Rk_Bills86 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 I mean - by this could have/ would have logic - the Bills had 2 dropped TDs against KC the first time around and probably win the game if they connect. Also - Allen had an INT added to his total that simply wasn't.... (The Rams game debacle) 4
John from Riverside Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Josh Allen throws the ball so hard we are lucky that OUR guys catch the balls......much less a opponent 1 1
Warcodered Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 8:16 PM, John from Riverside said: Josh Allen throws the ball so hard we are lucky that OUR guys catch the balls......much less a opponent Expand If he threw them any harder he'd have to throw them the day after so they could travel back in time to game day. 1
Old Coot Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 I like Josh Allen but he still has work to do on his accuracy and decision-making. Compared to the cut ups of Mahomes' dropped interceptions, Mahomes was more accurate. 1 1
CincyBillsFan Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 7:04 PM, HappyDays said: This account is run by Cian Fahey. He is known for having really out there takes about QBs. He hated Mahomes and Allen coming out so it's no surprise he posted a thread that tried to make them look worse than they really are. Expand There are bad takes and then there are straight out stupidly insane takes.
PrimeTime101 Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Dropped passes weather dropped by a WR or a CB has a wide range of what people actually call a drop.
CincyBillsFan Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 4:40 PM, Mango said: Allen can get away with a lot because of the velocity he puts on the ball. Some of that is good. Some of that it not so good. His fast ball is tough to catch, especially if you’re a defender not planning on catching it. I would like to see the full data set. His company isn’t bad. Just curious if this is a stat line that anybody should be paying attention to historically. Not for Allen, just curious in general. Expand Allen's company here is very good. And I seem to remember on more then one occasion QB evaluators talking about the single biggest difference between great college and pro QB's is the willingness to throw the ball when the WR doesn't look open. College QB's wait to see separation. Elite NFL QB's put the ball in very tight places. Like "almost" interception tight spaces. I suspect that this stat actually demonstrates just how elite Allen really is. 2
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 7:03 PM, teef said: Neat. Expand Its how I take my whiskey.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 8:16 PM, John from Riverside said: Josh Allen throws the ball so hard we are lucky that OUR guys catch the balls......much less a opponent Expand LOL Tre' White was asked on some podcast if he tried to intercept Josh and he was emphatic, No Way, he didn't want broken fingers! Deflection only! 1
Matt_In_NH Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 Some of those drops were not getting caught, period. But the same argument was made by Bills fans during Allen's first two years, ball hit your hands means you should catch it. That is an oversimplification that is often true but not always. The difficultly of some of those would be interceptions is quite high. Was he fortunate last year with dropped INT's? If 5 of those are converted to INT's does that mean he sucks? No not in my eyes. Is there still room for improvement, yes there is and I think he will move into that space. Can we take the INT in the Rams game off the boards since we are rewriting history?
Captain Caveman Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 That's why DBs are DBs and not WRs, right?
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 2:53 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Some of the dropped INTs from the video they posted really shouldn't be considered dropped INTs. Some of them were either contested plays or no chance of an INT. Not really sure what their criteria is. Some were right in the Dbs hands. Allen is going to have these plays because he believes in his arm too often. But I wouldn't have him change a thing. There's more good than bad. Expand Last year QBDataMine put out a video compilation to justify their rating of Josh as having the worst accuracy. I started a thread on it because of the 20 or so throws, 7 to 9 of them were balls that were tipped or his arm was hit prior to release. I thought it was sloppy work and/or spoke of some sort of agenda. Some then brought up Cian Fahey as the source of it and labeled him "the worst." So, these "dropped interceptions" seem unsurprisingly consistent with his reputation.
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 That "dropped INTs" video is pretty much the Golden Calf of Dolphins fans. It's been doing the rounds on Finheaven for weeks now, and they're all desperate for proof that last year was a fluke. There's a few clear heads over there, but oh Lord do they want to believe 2021 JA will go back to being 2018 JA. 1
TBBills Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 Anyone know the total number of dropped INT's last year for the league?
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 12:01 AM, JESSEFEFFER said: Last year QBDataMine put out a video compilation to justify their rating of Josh as having the worst accuracy. I started a thread on it because of the 20 or so throws, 7 to 9 of them were balls that were tipped or his arm was hit prior to release. I thought it was sloppy work and/or spoke of some sort of agenda. Some then brought up Cian Fahey as the source of it and labeled him "the worst." So, these "dropped interceptions" seem unsurprisingly consistent with his reputation. Expand Is it Cian? He hates Allen.
Blank Stare Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 12:02 AM, Coffeesforclosers said: That "dropped INTs" video is pretty much the Golden Calf of Dolphins fans. It's been doing the rounds on Finheaven for weeks now, and they're all desperate for proof that last year was a fluke. There's a few clear heads over there, but oh Lord do they want to believe 2021 JA will go back to being 2018 JA. Expand And he’d still make the Dolphins look silly. He owns them statistically.
Scott7975 Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 Seems they use the "dropped int stat" way more loose than a dropped pass.
JESSEFEFFER Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 12:02 AM, Coffeesforclosers said: That "dropped INTs" video is pretty much the Golden Calf of Dolphins fans. It's been doing the rounds on Finheaven for weeks now, and they're all desperate for proof that last year was a fluke. There's a few clear heads over there, but oh Lord do they want to believe 2021 JA will go back to being 2018 JA. Expand Considering what Josh has done vs. the Dolphins in his career, their fans should speak his name with hushed tones. 1
78thealltimegreat Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) On 4/17/2021 at 2:36 PM, BillsMafi$ said: https://twitter.com/qbdatamine/status/1359940049756946434?s=21 Expand Tom Brady actually threw three INT in the second half against Green Bay and the Bucs still won...no risk no reward Edited April 18, 2021 by 78thealltimegreat 1
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