Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Thanks as always for putting this together. It’s always a fun few threads as we wait for the real draft. Seems like you already have a solid team of helpers, but if you need any more help or last minute subs or anything, don’t hesitate to ask! Question: Since Beane has been here, have we always met with the players we draft in the first two rounds? I want to put together a solid list of BPA when the Bills are up. @YoloinOhio @Reed83HOF You all know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: Question: Since Beane has been here, have we always met with the players we draft in the first two rounds? I want to put together a solid list of BPA when the Bills are up. @YoloinOhio @Reed83HOF You all know? I don’t know how much more likely they are to get someone they met with, but here is a helpful list regarding that: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/03/2021-nfl-draft-bills-prospect-meeting-tracker.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Question: Since Beane has been here, have we always met with the players we draft in the first two rounds? I want to put together a solid list of BPA when the Bills are up. @YoloinOhio @Reed83HOF You all know? As far as their allotted official 30 visits: In 2018, Bills did not meet with Edmunds. In 2019, Bills did not meet with Ford. In 2020, Bills did not meet with Epenesa (but: COVID). As far as chatting with them in passing or at the combine....that may be a different story and is harder to track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Logic said: As far as their allotted official 30 visits: In 2018, Bills did not meet with Edmunds. In 2019, Bills did not meet with Ford. In 2020, Bills did not meet with Epenesa (but: COVID). As far as chatting with them in passing or at the combine....that may be a different story and is harder to track. Well, there goes that theory. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: Question: Since Beane has been here, have we always met with the players we draft in the first two rounds? I want to put together a solid list of BPA when the Bills are up. @YoloinOhio @Reed83HOF You all know? Not 100% sure off the top of my head, but here is what I do know: 1.) They like younger players so older guys 24 are out 2.) They like underclassmen, I think Moss was the only Sr they have drafted 3.) Positional value in relation to the round and expected playing time is important 4.) Early rounds, they like players who can contribute right away 5.) They are not bound by conference or strength of opponents 6.) They value intangibles (leadership and team over me) 7.) Physical specimens with athleticism 8.) Need to be smart as far as xs and os. Not afraid to say they made a mistake on a play when reviewing it with them. Can breakdown film 9.) If they have ties to a player or know about his makeup, that will give an edge over another player. For point #3, here is an example: Our offense is a pass based offense and I'm not sure they want to run more, but they want to be better at it when they do. RB since Shady left has been 3rd rounders and cheaper vets. The overall positional pay for RB vs the salary cap is very low, hence we dont swing on big RB FAs and do you want to take the ball out of Josh's hands more than we do now? So while we love Harris as an every down back, Moss can give us some of what he does. Etienne can give us a lot in the pass game, but is that along the lines of what Beane has shown thus far? Or does a Kenny Gainwell make sense? 9.) Asante Samuel Jr.; Sr played for Sean in Philly. This cannot be discounted. My advice look for players described above and for a position that can actually make a difference this year. IIRC, that is roughly what Beane said when trading for Diggs last year... 18 minutes ago, Logic said: As far as their allotted official 30 visits: In 2018, Bills did not meet with Edmunds. In 2019, Bills did not meet with Ford. In 2020, Bills did not meet with Epenesa (but: COVID). As far as chatting with them in passing or at the combine....that may be a different story and is harder to track. They met with Ford... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Not 100% sure off the top of my head, but here is what I do know: 1.) They like younger players so older guys 24 are out 2.) They like underclassmen, I think Moss was the only Sr they have drafted 3.) Positional value in relation to the round and expected playing time is important 4.) Early rounds, they like players who can contribute right away 5.) They are not bound by conference or strength of opponents 6.) They value intangibles (leadership and team over me) 7.) Physical specimens with athleticism 8.) Need to be smart as far as xs and os. Not afraid to say they made a mistake on a play when reviewing it with them. Can breakdown film 9.) If they have ties to a player or know about his makeup, that will give an edge over another player. For point #3, here is an example: Our offense is a pass based offense and I'm not sure they want to run more, but they want to be better at it when they do. RB since Shady left has been 3rd rounders and cheaper vets. The overall positional pay for RB vs the salary cap is very low, hence we dont swing on big RB FAs and do you want to take the ball out of Josh's hands more than we do now? So while we love Harris as an every down back, Moss can give us some of what he does. Etienne can give us a lot in the pass game, but is that along the lines of what Beane has shown thus far? Or does a Kenny Gainwell make sense? 9.) Asante Samuel Jr.; Sr played for Sean in Philly. This cannot be discounted. My advice look for players described above and for a position that can actually make a difference this year. IIRC, that is roughly what Beane said when trading for Diggs last year... Thanks boss. I really don’t like what I see in Harris. I know I’m in the minority and will probably be wrong. I know we don’t play zone a lot, but I would love a big bodied DB hybrid that can cover TE’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Broncos Cowboys Packers This second Moderna shot is no joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Thanks boss. I really don’t like what I see in Harris. I know I’m in the minority and will probably be wrong. I know we don’t play zone a lot, but I would love a big bodied DB hybrid that can cover TE’s So how much will this player be on the field every game? Playing time vs asset is big for beano. Why would u waste a rd 1 or rd 2 pick on a player who will play 5 snaps a game or will be a matchup guy in 2 games a year? Not saying I disagree with you, but this is how they think. Not pointing a direction on anything either. If they feel a player will push them over the top, esp in rd 1 or 2, Beane will go get him. I used RB as an example above, but if Beane feels one of those 2 will push us over the top, he will take them. TE is iffy and Friermuth, maybe someone they could snag to develop, but again look at expected contribution vs rd1 a TE in RD1 is unlikely, those guys take 3 years to develop... The last couple years Beane has plugged every hole he could going into the draft so he can target players and positions (based on value)... They believe in both lines and being tough up front, getting pressure with the front 4 to use the other 7 in coverage and they like zone CBs, but if McD could get a physical man corner, he might bite. Not all draft picks will make this team Oh I would also add that this is a strange year with scouting and covid, look for schools where we have relationships with them, we will be leveraging them with little face time this year... 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Broncos Cowboys Packers This second Moderna shot is no joke. I go for my 2nd one on the 5th...that rough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: So how much will this player be on the field every game? Playing time vs asset is big for beano. Why would u waste a rd 1 or rd 2 pick on a player who will play 5 snaps a game or will be a matchup guy in 2 games a year? Not saying I disagree with you, but this is how they think. Not pointing a direction on anything either. If they feel a player will push them over the top, esp in rd 1 or 2, Beane will go get him. I used RB as an example above, but if Beane feels one of those 2 will push us over the top, he will take them. TE is iffy and Friermuth, maybe someone they could snag to develop, but again look at expected contribution vs rd1 a TE in RD1 is unlikely, those guys take 3 years to develop... The last couple years Beane has plugged every hole he could going into the draft so he can target players and positions (based on value)... They believe in both lines and being tough up front, getting pressure with the front 4 to use the other 7 in coverage and they like zone CBs, but if McD could get a physical man corner, he might bite. Not all draft picks will make this team Oh I would also add that this is a strange year with scouting and covid, look for schools where we have relationships with them, we will be leveraging them with little face time this year... I'm talking about a DB who may be on the larger side and can support covering a TE. I'm thinking they would be our #2 DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I’ll get you someone with a late pick Thanks! I don’t get off the plane til 8:30pm pst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: I’ll take the Chargers my friend. 👍 Already taken) 57 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I will take the Lions please Already taken @Victory Formation@Just Joshin'@Reed83HOF Please look at the main page to see who is still available. Reed, you didn't ask for anyone, but you know you're in if you want 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Thanks! I don’t get off the plane til 8:30pm pst Rams have a day 2 pick. They are yours. Edited March 26, 2021 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: Already taken) Already taken @Victory Formation@Just Joshin'@Reed83HOF Please look at the main page to see who is still available. Reed, you didn't ask for anyone, but you know you're in if you want Rams have a day 2 pick. They are yours. Gimme whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Gimme whatever I might use you like I do myself, filling in for the last available teams or if people don't make their pick. I like to let newcomers into the first mock draft and see how they do. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Ravens if they stay unclaimed. Do you have any preference? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Virgil said: Already taken) Already taken @Victory Formation@Just Joshin'@Reed83HOF Please look at the main page to see who is still available. Reed, you didn't ask for anyone, but you know you're in if you want Rams have a day 2 pick. They are yours. I’ll take the Raiders good sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Ravens, Bucs, Titans please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Broncos Cowboys Packers This second Moderna shot is no joke. 2nd one on 1 April. Not looking forward to it. 1st shot floored me too. I always react bad to every flu shot I have ever taken as well so they warned me I likely will feel both. 1st one reaction was like a bad flu for 24 hours then just generally worn out for another 48. Then nothing Just some arm pain. Hoping shot 2 isn’t worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Only need 4 more owners. Titans, Bears, Cardinals, and Saints are left. At this rate, we could be starting tomorrow. I should have known better. @Reed83HOF I gave you the Packers. Try not to get flamed so much this time 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Saints please if they're still available Anyone else is fine if the Saints are gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Titans, Bears, Cardinals remaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: Titans, Bears, Cardinals remaining I will take any but start with Bears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Just the Titans and Cardinals left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Only need 4 more owners. Titans, Bears, Cardinals, and Saints are left. At this rate, we could be starting tomorrow. I should have known better. @Reed83HOF I gave you the Packers. Try not to get flamed so much this time 😀 We are trading up for ruggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Already taken) Already taken @Victory Formation@Just Joshin'@Reed83HOF Please look at the main page to see who is still available. Reed, you didn't ask for anyone, but you know you're in if you want Rams have a day 2 pick. They are yours. Sounds good!! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: 2nd one on 1 April. Not looking forward to it. 1st shot floored me too. I always react bad to every flu shot I have ever taken as well so they warned me I likely will feel both. 1st one reaction was like a bad flu for 24 hours then just generally worn out for another 48. Then nothing Just some arm pain. Hoping shot 2 isn’t worse. No reaction to 1st one but some pain on arm where injected. Different story with the 2nd shot. LOL. Not to make you dread it even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: We are trading up for ruggs Diggs and Ruggs The 4G Network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I'll take the Titans, or whatever is left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Just need one owner for the Cardinals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Count me in for the Cardinals. Looking forward to getting my head into the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Alright, we have our owners. The draft will start by 12p Saturday. The Jaguars are on the clock @Buffalo716 Edited March 27, 2021 by Virgil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 So can we just skip to pick #2? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Virgil said: Alright, we have our owners. The draft will start by 12p Saturday. The Jaguars are on the clock @Buffalo716 Can I already select? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Can I already select? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) With the first pick in the 2021 nfl draft the jacksonville jaguars select QB, Trevor Lawrence, Clemson The 6'6 pocket passer has everything you want in a franchise QB.. from a strong arm, to nimble feet and a quick release... Too good to pass up , and I'm proud to say in 5 years he'll be a London knight! The jets and @Bleedingreennc is on the clock Edited March 27, 2021 by Buffalo716 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: With the first pick in the 2021 nfl draft the jacksonville jaguars select QB, Trevor Lawrence, Clemson The 6'6 pocket passer has everything you want in a franchise QB.. from a strong arm, to nimble feet and a quick release... Too good to pass up , and I'm proud to say in 5 years he'll be a London knight! The jets and @Bleedingreennc is on the clock Absurd pick. The draft is ruined! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Time for the Jets to do their yearly wasted high pick on defensive end or defensive tackle right? Who is getting traded in 2-3 years from jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 It’s late. Good knight, Trevor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 With the second pick in the 2021 nfl draft the NY Jets select QB, Zach Wilson, BYU 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: With the second pick in the 2021 nfl draft the NY Jets select QB, Zach Wilson, BYU But, but, but Corey Davis said..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: With the second pick in the 2021 nfl draft the NY Jets select QB, Zach Wilson, BYU Well boys, we made it one full pick in the appropriate format. We had a good run. The 49ers are on the clock @Nester 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bleedingreennc said: With the second pick in the 2021 nfl draft the NY Jets select QB, Zach Wilson, BYU SMH Da rulz 4 dem n jerzy Quote 2 - When you make your selection, the format should be as follows: With the 30th pick in the TSW Mock Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming. The Kansas City Chiefs @Virgil are on the clock. (It's also encouraged to write brief summary explaining your thoughts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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