Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Until the teams know what the salary cap is going to be, I don’t think much gets done. What is taking so long? This is the first day that the franchise tag can be use too but crickets because wtf is the cap #. I mean it’s been estimated anywhere between 175 and 185, we can assume 180 but why the mystery Blame Thursday Night football. No seriously What I read: NFL wants new TV deal finalized before finalizing NFL 2021 Salary Cap -> Networks want Thursday night football settled as part of any new TV deal -> Thursday night football still point of contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cruiserplayer said: I pledge $99 for every sack Over 9.5 in a Bills uniform in 2021. I hope that costs you THOU$AND$!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Release Vernon Butler and Addison and you can sign Watt or any other pass rush help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: I need some good Keto recipes https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/ricotta-cake/ 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Release Vernon Butler and Addison and you can sign Watt or any other pass rush help. Release Butler and Addison and you free up $13M of cap, true Then you've also perhaps got a hole at DL (and is Jefferson >> Butler?) and what about OLB, RT, RG, LG, and KR/PR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/ricotta-cake/ Im actually going to try this one. Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/ricotta-cake/ Release Butler and Addison and you free up $13M of cap, true Then you've also perhaps got a hole at DL (and is Jefferson >> Butler?) and what about OLB, RT, RG, LG, and KR/PR? No you don't. Star is back. There's moves to clear cap. Restructures and cuts. I think a couple moves that make sense to open up cap are extensions for Diggs and Beasley. Hughes also is an extension candidate that would clear cap. Edited February 17, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: https://healthyrecipesblogs.com/ricotta-cake/ Release Butler and Addison and you free up $13M of cap, true Then you've also perhaps got a hole at DL (and is Jefferson >> Butler?) and what about OLB, RT, RG, LG, and KR/PR? I like Addison the best of the bunch, but I'm going all in (or out rather) and cutting Butler, Addison, and Jefferson for a total savings of about $18M. Could we backload contracts with guaranteed money to get around the reduced cap this year? Like both Ngakoue and Watt end up with a hit of only $9M this year (fully guaranteed), but go up significantly with guaranteed money the rest of the years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Mario Watch, Maclin Watch... who are some of our other classic FA tracking threads that went on for 100 pages? Brian Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Mario Watch, Maclin Watch... who are some of our other classic FA tracking threads that went on for 100 pages? TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 What...Mario Williams is busy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What...Mario Williams is busy? If we could get 2013, 2014 Mario back, we'd win the Super Bowl. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: If we could get 2013, 2014 Mario back, we'd win the Super Bowl. What incredibly freaky talent! If his passion for the game was near Josh’s level and he was in the right scheme, we might talk about him in the same breath with Bruce and Reggie White. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What...Mario Williams is busy? Ground up and in the freezer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I like Addison the best of the bunch, but I'm going all in (or out rather) and cutting Butler, Addison, and Jefferson for a total savings of about $18M. Could we backload contracts with guaranteed money to get around the reduced cap this year? Like both Ngakoue and Watt end up with a hit of only $9M this year (fully guaranteed), but go up significantly with guaranteed money the rest of the years... If you cut Butler and Jefferson, I think you leave a hole even if you count on Lotulelei returning in good form and Harrison Phillips returning to early 2019 form 1T: Lotulelei, H. Phillips 3T: Ed Oliver, ?? Zimmer saw spot duty, do you count on him? I understand that guys are allowed to opt out again this year and I wouldn't bet the rent money Star doesn't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you cut Butler and Jefferson, I think you leave a hole even if you count on Lotulelei returning in good form and Harrison Phillips returning to early 2019 form 1T: Lotulelei, H. Phillips 3T: Ed Oliver, ?? Zimmer saw spot duty, do you count on him? I understand that guys are allowed to opt out again this year and I wouldn't bet the rent money Star doesn't do it I would. You'd better believe the NFL is going to be able to vaccine all concerned players before September. And at his age, two years out of football at that position and a team would be hard pressed relying on him for anything more than a rotational piece. As for the holes it would create cutting Butler and Jefferson - Star WILL be back. Then you have Phillips, Zimmer, Practice Squad guys, draft, vet minimum guys before the season; lots of options. If we're talking a hole at 3rd or 4th DT in exchange for us getting JJ Watt - it's a no brainier. Edited February 17, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkx2 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Sound like the Bills are still in the running. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/17/j-j-watt-bills-have-mutual-interest/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you cut Butler and Jefferson, I think you leave a hole even if you count on Lotulelei returning in good form and Harrison Phillips returning to early 2019 form 1T: Lotulelei, H. Phillips 3T: Ed Oliver, ?? Zimmer saw spot duty, do you count on him? I understand that guys are allowed to opt out again this year and I wouldn't bet the rent money Star doesn't do it I mean, any late round pick should be able to replace those guys just fine and for a lot less money. They were nothing but bodies out there for the most part this year. Can't recall a single big play made by either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you cut Butler and Jefferson, I think you leave a hole even if you count on Lotulelei returning in good form and Harrison Phillips returning to early 2019 form 1T: Lotulelei, H. Phillips 3T: Ed Oliver, ?? Zimmer saw spot duty, do you count on him? I understand that guys are allowed to opt out again this year and I wouldn't bet the rent money Star doesn't do it I have wondered about the opt out thing with star.... my question is this: if guys opt out for a second straight year, shouldn’t teams be able to get some kind of relief? I know we wouldn’t have to pay him this year, but if he opts our under the same rules he’d show back up in 2022 for his year 33 season, having been out of football for two years. Kinda a tough row to hoe to be expected to pay him 7+ million. i think it would be wise for the league to say that instead of opting out a second time and contracts deferring, that is a player is still uncomfortable playing, they need a settlement of the contract much like an injury settlement and then say only x% of it counts against the teams cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you cut Butler and Jefferson, I think you leave a hole even if you count on Lotulelei returning in good form and Harrison Phillips returning to early 2019 form 1T: Lotulelei, H. Phillips 3T: Ed Oliver, Watt Zimmer saw spot duty, do you count on him? I understand that guys are allowed to opt out again this year and I wouldn't bet the rent money Star doesn't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie_Klinkhammer Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I see today JJ is looking for the full 17.5 mil per season. Now I understand why he hadn't signed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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