Paup 1995MVP Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you guys liking me or my post? I didn't actually tender him myself....just wanted to make that clear. I love your user name. Thats a great line from a great movie! I like your post also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Boxcar said: Yeah, I suppose...but is there a huge difference between Bates and Mongo @ C? I'm not sure but considering last season in Mongo's first game back Morse got hurt, we had Bates in at Center and moved Mongo there a series later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, Doc said: I’m still surprised they didn’t tender Levi Wallace. You shoudn't be. Levi is not a good CB. His ceiling is very low because of his lack of athleticism. Ike is good and has a pretty high ceiling to be a very solid NFL offensive lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How long is the window open for teams to make him an offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: I love your user name. Thats a great line from a great movie! I like your post also. It's because of the metric system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Very nice. Bills now have 7 OL in the core. Dawkins Williams Morse Feliciano Ford Ike B Bates (probably not a lock) 2 to camp Adams Dewey I still can see a draft pick to compete with Bates/Adams or Dewey along with a few more camp bodies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: Very nice. Bills now have 7 OL in the core. Dawkins Williams Morse Feliciano Ford Ike B Bates (probably not a lock) 2 to camp Adams Dewey I still can see a draft pick to compete with Bates/Adams or Dewey along with a few more camp bodies And they will draft Humphrey or Dickerson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: And they will draft Humphrey or Dickerson I leave the drat to you college fans. Are they Tackles or Interior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: I leave the drat to you college fans. Are they Tackles or Interior? Long term C to take over Morse... could provide competition for Ford at G in 2021.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I'm a fan of keeping continuity on the offensive line. Maybe Ford wins out his position and hopefully we get an upgrade at one of the guard spots, but considering that the Bills have pretty much kept their core team in tact for me is already off to a great start this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Long term C to take over Morse... could provide competition for Ford at G in 2021.. That would make sense. I guess the only thing left is bring in some bodies to compete with Bates at Swing Tackle. Glad we took care of that! I'll shoot an email to Beane. LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, IgotBILLStopay said: why did they delay this? was the sane move to make. Nice - he was actually the glue guy on the OL last season. Because they could! So 7 returning players from last years line that played significant minutes. Probably still could use a backup tackle, would prefer a vet, but can't see them going another whole year without drafting one. Though I think they'd learn more towards drafting a center. Edited March 17, 2021 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Are Nsekhe and Winters the only OL not returning? If so, that's pretty good. The team finished 13-3 (15-4) and had a prolific offense, so OL continuity is good. Obviously, they need to improve the run game, but some of that could be RB and some could be play-calling/scheme, which are correctable with the current OL bodies. Plus, Feliciano was injured at the beginning of the season and Ford was in the middle and at the end, so having both healthy could help the line overall. Ford/Ike, Morse/Feliciano, Feliciano/Ike as our interior line, with Bates as a backup across the board, isn't bad. I don't know much about Devey or Adams, but I assume they are camp bodies that will compete with Bates any draft picks/UDFAs for final backup spots and PS spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 My guess is we explored upgrading the Guard position, but in the end Boetteger was what we could afford. Played fairly well last season, hopefully Ike is taking advantage of the offseason to get stronger and quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you guys liking me or my post? I didn't actually tender him myself....just wanted to make that clear. Rumor is that you were tender with him not that you tendered him. Get your comprehension straight.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Paup 1995MVP said: I love your user name. Thats a great line from a great movie! I like your post also. When's the wedding? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, NewEra said: No brainer. What’s the tender though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, NewEra said: No brainer. What’s the tender though? Swipe right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: How long is the window open for teams to make him an offer? That's a great question. I was just looking for this info myself. I believe in the past it's been ~ a 6 week period, so some time around April 27th or 28th. Then the team that extended the tender has 5 days to match the offer - not sure if that means the last day to make an offer is 5 days before it ends or ?? Anyone else here got the straight stuff? 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Very nice. Bills now have 7 OL in the core. Dawkins Williams Morse Feliciano Ford Ike B Bates (probably not a lock) 2 to camp Adams Dewey I still can see a draft pick to compete with Bates/Adams or Dewey along with a few more camp bodies Who is "Dewey"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 https://www.radio.com/wgr550/sports/bills/nfl-new-league-year-begins-bills-tender-boettger?utm_campaign=sharebutton&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=WGRAM That picture 😅🤣😭 5'10" vs 6'6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's a great question. I was just looking for this info myself. I believe in the past it's been ~ a 6 week period, so some time around April 27th or 28th. Then the team that extended the tender has 5 days to match the offer - not sure if that means the last day to make an offer is 5 days before it ends or ?? Anyone else here got the straight stuff? Who is "Dewey"? He is a Guard that was o the PS last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: He is a Guard that was o the PS last season. There was no guard named "Dewey" on the PS last season. Did you mean veteran Jordan Devey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: There was no guard named "Dewey" on the PS last season. Did you mean veteran Jordan Devey? Yes there was and I made a joke about using a W instead of a V. He was on the Bills PS. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DeveJo00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes there was and I made a joke about using a W instead of a V. He was on the Bills PS. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DeveJo00.htm Oh, OK, sorry, missed your joke. I know who Jordan Devey is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: why did they delay this? was the sane move to make. Nice - he was actually the glue guy on the OL last season. Bills were probably looking for a guard who was willing to take veteran minimum. Likely some will be before draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Boxcar said: I don't mean to be negative, but this is why I don't understand the Feliciano deal. Boettger is not much worse, if at all, and excels at the same aspects Mongo does. Yet, he's tendered less than half of what Mongo got. Probably an unpopular take, but Boettger's emergence was a huge reason this offense was successful because Brian Winters was AWFUL. Winters had veteran knowledge and was willing to work harder than Quittin' Spain but Boettger is a better athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Good move. Keeps a lot of o-line combinations on the table. Im sure he will sign a deal at a lower price. I was underwhelmed with him last year. If he is the back up G that is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Boxcar said: I don't mean to be negative, but this is why I don't understand the Feliciano deal. Boettger is not much worse, if at all, and excels at the same aspects Mongo does. Yet, he's tendered less than half of what Mongo got. Probably an unpopular take, but Boettger's emergence was a huge reason this offense was successful because Brian Winters was AWFUL. I believe it means they disagree with you about their relative worth. They think Feliciano is significantly better. So do I, for what it's worth, though I'm not touting him for the Pro Bowl. And while one of Boettger's strengths is that he can play every position on the OL, they played Feliciano in games a fair amount at center last year and didn't see much dropoff. That's big. Edited March 18, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I believe it means they disagree with you about their relative worth. They think Feliciano is significantly better. So do I, for what it's worth, though I'm not touting him for the Pro Bowl. And while one of Boettger's strengths is that he can play every position on the OL, they played Feliciano in games a fair amount at center last year and didn't see much dropoff. That's big. I do not think it necessarily means they think Feliciano is significantly better. Beane and McDermott are big culture guys and there's no doubt Feliciano is probably a great guy in the locker room. They value that more than most, could be the difference. Otherwise, there were clear upgrades at guard on the market who did not command much more than Feliciano did, so from a purely skill based perspective, it doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I am not sure about this - is it over and he is Bills player for 2,1M this year? Or can some other team steal him from us if we get som draft pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdermott Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: I am not sure about this - is it over and he is Bills player for 2,1M this year? Or can some other team steal him from us if we get som draft pick? Bills have right of first refusal so they can match any offer he gets if they choose to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mcdermott said: Bills have right of first refusal so they can match any offer he gets if they choose to. Thanks. I google and find the same here: https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-free-agency-glossary-all-the-terms-you-need-to-know, but I don't see when is the deadline for other teams to make offer. Do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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