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2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Going to be very interesting to see how this ends up.

 

If I were to take a wild guess, I would say the cases get settled (for large amounts of money) and the NFL dishes him a lengthy suspension due to inappropriate behaviour. 
 

But all it takes is 1 person wanting to go to court, so will be very interesting to see how it plays out.

 

 

But all these current plaintiffs are represented by the same lawyer, so the chances of one or two holding out to go to trial is very low.

 

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another absolutely bizarre statement from Buzbee in there really exposing what a viper pit it is down there in Houston.

 

”No evidence is going to be provided to the police. Why? Too many political enemies on the police force.”

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10 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


another absolutely bizarre statement from Buzbee in there really exposing what a viper pit it is down there in Houston.

 

”No evidence is going to be provided to the police. Why? Too many political enemies on the police force.”

This is a strange twist.  I can think of one reason for it: If he withholds the information from the police now, it gives the plaintiffs greater leverage in their negotiations with Watson’s team.  Once the cat’s out of the bag and it becomes a law enforcement matter, the civil case gets harder to settle.

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15 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


another absolutely bizarre statement from Buzbee in there really exposing what a viper pit it is down there in Houston.

”No evidence is going to be provided to the police. Why? Too many political enemies on the police force.”

 

Wait.  What?

 

Whose political enemies?  His?  Watsons?  The Clients?

 

Bizarre indeed

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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Again.......you are putting yourself in the shoes of Watson.

 

Upwards of 40% of NFL players are evangelical christian...........and the majority of players are christians of one denomination or another.

 

Watson isn't an atheist like Aaron Rodgers.........he's a guy who has gotten a good deal of mileage out of being a man of faith.      

 

Faith In Action award winner.........baptized in the River Jordan........I'm thinking maybe you aren't the same guys. :lol:

 

 

For sure I am not the same guy. I don't get off on having random women massage my anus either. 

 

Still don't see what him wanting out of Houston and being a creep have to do with each other. 

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3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Wait.  What?

 

Whose political enemies?  His?  Watsons?  The Clients?

 

Bizarre indeed

He said hardin’s son works for the Houston PD

 

“Our team has been roundly criticized because these numerous brave women haven’t filed formal criminal complaints with HPD (although we have provided info to other organizations),” Buzbee said on Instagram. “Here is my worry. When I ran for Houston mayor against the CURRENT mayor, I called for the resignation of the former police chief. I was thus reluctant initially in these important cases to provide info to HPD, at least while Art Acevedo was the Police Chief — even though my brother-in-law is a long-term HPD officer. Mr. Acevedo has now left Houston for Miami. Yet, I’ve since learned that my legal opponent, Mr. Hardin, has a son who is on of the exclusive Command Staff of HPD. I am not saying in any way that Deshaun Watson’s lawyer, Mr. Hardin, has a son who has a position that would compromise HPD and its investigation. I support his service, along with all Houston police officers — I think the rank and file know that. But, I am saying that me and my clients will go elsewhere to provide our evidence to investigative authorities. Stand by.”

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He said hardin’s son works for the Houston PD

 

“Our team has been roundly criticized because these numerous brave women haven’t filed formal criminal complaints with HPD (although we have provided info to other organizations),” Buzbee said on Instagram. “Here is my worry. When I ran for Houston mayor against the CURRENT mayor, I called for the resignation of the former police chief. I was thus reluctant initially in these important cases to provide info to HPD, at least while Art Acevedo was the Police Chief — even though my brother-in-law is a long-term HPD officer. Mr. Acevedo has now left Houston for Miami. Yet, I’ve since learned that my legal opponent, Mr. Hardin, has a son who is on of the exclusive Command Staff of HPD. I am not saying in any way that Deshaun Watson’s lawyer, Mr. Hardin, has a son who has a position that would compromise HPD and its investigation. I support his service, along with all Houston police officers — I think the rank and file know that. But, I am saying that me and my clients will go elsewhere to provide our evidence to investigative authorities. Stand by.”


thanks for quoting all that yolo.

 

tl:dr - buzbee says “I’m not saying Watson’s lawyer and son are corrupt, but...”

 

 

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21 hours ago, wppete said:

These conspiracy theorists are embarrassing.... this would be one grand conspiracy involving at 24 women/accusers and im

Sure more to come, a whole gang of lawyers, a NFL owner, a NFL manager and others. Also a Female SI reporter..... Criminal charges to follow most likely. Pretty insane how many people are making every excuse possible for Watson who surely looks like a predator to any logical thinking person. The precedence this is setting should be Interesting to see when the next NFL player is accused.... The only losers here are the 24 victims. 
 

 


And people wonder why most victims don’t say anything. 

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15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I wouldn't work for someone who wants to run prayer sessions with me. Now call me a heathen if you wish, but I'd be out. 


Cool cool cool. Do you feel the same about the other side of the spectrum? Seems to be a lot more “woke” pushing than “religion” pushing these days. 

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1 minute ago, DaggersEOD said:


Cool cool cool. Do you feel the same about the other side of the spectrum? Seems to be a lot more “woke” pushing than “religion” pushing these days. 

 

I don't push my atheism on anybody, no. If people start trying to talk religion to me I politely explain my stance and suggest we move on to other topics. 

 

I would say people seeking to push religion onto me happens rarely, most people of faith are normal, respectful individuals. One of my best friends is as devout a Christian as they come, I used to live with a practicing Muslim and I worked for a very religious Jewish lady earlier in my career. But when it has happened (and I'd say pre-covid it was 2 or 3 times a year on average) it is ordinarily pretty vociferous. 

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5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He said hardin’s son works for the Houston PD

 

“Our team has been roundly criticized because these numerous brave women haven’t filed formal criminal complaints with HPD (although we have provided info to other organizations),” Buzbee said on Instagram. “Here is my worry. When I ran for Houston mayor against the CURRENT mayor, I called for the resignation of the former police chief. I was thus reluctant initially in these important cases to provide info to HPD, at least while Art Acevedo was the Police Chief — even though my brother-in-law is a long-term HPD officer. Mr. Acevedo has now left Houston for Miami. Yet, I’ve since learned that my legal opponent, Mr. Hardin, has a son who is on of the exclusive Command Staff of HPD. I am not saying in any way that Deshaun Watson’s lawyer, Mr. Hardin, has a son who has a position that would compromise HPD and its investigation. I support his service, along with all Houston police officers — I think the rank and file know that. But, I am saying that me and my clients will go elsewhere to provide our evidence to investigative authorities. Stand by.”

 

Seems to me that's exactly what he's implying though.

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13 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

But all these current plaintiffs are represented by the same lawyer, so the chances of one or two holding out to go to trial is very low.

 

Going to take a lot of money to settle 20+ grievances.

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38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

oh, Ok then

 

 


Tough to prove a negative, but showing that Watson has utilized the services of ANOTHER 20 therapists doesn’t make his case sound better IMO. 

 

Such a strange defense strategy. 
 

Yeah those women said I did something to them, but these over here said I didn’t with them, therefore those others must be lying?

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28 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

"Your honor, my client hasnt murdered these other 18 people, therefore he is innocent"

I mean, there are probably millions of women in the greater Houston area whom Watson never groped or sexually assaulted...so there’s that.  Obviously innocent...

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This case is getting weirder by the day.  I mean who uses 40+ massage therapists in a few years?  Not normal for sure
 

appears that these 18 whom he didn’t potentially abuse either didn’t float his boat or he kept them “abuse” free as his ace in the hole just for this reason.   Just strange all the way around.

 

too many moving parts to not have some real substance to the claims
 

 

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8 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said:

appears that these 18 whom he didn’t potentially abuse either didn’t float his boat or he kept them “abuse” free as his ace in the hole just for this reason.   Just strange all the way around.

"She's homely.  No way I let her touch my junk..."

This gets weirder every day.

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33 minutes ago, TailgateChef said:

"She's homely.  No way I let her touch my junk..."

This gets weirder every day.

I wonder if you put pictures of all of them side by side in random order if with a large degree of certainty we could pick out the Two groups he’s created.  
 

Probably isn’t even Uggo vrs Hotty but some other kink.  

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1 hour ago, Behindenemylines said:

This case is getting weirder by the day.  I mean who uses 40+ massage therapists in a few years?  Not normal for sure
 

appears that these 18 whom he didn’t potentially abuse either didn’t float his boat or he kept them “abuse” free as his ace in the hole just for this reason.   Just strange all the way around.

 

too many moving parts to not have some real substance to the claims
 

 


That’s extremely speculative but at this point who knows you could be right on the money.

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2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:


That’s extremely speculative but at this point who knows you could be right on the money.

But what’s the point of discussing if you can’t make wild speculations to brag about later if happen to be right.  
 

in this case though seems like an episode of criminal minds. 

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39 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Pretty goofy tactic by Rusty Harden, but I guess he doesn't have much else in his bag of tricks to help Watson out yet...

Yeah, it’s about all he’s got.  I think next, Deshaun is going to being doing a lot of appearances at local churches, and various people in the community will come forward to “testify” as to what a great and selfless human he is...

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17 minutes ago, mannc said:

Yeah, it’s about all he’s got.  I think next, Deshaun is going to being doing a lot of appearances at local churches, and various people in the community will come forward to “testify” as to what a great and selfless human he is...

 

Priest are very wary of giving hand jobs at church these days, so...probably not.

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42 minutes ago, mannc said:

Yeah, it’s about all he’s got.  I think next, Deshaun is going to being doing a lot of appearances at local churches, and various people in the community will come forward to “testify” as to what a great and selfless human he is...


He’s got to justify his paycheck and drain Deshauns bank account before the 24+ accusers do and before Deshaun ends up in prison.

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16 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

This case is getting weirder by the day.  I mean who uses 40+ massage therapists in a few years?  Not normal for sure
 

appears that these 18 whom he didn’t potentially abuse either didn’t float his boat or he kept them “abuse” free as his ace in the hole just for this reason.   Just strange all the way around.

 

too many moving parts to not have some real substance to the claims
 

 

Or those were the 18 who actually signed his NDA. Who the eff has an NDA for a massage. 

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On 3/31/2021 at 12:52 PM, DaggersEOD said:


Tough to prove a negative, but showing that Watson has utilized the services of ANOTHER 20 therapists doesn’t make his case sound better IMO. 

 

Such a strange defense strategy. 
 

Yeah those women said I did something to them, but these over here said I didn’t with them, therefore those others must be lying?

It’s called a character witness. So far these are nothing more than allegations, anyway. Unless of course you already have your mind made up. 
 

He doesnt need to prove anything. 

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8 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

He doesnt need to prove anything. 

 

Legally of course this is correct. But in civil proceedings the claimant only needs to prove on the balance of priorities - ie. it is more probable that he did it than not. I think they have a decent chance of proving that. "Beyond reasonable doubt" ie. the criminal standard - trickier. 

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