leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 7:30 PM, Mr. WEO said: There's no risk to the plaintiff if others sued are let out by the judge or found to not be liable by a jury. If the Chiefs and/or the NFL feel they are not liable, they certainly won't be offering much in the way of a settlement. If the Chiefs (I don't see where Andy Reid would have to offer a penny at this point) offer money, then they must know that there is something that would come out letting a jury find culpability. If there is something to that, no way a plaintiff's lawyer is going to let a business worth a billion(s?) offer some token amount. If NFL lawyers called up plaintiff's attorney offering some money, then it's open season... But even a potential settlement isn't going to conclude in the next year--in time to take care of placing this poor kid in a brain rehab facility. I think you’re right on with this. The emotional side of most people wants whatever pathetic financial version of justice this young lady and her family can get, and most don’t care where the money comes from. Chiefs, NFL, Andy Reid, whatever. The logical side takes a different perspective. The financial compensation relative to this girl’s injury is virtually impossible to determine at this point. I’d think it would be malpractice to settle a case like this for quite some time. With luck, the value drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery. To suggest the team, NFL or Reid the senior wade into this quagmire if not culpable is the wrong approach. I would think they weigh out the facts, take a good hard look on whether they are going to be brought into this matter and lose, and proceed accordingly. Now, in a rational, peaceful and kind world, nothing would make me happier than all the legal $&@& be put to the side and out of the kindness of their collective hearts the family received assistance on a massive scale. I’d be happier still if the attorneys representing the family offered a reduced fee to put more in their pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think you’re right on with this. The emotional side of most people wants whatever pathetic financial version of justice this young lady and her family can get, and most don’t care where the money comes from. Chiefs, NFL, Andy Reid, whatever. The logical side takes a different perspective. The financial compensation relative to this girl’s injury is virtually impossible to determine at this point. I’d think it would be malpractice to settle a case like this for quite some time. With luck, the value drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery. To suggest the team, NFL or Reid the senior wade into this quagmire if not culpable is the wrong approach. I would think they weigh out the facts, take a good hard look on whether they are going to be brought into this matter and lose, and proceed accordingly. Now, in a rational, peaceful and kind world, nothing would make me happier than all the legal $&@& be put to the side and out of the kindness of their collective hearts the family received assistance on a massive scale. I’d be happier still if the attorneys representing the family offered a reduced fee to put more in their pocket. Unfortunately for this innocent child, the “when” matters a lot. The amount ultimately matters too, but this family is heavily emotionally suffering and forced into an impossible financial situation. There is nothing preventing any culpable party from anonymously giving to the go fund me but I doubt that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think you’re right on with this. The emotional side of most people wants whatever pathetic financial version of justice this young lady and her family can get, and most don’t care where the money comes from. Chiefs, NFL, Andy Reid, whatever. The logical side takes a different perspective. The financial compensation relative to this girl’s injury is virtually impossible to determine at this point. I’d think it would be malpractice to settle a case like this for quite some time. With luck, the value drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery. To suggest the team, NFL or Reid the senior wade into this quagmire if not culpable is the wrong approach. I would think they weigh out the facts, take a good hard look on whether they are going to be brought into this matter and lose, and proceed accordingly. Now, in a rational, peaceful and kind world, nothing would make me happier than all the legal $&@& be put to the side and out of the kindness of their collective hearts the family received assistance on a massive scale. I’d be happier still if the attorneys representing the family offered a reduced fee to put more in their pocket. Why should any of those involved be deserving of such "luck"? The kindness in their hearts wasn't evident when he downed a bunch of drinks after work (?at work?) and got behind the wheel drunk for perhaps the hundredth time this year. So don't look for it in court. The NFL has no culpability whatsoever. This is less likely for Reid's employer (enabler), the Chiefs. But there is zero chance anyone offers the family anything unless they are named in a suit. When he is convicted and they (Chiefs, for instance) are sued, they will be more inclined to settle this suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 In cases like this, I think we really need real-life Dirty Harry's and Death Wish Charles Bronson's to make sure justice is done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Unfortunately for this innocent child, the “when” matters a lot. The amount ultimately matters too, but this family is heavily emotionally suffering and forced into an impossible financial situation. There is nothing preventing any culpable party from anonymously giving to the go fund me but I doubt that will happen. I think the chances of a culpable party giving anonymously to any great deal are pretty low, especially given the culpability part. Now, AR assuming he has no skin in the game, donating a mill or two of his 10, 20 or 30 mill fortune (whatever that may be) because he grieves for the victim and what the family is going through, that would be a beautiful thing indeed. On the settlement, I agree on the when, but in the big picture, the outcome of her injuries and her recovery really matters and that’s not going to be resolved for quite some time into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why should any of those involved be deserving of such "luck"? The kindness in their hearts wasn't evident when he downed a bunch of drinks after work (?at work?) and got behind the wheel drunk for perhaps the hundredth time this year. So don't look for it in court. The NFL has no culpability whatsoever. This is less likely for Reid's employer (enabler), the Chiefs. But there is zero chance anyone offers the family anything unless they are named in a suit. When he is convicted and they (Chiefs, for instance) are sued, they will be more inclined to settle this suit. Wrongo Captain Misunderstandingman. The luck I was referring to was that the child with a severe head injury recovers fully, with no residual injury and no permanent disability. They can throw the book criminally and financially at the guy who caused the injuries even assuming a full recovery. The worst possible outcome for this girl and her family is a massive verdict because she “deserves it” because she’s permanently disabled and needs care in perpetuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Wrongo Captain Misunderstandingman. The luck I was referring to was that the child with a severe head injury recovers fully, with no residual injury and no permanent disability. They can throw the book criminally and financially at the guy who caused the injuries even assuming a full recovery. The worst possible outcome for this girl and her family is a massive verdict because she “deserves it” because she’s permanently disabled and needs care in perpetuity. lol..."misunderstood" you? Nope. You're not much of a puzzle. Here's what you posted: "With luck, the value [of the settlement] drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery." The settlement value dropping would be lucky for the defendant, not the the plaintiff, who always benefits from maximum reward. Certainly her recovery would be "lucky" for everyone involved. But the drop in the dollar value of a settlement only benefits those getting sued. Maybe if you had actually said: "With luck, she recovers completely, regardless of the subsequent settlement amount". And why wouldn't she "deserve it"(and why in quotes?)--a massive award--if she is permanently disabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think you’re right on with this. The emotional side of most people wants whatever pathetic financial version of justice this young lady and her family can get, and most don’t care where the money comes from. Chiefs, NFL, Andy Reid, whatever. The logical side takes a different perspective. The financial compensation relative to this girl’s injury is virtually impossible to determine at this point. I’d think it would be malpractice to settle a case like this for quite some time. With luck, the value drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery. The "cleft stick" for the family is that the best brain-injury treatment is very costly, and payment may have to be guaranteed up front. Medical insurance will try to minimize what they pay for using sometimes unrealistic definitions of "progress" then saying "insufficient progress, patient not rehabilitatable, therapy no longer authorized". Let's not get into what Medicaid offers in MO, if the family should have to rely on Medicaid. Meanwhile the child's best chance at the best outcome possible for her, lies in early and intense therapy at the best places. So yes, I see your point that parties involved would want to hold back from a settlement to see how well she recovers, but hold back and she may not recover as well as she could, because the optimal window for brain trauma recovery will close without being able to pay to deliver the optimal care to the child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol..."misunderstood" you? Nope. You're not much of a puzzle. Here's what you posted: "With luck, the value [of the settlement] drops (relatively speaking) because she makes a complete recovery." The settlement value dropping would be lucky for the defendant, not the the plaintiff, who always benefits from maximum reward. Certainly her recovery would be "lucky" for everyone involved. But the drop in the dollar value of a settlement only benefits those getting sued. Maybe if you had actually said: "With luck, she recovers completely, regardless of the subsequent settlement amount". I And why wouldn't she "deserve it"(and why in quotes?)--a massive award--if she is permanently disabled? Ah, I see. I didn’t think I was much of a puzzle either, but I’m apparently a mahfahkin Rubik's Cube. You placed the emphasis on the money, the luck in this case has very little to do with the money, everything to do with her recovery. $27,000,000 and permanently disabled with a brain injury is bad $&&$ing outcome. To be clear, I hope is that the girl fully recovers, that BR is charged with a crime where a crime is warranted, serves jail time commensurate with the charges, that he is punished financially for the injuries that resulted from his stupidity and carelessness, and that the young lady and her family receive a large settlement (or verdict should it go that route) because she suffered traumatic injuries as a result of his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Ah, I see. I didn’t think I was much of a puzzle either, but I’m apparently a mahfahkin Rubik's Cube. You placed the emphasis on the money, the luck in this case has very little to do with the money, everything to do with her recovery. $27,000,000 and permanently disabled with a brain injury is bad $&&$ing outcome. To be clear, I hope is that the girl fully recovers, that BR is charged with a crime where a crime is warranted, serves jail time commensurate with the charges, that he is punished financially for the injuries that resulted from his stupidity and carelessness, and that the young lady and her family receive a large settlement (or verdict should it go that route) because she suffered traumatic injuries as a result of his actions. Wouldn't it be more "lucky" for her if she has full recovery and a massive award? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) About time - hope they throw the entire book at him. Wish they could take his past into account - 7 years is not enough for the damage caused. BAC = 0.113 - complete Jackwagon. Hope this speeds up the money to the family. Edited April 12, 2021 by Rochesterfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Maybe it’s the cynic in me. But I’d be shocked if this idiot did any jail time at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klapaucius Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Maybe it’s the cynic in me. But I’d be shocked if this idiot did any jail time at all. I agree with you. Enough family money to hire the right lawyers to get probation and community service. If he does serve time, it will be minimal in a minimum security prison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He was going 89 MPH?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: He was going 89 MPH?! On an on-ramp he's lucky nobody died. Edited April 12, 2021 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: He was going 89 MPH?! I just heard “just under 84 mph” on NFL Live, for what that’s worth. Still crazy, stupid fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Warcodered said: On an on-ramp he's lucky nobody died. I don’t even know how you generate that sort of speed on an on-ramp. Even if he hadn’t hit that car, he was probably going to crash somewhere that night. 32 minutes ago, Augie said: I just heard “just under 84 mph” on NFL Live, for what that’s worth. Still crazy, stupid fast. I misread it. You are right— it was 83.9 mph. Just insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, Augie said: I just heard “just under 84 mph” on NFL Live, for what that’s worth. Still crazy, stupid fast. No, it’s really not. Not in Florida. All highway lanes are much wider than any in NYS. 80mph is honestly near the average speed on major arteries. How do I know? Cuz I drive them every day doing 80-83. It’s the flow of traffic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cantankeous said: No, it’s really not. Not in Florida. All highway lanes are much wider than any in NYS. 80mph is honestly near the average speed on major arteries. How do I know? Cuz I drive them every day doing 80-83. It’s the flow of traffic here. On ramp 65 mph speed limit Missouri Highway 70 mph speed limit Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cantankeous said: No, it’s really not. Not in Florida. All highway lanes are much wider than any in NYS. 80mph is honestly near the average speed on major arteries. How do I know? Cuz I drive them every day doing 80-83. It’s the flow of traffic here. I lived in Florida for 18 years. I maintain 84 mph on an exit ramp is WAY too fast. And he wasn’t in Florida (or NYS) where everything is flat as a table and generally straight. No idea what his exact conditions were, but I generally go about 7-8 mph over the limit (so top out at 78 mph in the highest speed limits available) ON THE HIGHWAY. He was on an exit ramp. Too fast. EDIT: if it was an entry ramp (I’m honestly not sure and post above made me question) that’s even worse! He wasn’t slowing down from excessive highway speed. He was just flying. . Edited April 12, 2021 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerovoltz Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 First....before I get shelled here...I hope he gets the book thrown at him and gets the max....and that the girl recovers and gets whatever they can get from whoever needs to be sending it....the whole thing is awful... I just wanted to answer the question about the speed on this particular on ramp as I am very familiar with the area. The ramp this happend on is a LONG ramp. ...there are 2 ramps that come out of Arrowhead and the practice facility. the first one becomes part of the 2nd one before it finally merges onto the interstate there. I don't know where he entered...either way, the ramps are long, but if you enter the longest ramp, it's nearly a mile long....plent of time and space to get up to a high speed...even the shorter 2nd ramp, is almost half a mile long....(this is probalby the one he took from what I understand) Even sadder is that these 2 ramps are both very rarely used by non gameday traffic...so it's not a high traffic area at all at the time when this happend. Lastly....given the area.....it's HIGHLY unlikely that he was drinking somewhere other than at hte Chiefs facilities...the area simply doesn't have the sort of establishments nearby where you'd stop and get drunk....coming down the ramp he came down....take my word for it....you'd only use that ramp if you were coming from the stadium or practice facility. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) Hardcore alcoholics aren’t constrained by “normal” places in space and time when it comes to drinking. I had a coworker once who was killed by a drunk driver during the morning commute at 8:30am. I don’t think it’s too big a leap to guess this guy got sh**faced at the team facility. Edited April 13, 2021 by jimmy10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, jimmy10 said: Hardcore alcoholics aren’t constrained by “normal” places in space and time when it comes to drinking. I had a coworker once who was killed by a drunk driver during the morning commute at 8:30am. I don’t think it’s too big a leap to guess this guy got sh**faced at the team facility. or in a car. I had a coworker who had a "thermos if coffee" which rarely had coffee in it. He spilled it once at work and what came out was definitely not coffee. I'd see him in his car with thermos open many times in parking lot. He had an accident while driving company rental car leaving a customer site and had an accident. He had barely left customer site, no time for stopping for a drink, and was cited for DWI and open container. He lost job and clearance. Company refused to pay bills because he was at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: He was going 89 MPH?! 83.9 mph, on the entrance ramp To be fair, as @Zerovoltz said, it's a long straight entrance ramp But it's also two lanes wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: On ramp 65 mph speed limit Missouri Highway 70 mph speed limit Florida Thank you, Officer Stadanko. I’ll try to remember... NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 11 hours ago, jimmy10 said: Hardcore alcoholics aren’t constrained by “normal” places in space and time when it comes to drinking. I had a coworker once who was killed by a drunk driver during the morning commute at 8:30am. I don’t think it’s too big a leap to guess this guy got sh**faced at the team facility. 10 hours ago, Limeaid said: or in a car. I had a coworker who had a "thermos if coffee" which rarely had coffee in it. He spilled it once at work and what came out was definitely not coffee. I'd see him in his car with thermos open many times in parking lot. He had an accident while driving company rental car leaving a customer site and had an accident. He had barely left customer site, no time for stopping for a drink, and was cited for DWI and open container. He lost job and clearance. Company refused to pay bills because he was at fault. As previously speculated, he was likely drinking at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Read an article that said the family of the little girl isn't happy with the felony dui charge he got and thought it wasn't enough. I'm not sure what else he could be chrged with though considering the circumstances. I mean nobody got killed (thankfully), so what else could he be charged with that would be more severe? I get why the family feels that way for sure but I think the charge he got was about the most he could get pinned with as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Read an article that said the family of the little girl isn't happy with the felony dui charge he got and thought it wasn't enough. I'm not sure what else he could be chrged with though considering the circumstances. I mean nobody got killed (thankfully), so what else could he be charged with that would be more severe? I get why the family feels that way for sure but I think the charge he got was about the most he could get pinned with as far as I know. classic case of punishing the outcome instead of the action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Read an article that said the family of the little girl isn't happy with the felony dui charge he got and thought it wasn't enough. I'm not sure what else he could be chrged with though considering the circumstances. I mean nobody got killed (thankfully), so what else could he be charged with that would be more severe? I get why the family feels that way for sure but I think the charge he got was about the most he could get pinned with as far as I know. Get creative and go for assault with a deadly weapon. 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: As previously speculated, he was likely drinking at work. The family’s attorneys should aggressively pursue the Chiefs. If there was a party or even if he could be seen drinking on a security camera, I’d think it’s possible that the pockets got deeper. If the security footage is unavailable/deleted, there could be an angle I’d think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Get creative and go for assault with a deadly weapon. The family’s attorneys should aggressively pursue the Chiefs. If there was a party or even if he could be seen drinking on a security camera, I’d think it’s possible that the pockets got deeper. If the security footage is unavailable/deleted, there could be an angle I’d think. I guess they could, not sure how much more severe that is than the felony dui and facing a 7 yr bid. But that family wants him charged with everything possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Read an article that said the family of the little girl isn't happy with the felony dui charge he got and thought it wasn't enough. I'm not sure what else he could be chrged with though considering the circumstances. I mean nobody got killed (thankfully), so what else could he be charged with that would be more severe? I get why the family feels that way for sure but I think the charge he got was about the most he could get pinned with as far as I know. Got a link? Edit: OK I found one Quote The family’s attorney, Tom Porto, told local media that prosecutors charged Reid with what they could, given the restrictions of the state law. Local attorneys who focus on DWI laws concurred. Even though multiple vehicles were hit and multiple people were injured (both Miller and her sister who was with her, Angela Saenz, also lost consciousness in the crash) Missouri law considers it just one incident and thus just one crime to charge. That isn’t the case everywhere. “If this was [across the border] in Kansas, I bet there’d be multiple felony battery charges,” said Chris Scott, a former local prosecutor and now defense attorney for the Christopher Scott Law Offices in Kansas City. That’s little solace to the family though. Part of their anger stems from Reid’s lengthy history of serious criminal and substance abuse, even if it may not qualify as “chronic” to the State of Missouri. In 2007, the now 35-year-old was sentenced in Pennsylvania to up to 23 months in prison for a road-rage incident (he was paroled after five months into a treatment program). That same year he pleaded guilty to DUI and drug charges stemming from a separate incident where he crashed his vehicle into a shopping cart in a parking lot. He was in possession of more than 200 prescription pills that day. Yet here he was, all these years later, allegedly drinking and driving and caring about no one but himself. But my guess is that if the prosecutors wanted to, they could come up with additional crimes and charges: -reckless driving? -endangering a child? -attempted manslaughter? Not a lawyer, it just seems that when prosecutors really want to get someone, they find additional charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Got a link? Was on yahoo. Will go try and find it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Was on yahoo. Will go try and find it... I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Got a link? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2021/04/12/britt-reid-charge-dwi-ariel-young-family-chiefs/7196474002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Got a link? Edit: OK I found one But my guess is that if the prosecutors wanted to, they could come up with additional crimes and charges: -reckless driving? -endangering a child? -attempted manslaughter? Not a lawyer, it just seems that when prosecutors really want to get someone, they find additional charges. They could add those additional charges but most would get dropped anyway. Also with the way money talks he may even just get a mild wrist slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Get creative and go for assault with a deadly weapon. The family’s attorneys should aggressively pursue the Chiefs. If there was a party or even if he could be seen drinking on a security camera, I’d think it’s possible that the pockets got deeper. If the security footage is unavailable/deleted, there could be an angle I’d think. I doubt you would need video. I bet it was an open secret this guy was boozing in the building on the regular. It will come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: They could add those additional charges but most would get dropped anyway. Also with the way money talks he may even just get a mild wrist slap. His money talked him out of jail time the last DUI he had. It's not going to help him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/assault-second-degree-missouri.htm “-recklessly causes serious physical injury to another -while intoxicated by drugs or alcohol, operates a motor vehicle with criminal negligence and causes physical injury to another” Edited April 13, 2021 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 18 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: First....before I get shelled here...I hope he gets the book thrown at him and gets the max....and that the girl recovers and gets whatever they can get from whoever needs to be sending it....the whole thing is awful... I just wanted to answer the question about the speed on this particular on ramp as I am very familiar with the area. The ramp this happend on is a LONG ramp. ...there are 2 ramps that come out of Arrowhead and the practice facility. the first one becomes part of the 2nd one before it finally merges onto the interstate there. I don't know where he entered...either way, the ramps are long, but if you enter the longest ramp, it's nearly a mile long....plent of time and space to get up to a high speed...even the shorter 2nd ramp, is almost half a mile long....(this is probalby the one he took from what I understand) Even sadder is that these 2 ramps are both very rarely used by non gameday traffic...so it's not a high traffic area at all at the time when this happend. Lastly....given the area.....it's HIGHLY unlikely that he was drinking somewhere other than at hte Chiefs facilities...the area simply doesn't have the sort of establishments nearby where you'd stop and get drunk....coming down the ramp he came down....take my word for it....you'd only use that ramp if you were coming from the stadium or practice facility. I don’t think anyone is defending him going 84.9MPH while drunk. But your explanation of the ramp does help clarify this in my mind. The way they described an “on ramp,” it made it sound like your traditional on ramp, and I had no idea how someone could accelerate like that on a normal on ramp (which I would expect would have a sharp curve too). This sounds almost more like some long access road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I don’t think anyone is defending him going 84.9MPH while drunk. But your explanation of the ramp does help clarify this in my mind. The way they described an “on ramp,” it made it sound like your traditional on ramp, and I had no idea how someone could accelerate like that on a normal on ramp (which I would expect would have a sharp curve too). This sounds almost more like some long access road. Yeah, that's kind of what it's like. Long two-lane access road that feeds straight into the highway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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