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14 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I believe Watt wants to go to a contender, he’s just not interested in a “discount double check”. Don’t think he’s trying to break the bank though. IMO 

What do you think Watt's range is then?  I thought the leak of Cleveland was to put out there that Watt is looking for good money.  It's not just between - Pitt, GB, KC, the Bills and maybe Tampa. 

 

And while I believe Clev is a decent team, it didn't seem a culture fit.  Baker, OBJ are me first, M Garret had big issues.  K Hunt is a talented dirt bag.  Watt has worked hard on his team first, competitive image - floating out the consideration of playing with the me-first weirdos in Cleveland screams payment is a bigger factor than I previously thought.

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Oh please sweet baby Jesus, get it done Beane. Get it done right now

You don’t trade JJ Watt if you’re the Texans, you release him so he can go where he wants. It’s the classy move.

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1 hour ago, whatdrought said:


 

Right, but when your prevent defense let’s them back in the game you’ve done something wrong. Just like the Bills did against the Rams in week 3.
 

Again, the Steelers had the ball at midfield at the end of the third down 12 points having just scored back to back and having forced the browns off the field three straight times. If the Steelers score instead of punting it’s a different game. Again- a huge if and it doesn’t matter cause it didn’t happen. This is the point:

 

The Browns win can be directly associated with 5-6 mistakes made by the Steelers. Some of them were good plays by the browns (the tipped interception, and the first interception was a good catch, but more or a terrible throw), but several of them were just horrible plays by the Steelers. The fumble to start the game, the interception where Ben just threw it to the air and the browns guy was there. The decision to punt. The dropped pick six late in the game.

 

all of this works together to create what I would define as an implosion by the Steelers, which is where this digression began. 

 

Right, prevent defense shouldn't let them back in the game but it typically does make it a lot closer. That's why I hate it. When you have momentum like that it is very hard to turn it off and then turn it back on when you need to.

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Just now, cle23 said:

 

Right, prevent defense shouldn't let them back in the game but it typically does make it a lot closer. That's why I hate it. When you have momentum like that it is very hard to turn it off and then turn it back on when you need to.

 

This i completely agree with. Prevent is ridiculous. It just seems unintuitive to change what you were doing because it was working so well... 

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On 2/12/2021 at 10:29 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Life comes at you fast. They were 11-0 and now headed toward major uncertainty ... need to deal with Villanueva, juju, Dupree as FAs... Ben’s contract is an albatross ... I could see JJ watt and cam on the inside and TJ watt and dupree on the outside but Ben’s arm is falling apart and that overshadows everything 

I mean...no one really saw them as an 11-0 team. People were probably surprised when the WFT beat them but likely not shocked as though they were the Chiefs or Packers.

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2 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

I mean...no one really saw them as an 11-0 team. People were probably surprised when the WFT beat them but likely not shocked as though they were the Chiefs or Packers.

 

I picked the WFT in that game. I actually picked the Ravens to beat them despite no Lamar in the re-arranged thanksgiving game. I could tell it was coming.

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agreed. I was talking more generally about the pecking order in the conference rather than attractiveness to Watt, but I agree totally with your analysis. The three teams I have clustered together are there because they are more limited by their QB situation in different ways. I think they each have another flaw too.... Ravens it is receiving options, the other two it is secondary (and with Tenn pass rush a bit too). The Colts are a solid team with no QB and a lack of special skill players. 

 

As for Watt I see the argument for Tennessee more strongly than I see the argument for Cleveland. Tenn gives him not only a chance to compete but a scheme match and a coaching / ownership familiarity too. Buffalo offers him a scheme change, and no familiarity, but the best chance to win of any of the AFC teams likely to be in the mix. Not sure what the attraction of Cleveland would be. 

Yeah, I agree with all that.  I'd say also that McDermott is an additional attraction.  He knows Vrabel, I know, but I think the word is out around the league that if you really like to play, McDermott is guy you'll really like to play for.  I don't know anything about Tennessee's ownership and management, but I think the word also is out that the Pegulas do everything first class, and Beane is as committed to winning as McDermott - in other words, more or less insanely committed.   Put it all together, and I think that Watt easily could find the Bills to be the most attractive package.   However, it's pretty subjective stuff, so I could understand how he might prefer one of the other teams.  

 

Just writing this, it occurs to me how interesting it is that it's hard to make a case for any NFC team.   I don't think he'd go to the Packers just because he's from Wisconsin, and I'm not convinced about the stability of their QB situation.   I mean, Rodgers is great and all, but he's kind of a prima donna, and the Pack certainly have succession in mind.   Not Dallas or anyone else in the east.  New Orleans has a tougher QB picture.  Tampa, I suppose.  The Rams are unsettled at QB.  Arizona?  Seattle?   The AFC teams would all seem to be much more attractive.

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47 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Maybe theyre all just fans of the popular youtube channel?

 

 

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Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that Watt is “seriously considering” making his way to Cleveland to play for the Browns. Among the reasons that the Browns have caught Watt’s eye is the cap space they have to make a deal with the three-time defensive player of the year as well as a roster he thinks can compete for a Super Bowl.

 

wait what did he say? 
 

a SB contender or a team with cap space?


 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-j-j-watt-seriously-153923165.html
 

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9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Agreed.  I liked the Jefferson signing the most and I feel he can still be a nice rotational player, but his salary suggests he should be more

 

I would try and restructure Jefferson's contract, I think he is a nice rotational player but at 8 million on the cap he isn't worth it, I think . I also would outright cut Butler and ask Addison to restructure his contract. 

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38 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

wait what did he say? 
 

a SB contender or a team with cap space?


 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-j-j-watt-seriously-153923165.html
 

Same story different day. "I want to win a championship get me out of here". Then to new teams , "Oh BTW I also ain't giving you any discount!"

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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Yeah, I agree with all that.  I'd say also that McDermott is an additional attraction.  He knows Vrabel, I know, but I think the word is out around the league that if you really like to play, McDermott is guy you'll really like to play for.  I don't know anything about Tennessee's ownership and management, but I think the word also is out that the Pegulas do everything first class, and Beane is as committed to winning as McDermott - in other words, more or less insanely committed.   Put it all together, and I think that Watt easily could find the Bills to be the most attractive package.   However, it's pretty subjective stuff, so I could understand how he might prefer one of the other teams.  

 

Just writing this, it occurs to me how interesting it is that it's hard to make a case for any NFC team.   I don't think he'd go to the Packers just because he's from Wisconsin, and I'm not convinced about the stability of their QB situation.   I mean, Rodgers is great and all, but he's kind of a prima donna, and the Pack certainly have succession in mind.   Not Dallas or anyone else in the east.  New Orleans has a tougher QB picture.  Tampa, I suppose.  The Rams are unsettled at QB.  Arizona?  Seattle?   The AFC teams would all seem to be much more attractive.

 

Yea Green Bay is the only NFC team that makes sense to me. The chance to go home and that team is right on the brink, and basically plays his scheme. You are right about long term stability but JJ is about to turn 32. I think he is probably intending to play 2 more years. Does he think they have a two year window in the weaker conference? Maybe. He has to weigh all that stuff up. 

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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea Green Bay is the only NFC team that makes sense to me. The chance to go home and that team is right on the brink, and basically plays his scheme. You are right about long term stability but JJ is about to turn 32. I think he is probably intending to play 2 more years. Does he think they have a two year window in the weaker conference? Maybe. He has to weigh all that stuff up. 

 

I'm about to turn 40....what in the bloody are you trying to say ye olde mucker?

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3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

What do you think Watt's range is then?  I thought the leak of Cleveland was to put out there that Watt is looking for good money.  It's not just between - Pitt, GB, KC, the Bills and maybe Tampa. 

 

And while I believe Clev is a decent team, it didn't seem a culture fit.  Baker, OBJ are me first, M Garret had big issues.  K Hunt is a talented dirt bag.  Watt has worked hard on his team first, competitive image - floating out the consideration of playing with the me-first weirdos in Cleveland screams payment is a bigger factor than I previously thought.

 

It's amazing that you know OBJ and Mayfield are "me first." OBJ has that rep, but from the media only. His teammates love him. And Mayfield is the furthest from me first that there is. Watch his reactions when his teammates score. 

 

Garrett had 1 issue, albeit a major one, but his entire history has been of a great guy and teammate.  

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