid as heck here across the mid-Atlantic for a couple of weeks now. Edited August 19, 2021 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, ThurmanThomasEnglishMuffin said: Corey Davis, Crowder and Moore is a solid starting three. Add Cole and Mims, and that is better than any WR group JA had to work with his first two seasons. Obviously. I never said or implied they were that bad. I was simply saying imo, I don't see them being much better than the WR's they had last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 T Andre Dillard could be available from the Eagles. He's been disappointing for them but he's a heckuva lot better than Bobby Hart. I'd be curious about the cost because it can't be very high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Greg S said: The biggest issue for them is the secondary. Saleh was a good DC with the 49ers and I expect he will have their D playing well. Obviously its preseason and teams go with a vanilla game plan but the Jets have some decent talent on that side of the ball. As for their offense Wilson looked good but again its preseason. I expect he will have his ups and downs like most rookie QB's do. My prediction for them (floor/ceiling) is 6 to 8 wins with their D keeping them in most games. where on earth do the JESTs find 6 wins? Nothing personal, but this feels like a prediction from ESPN where their predictions, total, have the league playing above .500 football (the total number of wins is more than the 256 [now 272] games that will be played). Somebody gotta lose. I dont see the JESTs winning a single division game. And who else can they possibly beat? Edited August 19, 2021 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, maddenboy said: where on earth do the JESTs find 6 wins? Nothing personal, but this feels like a prediction from ESPN where their predictions, total, have the league playing above .500 football (the total number of wins is more than the 256 [now 272] games that will be played). Somebody gotta lose. I dont see the JESTs winning a single division game. And who else can they possibly beat? I agree. They are a good candidate to have #1 pick imo Edited August 19, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Lawson would be a big loss to Jets defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Lawson is having MRI on his Achilles now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, maddenboy said: where on earth do the JESTs find 6 wins? Nothing personal, but this feels like a prediction from ESPN where their predictions, total, have the league playing above .500 football (the total number of wins is more than the 256 [now 272] games that will be played). Somebody gotta lose. I dont see the JESTs winning a single division game. And who else can they possibly beat? Jets aren't going to be as bad as some think and if Saleh is good coach they will definitely upset some teams this year. A few breaks go a different way and they would have beat us last year when we were in a little funk after the Titans and Chiefs losses. With that said they are still probably in that 6 or 7 win range at best this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, syhuang said: Lawson is having MRI on his Achilles now. Damn. That sucks for Lawson and the Jets. Hate to see a serious injury like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Another Bills cut gets added to a roster .. oh the fond memories of hoping other teams would cut someone who would be useful to the Bills .. it almost is anti-climatic checking other teams cut lists. Caleb Benenoch lands with the Saints. Being good a lot of the players we would hope to land on our PS may end up on other teams. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/caleb-benenoch-19102/ That certainly tells me something about how NO feels about their OL...yikes. Benenoch did a fantastic impersonation of a turnstile at Bills camp from what I read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said: Jets aren't going to be as bad as some think and if Saleh is good coach they will definitely upset some teams this year. A few breaks go a different way and they would have beat us last year when we were in a little funk after the Titans and Chiefs losses. With that said they are still probably in that 6 or 7 win range at best this year. I don't know man. I think they will be as bad as I'm expecting. Possibly could end up being worse than I think they will be. As far as their coach goes, time will tell how he does. I think their defense might be half decent, maybe. I just don't see the offense putting up many points at all myself. Even if their defense plays great, only so far that will get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Even if their defense plays great, only so far that will get you. [Yoda has entered the chat] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, eball said: [Yoda has entered the chat] Who is this Yoda you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, maddenboy said: where on earth do the JESTs find 6 wins? Nothing personal, but this feels like a prediction from ESPN where their predictions, total, have the league playing above .500 football (the total number of wins is more than the 256 [now 272] games that will be played). Somebody gotta lose. I dont see the JESTs winning a single division game. And who else can they possibly beat? I hope you are right but I think the Jets will be better than people think. Getting rid of Gase is a huge plus for them. They have talent on the team. Their front 7 is solid although the Lawson injury is huge especially if he misses significant time or the entire year. They rebuilt their OL and receivers (at least on paper) is much better. Obviously a lot depends on Wilson and how well he does. I say 6 to 8 wins. I definitely think they can split with the Fins and Pats. Neither one of those teams has a QB. Cam looked done last year and Tua is "meh". The Bills should sweep them though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Jets aren't going to be as bad as some think and if Saleh is good coach they will definitely upset some teams this year. A few breaks go a different way and they would have beat us last year when we were in a little funk after the Titans and Chiefs losses. With that said they are still probably in that 6 or 7 win range at best this year. By that same logic if things had broken a bit the other way we'd of scored TDs instead of FGs and completely blown them out of the water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 24 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Damn. That sucks for Lawson and the Jets. Hate to see a serious injury like that. Ugh...that is definitely not good...lots of people including me were clamoring for the Bills to bring him in...would have sucked even more if he was our big FA signing this year. 7 minutes ago, Greg S said: I hope you are right but I think the Jets will be better than people think. Getting rid of Gase is a huge plus for them. They have talent on the team. Their front 7 is solid although the Lawson injury is huge especially if he misses significant time or the entire year. They rebuilt their OL and receivers (at least on paper) is much better. Obviously a lot depends on Wilson and how well he does. I say 6 to 8 wins. I definitely think they can split with the Fins and Pats. Neither one of those teams has a QB. Cam looked done last year and Tua is "meh". The Bills should sweep them though. Maybe a 5 or 6 win team at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Greg S said: I hope you are right but I think the Jets will be better than people think. Getting rid of Gase is a huge plus for them. They have talent on the team. Their front 7 is solid although the Lawson injury is huge especially if he misses significant time or the entire year. They rebuilt their OL and receivers (at least on paper) is much better. Obviously a lot depends on Wilson and how well he does. I say 6 to 8 wins. I definitely think they can split with the Fins and Pats. Neither one of those teams has a QB. Cam looked done last year and Tua is "meh". The Bills should sweep them though. Is your opinion based off mainly their defense? I guessed they don't win any more than 6. Would be surprising if they do for me anyways. And I was being a little generous. I think they would be doing good to even get 6 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, snowbelt_subie said: anyone that wants to watch a live practice between the browns and giants it will be broadcast on the browns youtube channel at 3:30 you can see your AFC championship game opponent in action 😆 The Giants don't play in the AFC... And Lawson heard a pop? Not good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Is your opinion based off mainly their defense? I guessed they don't win any more than 6. Would be surprising if they do for me anyways. And I was being a little generous. I think they would be doing good to even get 6 wins. Their front 7 on D is solid but the secondary is questionable. Put it this way if the Bills OL can give Allen time to throw he will torch them badly. The Bills WR's vs the Jets DB's is a big mismatch. Also their OL is solid as is their WR's. Saleh should be a big upgrade over Gase. We will see how he manages the games when they count with timeouts and challenges. I have 6-8 as their ceiling floor. I hope they split with the Fins/Pats and lose the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, syhuang said: Lawson is having MRI on his Achilles now. This is awful for the Jets. Best player in camp and a $14 mil cap hit 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Greg S said: Their front 7 on D is solid but the secondary is questionable. Put it this way if the Bills OL can give Allen time to throw he will torch them badly. The Bills WR's vs the Jets DB's is a big mismatch. Also their OL is solid as is their WR's. Saleh should be a big upgrade over Gase. We will see how he manages the games when they count with timeouts and challenges. I have 6-8 as their ceiling floor. I hope they split with the Fins/Pats and lose the rest. I will give you their front 7 is decent, OL is yet to be seen. As for the WR's, you probably think they are better than I do. Of course I could be wrong, but WRs they got just doesn't seem like a very big improvement compared to the group they had last season. I mean the WRs might be a little better than last season, but imo not enough with a rookie QB Edited August 19, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malazan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He's been playing poorly, but it doesn't seem related to weight or health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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