Dablitzkrieg Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Keuchly has scrambled eggs for brains. He needs to stay retired for his own health. His future PTSD is going to be really bad, Imo. Remember his little temper tantrum in 2016? The dude started balling like a baby. You should probably take a break. You and back2buff need some help. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Ooooh now there's a thought. But isn't that what former Panther Greg Olsen is doing? I waited on him and the entire Carolina O-Line a handful of years ago. Olsen, who was the established, celebrated vet of the group, really had the defining/dominating comment on every thread of the table's conversation; there is a distinct way cerebral/reflective guys (or those who try to be) stick out in NFL conversations. Majority of NFL players and personnel are smart people, don't get me wrong at all. But they're not all openly inquisitive and thoughtful in social situations. Olsen was an alpha nerd at a 10-top of giants. He makes sense in the booth. Bonus tea to spill: they played credit card roulette, throwing all their cards in a ballcap and making a busser choose the loser. My idiot busser didn't dig for the heaviest card, and instead pulled out Byron Bell's card, a youngish player at the time (had been undrafted) who was the most obviously out of his element (rural Texan roots) at a restaurant like Tempo. Anyways, he tipped me under 10% on what was not a small check or a low maintenance table. Bright spot: Mario Williams made him pay the next day with his ridonculous 4.5 sack game (most of which was over Bell). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Kuechly coming back? There's nothing in the story about it. There are so many other possible reasons to quit a job. Maybe he's got a personality clash with someone there. I can't imagine him coming back, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 11 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Keuchly should be doing play by play. More money in it, good looking guy, very intelligent. He could be the defensive Romo. How about Bills LB coach?🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 11 hours ago, bigK14094 said: To many concussions. Stay off the field Luke....!!!!! And I am you’re father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: And I am you’re father. How about Luke becoming Tremaine’s Obi Wan?👀🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Na he only resigned after having to watch Tremaine Edmunds tape. The damage was real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: How about Luke becoming Tremaine’s Obi Wan?👀🤔 smart you are. The great master gods has spoken. 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: How about Bills LB coach?🤔 He could be an assistant or quality control I suppose. If he wanted to get into coaching. No indication that he does and his wife is a doctor in Charlotte so thinking the relo might be an issue. He can work for the Bills from Charlotte as a personnel advisor if scouting is something he is still interested in doing for another organization Edited May 9, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: How about Bills LB coach?🤔 Now that would be truly awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 This guy ain't coming back. Come on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: This guy ain't coming back. Come on... Well, as @BADOLBILZ pointed out, some guys I woulda thought were wrecks, have come back from retirement (Gronkowski). But we have no inkling he wishes to return to play at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, as @BADOLBILZ pointed out, some guys I woulda thought were wrecks, have come back from retirement (Gronkowski). But we have no inkling he wishes to return to play at this point. Gronk didn't have his brain scrambled. He was just bored and didn't want to play on a going nowhere NE team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Any ideas on how much Dan Morgan was making with the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Gronk didn't have his brain scrambled. He was just bored and didn't want to play on a going nowhere NE team. Gronk had 2 known concussions in his injury history. He also had three back surgeries for "herniated disc with nerve impingement", including one involving a fractured vertebrae. It's not like his injuries were all niggling or benign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Gronk had 2 known concussions in his injury history. He also had three back surgeries for "herniated disc with nerve impingement", including one involving a fractured vertebrae. It's not like his injuries were all niggling or benign. Yes Gronk had long history of back issues predating his drafting. But his return was more of how much pain he could tolerate. Keuchkly is a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Gronk had 2 known concussions in his injury history. He also had three back surgeries for "herniated disc with nerve impingement", including one involving a fractured vertebrae. It's not like his injuries were all niggling or benign. Goonk said it was more like 20 concussions. If anyone's brains are scrambled... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) Keuchly always sounded more like a coach rather than a scout Wonder if in a few years you hear Keuchly getting into coaching. Could need a few years away from the game so he doesn't get the itch to play type of thing Or become the Jordan palmer of linebackers Edited May 9, 2021 by Cheektowaga Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Or become the Jordan palmer of linebackers Sign Tremaine up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Keuchly always sounded more like a coach rather than a scout Wonder if in a few years you hear Keuchly getting into coaching. Could need a few years away from the game so he doesn't get the itch to play type of thing Or become the Jordan palmer of linebackers I think the latter would be better for him. His wife is a doctor so he would be able to bring players to NC (or whatever area they decide to move if she gets another position) and have hours which would be less than he would be as a coach and be easier to set with her schedule. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Maybe he's taking Dan Morgans place!. LOL They both did play middle LB for the Panthers and were there in Carolina in the McD/Beane era. Stranger things have happened! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Maybe he's taking Dan Morgans place!. LOL They both did play middle LB for the Panthers and were there in Carolina in the McD/Beane era. Stranger things have happened! Brian Gaine is more likely since he was on staff before and was a GM for one year in Houston. IF he is interested in that route Bills would likely would create a different position for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Brian Gaine is more likely since he was on staff before and was a GM for one year in Houston. IF he is interested in that route Bills would likely would create a different position for him. LK will need to put many more years in as a scout before he would even be entertained as a FO type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Doc said: LK will need to put many more years in as a scout before he would even be entertained as a FO type. Bring a scout is not requirement to be a FO type even GM. Beane was never a scout although he probably helped for he is the type of person who pitched in whenever work was needed to be done. He went from a temp intern position to communications intern to front office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Beane Quote As an executive: Carolina Panthers (1998–2007) - Personnel [front office] Carolina Panthers (2008–2014) - Director of football operations / interim GM Carolina Panthers (2015–2016) - Assistant general manager Buffalo Bills (2017–present) - General manager https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2017/07/22/new-buffalo-bills-gm-brandon-beane-took-early-career-risk-paid-off/500744001/ Quote Beane didn’t last long writing press releases for the Panthers. He was driven to seek more responsibility, and former Panthers general manager Marty Hurney saw that. He moved Beane into the football operations department, and this is where Beane began learning the business side of football. He was in charge of the Panthers training camp, then he began working with budgets and travel itineraries, and pretty soon he was in charge of football ops with an eye on the big office, general manager. Hurney was fired in 2012, and owner Jerry Richardson had Beane finish that season as interim GM, but ultimately, Richardson hired the more experienced Gettleman in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) I hope he does not attempt a comeback. Jeopardizing his brain by subjecting it to more damage after multiple severe concussions is not worth a couple more years of playing. I hope for his own health that he is planning on going into coaching instead. Considering the Carolina/Buffalo pipeline, maybe he'll join our staff. Edited May 9, 2021 by Allen2Diggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Bring a scout is not requirement to be a FO type even GM. Beane was never a scout although he probably helped for he is the type of person who pitched in whenever work was needed to be done. He went from a temp intern position to communications intern to front office. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Beane https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2017/07/22/new-buffalo-bills-gm-brandon-beane-took-early-career-risk-paid-off/500744001/ I'd say that's more the unicorn than the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd say that's more the unicorn than the rule. He certainly does not NEED to scout to work in front office which is the point. NFL Front offices encompass a lot of different skills - scouting, finances, communications, logistics, etc. And unicorns are not uncommon in NFL if people with show passion and willing to work very, very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Gronk didn't have his brain scrambled. He was just bored and didn't want to play on a going nowhere NE team. he also teased at it repeatedly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd say that's more the unicorn than the rule. Nah. Howie Roseman was a bean counter turned recent SB winning GM. Beane isn't one of a kind. He was a gopher for Gettleman and in the Smithers role as a DoFO he ended up learning how to run an entire organization. It's probably going to become more common with success like those two have had. Teams might have to start paying scouting directors more(they typically make $300K or less).......but as the Bills can attest........long time road scouts.....like Buddy Nix and Whaley.......often don't have the managerial skills or whole-organization understanding to handle the demands of being a modern GM. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He certainly does not NEED to scout to work in front office which is the point. NFL Front offices encompass a lot of different skills - scouting, finances, communications, logistics, etc. And unicorns are not uncommon in NFL if people with show passion and willing to work very, very hard. 2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Nah. Howie Roseman was a bean counter turned recent SB winning GM. Beane isn't one of a kind. He was a gopher for Gettleman and in the Smithers role as a DoFO he ended up learning how to run an entire organization. It's probably going to become more common with success like those two have had. Teams might have to start paying scouting directors more(they typically make $300K or less).......but as the Bills can attest........long time road scouts.....like Buddy Nix and Whaley.......often don't have the managerial skills or whole-organization understanding to handle the demands of being a modern GM. Roseman also graduated from law school. But Kuechly started-off as a scout which tells me that's the track they wanted him to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Teams might have to start paying scouting directors more(they typically make $300K or less).......but as the Bills can attest........long time road scouts.....like Buddy Nix and Whaley.......often don't have the managerial skills or whole-organization understanding to handle the demands of being a modern GM. I could not agree more. As much as I detested Whaley in terms of his capability as GM, I really do think that he was able to spot talent at many positions. That said, he gave away the store in terms of draft day trades over and over again, and didn't however have a clue in terms of the QB position. Yet, he was probably better than Levy as a GM LOL!!! As always, jmo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I could not agree more. As much as I detested Whaley in terms of his capability as GM, I really do think that he was able to spot talent at many positions. That said, he gave away the store in terms of draft day trades over and over again, and didn't however have a clue in terms of the QB position. Yet, he was probably better than Levy as a GM LOL!!! As always, jmo. That's not saying much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Doc said: LK will need to put many more years in as a scout before he would even be entertained as a FO type. Agree if he were to come to Buffalo wouldn't be as Morgans exact replacement, more like a lower level after all the dominoes fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Id give him a shot. League minimum of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/27/luke-kuechly-reasons-leaving-panthers-pro-scout-position/ Quote Kuechly also put any comeback thoughts to rest, stating his days on the field are very much over. “I’m done playing football,” the 30-year-old retiree said. “I’m just going to take my time and see what pops up.” Ok that is that w.r.t his comeback! Also, since he will be busy hunting and fishing in the fall, guess he wont be assuming Morgan's position with the Bills as well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/27/luke-kuechly-reasons-leaving-panthers-pro-scout-position/ Ok that is that w.r.t his comeback! Also, since he will be busy hunting and fishing in the fall, guess he wont be assuming Morgan's position with the Bills as well. Good for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/05/27/luke-kuechly-reasons-leaving-panthers-pro-scout-position/ Ok that is that w.r.t his comeback! Also, since he will be busy hunting and fishing in the fall, guess he wont be assuming Morgan's position with the Bills as well. I hear the Buffalo area is great for hunting and fishing👀😎 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 4:27 PM, Bill from NYC said: I could not agree more. As much as I detested Whaley in terms of his capability as GM, I really do think that he was able to spot talent at many positions. That said, he gave away the store in terms of draft day trades over and over again, and didn't however have a clue in terms of the QB position. Yet, he was probably better than Levy as a GM LOL!!! As always, jmo. IMO this is the stuff that people often miss. A GM who always makes good picks and signings, but can't stack the chips up right to get contracts that allow for replacing hurt guys, resigning talent, and staying out of cap jail will end up being an ex GM. i remember pats playd someone, i think the rams, in the super bowl, and there were like six or 7 ex browns on the two teams. basically a farm team. Not to mention, if a GM can't get good coaches, well all the talent won't get you over the hump. the same thing applies to head coaches, we get wrapped up in game day management, and play calling, but how one organizes the practice week so that you have guys able to execute a good plan (you can't just call plays you don't practice because they would work in madden), how you allot time and reps to back ups so they are ready, and what you can get built up over the course of the year so that come playoffs your team has money in the bank on some go to stuff is generally unseen, but really counts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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