eball Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 13 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I was thinking Diggs, Beas, Gabe, Sanders , Mackenzie, Hodgins and Stevenson if we can utilize his speed. Those are the seven I hope we go into the season with, with Stevenson winning the KR/PR job in camp. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: His wife wasn't ready for him to retire and walk away from an otherwise guaranteed $10M? Who are these people who thought he was going to retire? Eric Wood had a busted up neck and he wouldn't retire........he made Beane PAY him his guarantees before he would sign off. It’s a unique “gift” to always be able to immediately go to the most negative, pessimistic explanation for a player’s statement or actions. Well done, you. 4 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 7:50 AM, Kwai San said: Please pretty please have him sign elsewhere.....he does have a hot wife but at this point that's all he got. Oh and a potential large cap hit..... Hot wives and large cap hits aren't mutually exclusive, amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Assuming guy wearing #1 was sanders? Who was third guy? Edited June 16, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Assuming guy wearing #1 was sanders? Who was third guy? Gabriel Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Gabriel Davis Feel like he was 4th. Looks like it was Diggs Sanders maybe Gentry? and Gabe..? Edited June 16, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: But Hodgins was flashing at the beginning of last training camp as well, before the injury sidelined him. He was possibly ahead of Davis at the time. I'm hoping these reports (from the last two offseasons) is simply who he is: a young boundary WR with size (one of today's blurbs emphasized his outside skillset), like Gabriel Davis, who the coaches can't keep off the field. Yeah like I said, Ray Ray was killing McKenzie on the field in OTA's and TC........it was no contest.......and that's not just my observation from when I was there......he was getting hyped almost daily by the media. But in the games it was totally different. I'm not putting a lot of stock into a possession receiver making plays in a camp setting either..........that's actually been the most common example of misreads from OTA's in recent Bills WR history. I have seen Hodgins make contested catches in college so I assume that will still be something he can do to some extent..........but getting open was not a strength of his at that level so there is cause for pause IMO...........doing that and making plays in game type action has proven to be very different. I hope he forces the issue with his play but I certainly don't expect him to make the final 53. He could still end up on the practice squad....even if he plays well. The league is absolutely loaded with WR talent from the past few drafts so it's not like teams are going to be desperately searching for chain moving possession WR's. Hodgins is gonna' have to show quite a bit to get playing time in the NFL, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Feel like he was 4th Yeah he was last I think 87 went 3rd, (Gentry) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, eball said: It’s a unique “gift” to always be able to immediately go to the most negative, pessimistic explanation for a player’s statement or actions. Well done, you. No, it's simply common sense. $10M is probably in excess of 20% of what he's earned in his entire career to this point. Why would he just quit and forfeit that money when all he has to do to earn that is show up to mandatory team activities? Eric Wood is beloved among Bills fans.......an organization guy.......did he give back his unearned bonus money so the Bills could have that $10M in cap space back when he decided to retire due to concerns about his neck? Of course not. The issue with Star returning has been his lack of performance prior and what that will look like when he plays his next game 20 months after his previous one. The retirement or conditioning/overweight/underweight questions are just tiny, straw-stuffed tomato cans lined up to be easily kicked over by people who ultimately want to defend him for entirely different things.......performance.......performance for the money........and his rationale for opting out (knowing that his pay was guaranteed anyway). The diversion tactic is amusing to me..........like watching children mimic their parents interactions. Basic and often very comical. I'm fully expecting someone to start a narrative that Tremaine Edmunds might hold out of training camp for a long term deal just so we can all be SO relieved to find out that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eball Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: No, it's simply common sense. $10M is probably in excess of 20% of what he's earned in his entire career to this point. Why would he just quit and forfeit that money when all he has to do to earn that is show up to mandatory team activities? Eric Wood is beloved among Bills fans.......an organization guy.......did he give back his unearned bonus money so the Bills could have that $10M in cap space back when he decided to retire due to concerns about his neck? Of course not. The issue with Star returning has been his lack of performance prior and what that will look like when he plays his next game 20 months after his previous one. The retirement or conditioning/overweight/underweight questions are just tiny, straw-stuffed tomato cans lined up to be easily kicked over by people who ultimately want to defend him for entirely different things.......performance.......performance for the money........and his rationale for opting out (knowing that his pay was guaranteed anyway). The diversion tactic is amusing to me..........like watching children mimic their parents interactions. Basic and often very comical. I'm fully expecting someone to start a narrative that Tremaine Edmunds might hold out of training camp for a long term deal just so we can all be SO relieved to find out that's not the case. Dude. Nobody's saying a player would voluntarily walk away from a multimillion dollar payday but that doesn't mean everything else Star said isn't true. Money or not, these guys put their bodies through hell to play this game at a high level. If you're not "all in" you're doing yourself and your team a disservice. You are simply so hell bent on your trashing of Star you won't even allow the slightest crack of light to shine through the door that perhaps he can be a productive member of the Bills' D line this season. Apparently Beane is lying, McD is lying, his teammates are lying -- all for what? Beane hasn't shown he's afraid to admit a contract mistake and move on, and McD makes everyone earn their playing time. What is the angle here? Oh, that's right -- you know everything about football and we're all just here to soak in your wisdom. Party on. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Not sure if this was posted in another thread already, but: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yeah he was last I think 87 went 3rd, (Gentry) Looks like Gentry might be the "dark horse" this season? A lot of hay is being made of his chemistry with Allen, and if anyone watches Allen's highlight reel from Wyoming, you can see why. Really can't wait to see how the P/KR position pans out. Between that, RB, and Dlm there are some really intense competitions this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Hot wives and large cap hits aren't mutually exclusive, amigo. I got a hot wife and I know this......I'd still take my hot wife over large cap hit tho!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 hours ago, eball said: It’s a unique “gift” to always be able to immediately go to the most negative, pessimistic explanation for a player’s statement or actions. Well done, you. This is actually a kinder gentler bado great football knowledge…..everything else not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 4:50 AM, YoloinOhio said: Sal said they still aren’t allowed to report # reps, who is at CB2, OL groups etc They run a tight ship in regards to any personnel positioning or strategy leaks. Hard to watch the promo videos on the Bills official site. A bit of music track, some closeups of catches at the end of routes that don't give away anything...another shot of feet running the ladder drill, and guys hitting the sleds. Hard to argue with the approach as every team is looking for every competitive edge they can get. With all that focus on keeping a lid on info, reporters reporting on what they should not are going to get the quick hook offstage and struggle getting back in again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dont Stop Billeiving Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Watched this b/c I'll watch any Bills video at this point in the offseason, but didn't expect much...whoa Hollister has quick feet, twinkle toes alert! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This is actually a kinder gentler bado great football knowledge…..everything else not so much I remember the other... and I do agree with much of the X's and O's with Bado, and he is not that far off base with the cap management stance. He and I locked horns often when I was posting way back when as Left Overture. He may have banned me at one point I got so under his skin (its a gift) 🤣 Water under the bridge and all that - when you roll back all the layers and how folks can rub you the wrong way on the board you realize they just desperately want the Bills to make the right moves that they think will help them win it all. Where you have passionate fans you have volatile interactions because they care. OK - that was my attempt at a commercial break - now back to our regularly-scheduled squabbling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Feel like he was 4th. Looks like it was Diggs Sanders maybe Gentry? and Gabe..? Allen to Diggs, Allen to Sanders; Fromm to Gentry; Allen to Davis. Look at the difference in the way they cut on the route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Allen to Diggs, Allen to Sanders; Fromm to Gentry; Allen to Davis. Look at the difference in the way they cut on the route. Sanders looks pretty quick still for an old man. Gabe has a nice cut too. Diggs faked out my loving gaze… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Watched this b/c I'll watch any Bills video at this point in the offseason, but didn't expect much...whoa Hollister has quick feet, twinkle toes alert! I thought the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Watched this b/c I'll watch any Bills video at this point in the offseason, but didn't expect much...whoa Hollister has quick feet, twinkle toes alert! He had a couple big games for Seattle, including one vs Buffalo.. Will be interesting to see how he stacks up. Tight end room has a lot of opportunity if somebody can step up in that group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Is Beas missing a tooth? Did I miss that update somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Hopefully Josh through at least 5 picks so we can prop him up as the next Mahomes too Edited June 16, 2021 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hopefully Josh through at least 5 picks so we can prop him up as the next Mahomes too every camp pick lowers his contract! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, WideNine said: Water under the bridge and all that - when you roll back all the layers and how folks can rub you the wrong way on the board you realize they just desperately want the Bills to make the right moves that they think will help them win it all. Where you have passionate fans you have volatile interactions because they care. Often, yes. Occasionally, you just have some arrogant arses who always want to be right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Hopefully Josh through at least 5 picks so we can prop him up as the next Mahomes too 7 on 7 sessions are about making mistakes so Josh will know not to throw it to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Is Beas missing a tooth? Did I miss that update somewhere? Bease showed up in some social media posts with a missing tooth this summer. I wonder if he's having some kind of dental surgery and that's one reason he's been helmetless until this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TheProcess said: Is Beas missing a tooth? Did I miss that update somewhere? Cut him! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I know our Bills coaches aren't forthcoming on the injury front, but IIRC Breida and Hollister weren't participating yesterday either. Hope they aren't badly dinged. 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wait, Wat? I thought it was scheduled to be a 3 day minicamp? Just like that, Cold Turkey, no more football-ish stuff until the end of July? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I know our Bills coaches aren't forthcoming on the injury front, but IIRC Breida and Hollister weren't participating yesterday either. Hope they aren't badly dinged. Hollister was doing some drills showing quick feet today so not that banged up. 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait, Wat? I thought it was scheduled to be a 3 day minicamp? Just like that, Cold Turkey, no more football-ish stuff until the end of July? Sucks for us but probably a good sign/reward for the high turn out for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I know our Bills coaches aren't forthcoming on the injury front, but IIRC Breida and Hollister weren't participating yesterday either. Hope they aren't badly dinged. Wait, Wat? I thought it was scheduled to be a 3 day minicamp? Just like that, Cold Turkey, no more football-ish stuff until the end of July? A lot of teams are ending early. They all had 3 days scheduled and some even ended after 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I think they wanted to give Josh an extra day to work on his pitching. Got to be ready for the photo op. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: A lot of teams are ending early. They all had 3 days scheduled and some even ended after 1. I was reading that the knock on him in Chicago is he was a Practice hall of famer but it never materialized on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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