YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Maybe he doesn't like a lot of personal possessions in his daily life, but he wants money for other reasons - family, business plans, world travel, buy a yacht... It’s a simple yacht. No frills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s a simple yacht. No frills. Well. There ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 11 hours ago, klos63 said: Money wasn't his big issue in High School? I did not know him personally but the majority of his high school comes from well off parents. His high school pulls from neighborhoods that former athletes live in. I doubt money was an issue to him like so many NFL players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 22 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: I don't know how many times this opinion has been shut down by the coaching staff. Edmunds will not be changing positions. never say never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 8:18 AM, Buffalo Timmy said: Every player should say he wants top dollar since it is a cutthroat business but from what I have heard about him from his high school coaches he values winning as much as money, so he is likely to take less than top dollar to stay on a good team. What high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What high school? Dr phillips in orlando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 11:38 AM, gonzo1105 said: I think were gonna see both Milano and Daryl Williams go. They are going to get big money elsewhere. It seems to mean Beane will be digging into bargains/cut players this year. This is the beginning of the replacing Free Agents with "Draft well" guys. I got a feeling that if we re-sign Williams, he’s going to regress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Madbillsfan said: I got a feeling that if we re-sign Williams, he’s going to regress. Why do you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) On 2/24/2021 at 9:21 PM, BuffaloRebound said: Appreciate the story. Just seems strange that the Bills and Milano skipped right to Milano is testing free agency more than 3 weeks from free agency. I guess that implies Bills won’t be using franchise or transition tag on him and that they’re done negotiating if they had any negotiations at all. Not familiar with any other high profile free agents across the League where this has been publicly stated except for Milano. Why would Beane give other teams a 3 week head start on knowing Milano is gonna be available if Beane has any interest in retaining him? Bye Matt. My guess is the Bills decided Milano is not a gotta keep player regardless of the cost. So they decided to let him get an offer or two and then circle back to the Bills and see what they are willing to offer him. It reminds me of Shaq Lawson last year. The Bills wanted Shaq back but were only willing to go so high and Miami offered him more money. Milano is likely leaving because some team will offer him a contract that Bills can't/won't match. Edited February 26, 2021 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Why do you think that? Because of his success and it’s rarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) On 22/02/2021 at 10:38 AM, Thurman#1 said: And the reason you can't be great at every position has a lot more to do with human fallibility than money. No it isn't. It's money. It's why a rookie QB contract is the best time to win a SuperBowl. Virtually every SuperBowl winner with a 2nd contract QB has some obvious roster flaw, there isn't enough cap money not to. Its why paying for competent but not elite QBs puts teams into mediocrity cycles. The Milano issue is also made easier by this year's draft. There are plenty of options, its one of the better positions this year. Every position ranking article I've seen has it in the top half this year Edited February 28, 2021 by Mountain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: No it isn't. It's money. It's why a rookie QB contract is the best time to win a SuperBowl. Virtually every SuperBowl winner with a 2nd contract QB has some obvious roster flaw, there isn't enough cap money not to. Its why paying for competent but not elite QBs puts teams into mediocrity cycles No, it isn't money. It's human fallibility. A perfect GM who always made the exact correct pick every round and brought in the best possible bargains at FA would in a not very long time end up winning most Super Bowls. And if rookie QB contracts are the best time to win a Super Bowl, how come most Super Bowls are not won by QBs on rookie contracts? How come no QBs on rookie contracts even made the SB this year? Obviously, a rookie contract for your QB helps you financially, but And paying for competent but not elite QBs can either put your team into mediocrity cycles or win you Super Bowls (Nick Foles' Philly contract when the Eagles won behind Wentz and Foles, for example, or when Denver won with Peyton well beyond his elite years, or paying for Eli Manning who was a very good QB but certainly never elite). Paying too much for a QB is an excellent example of human fallibility. It often means a GM is desperate to post a winning record the next year or two in a poorly guided mission to keep his job. Don't get me wrong, the cap is huge, I get that. But my post you replied to said that the reason you can't "be great at every position" was human fallibility rather than money, and that's correct. GM fallibility for bringing in the wrong guys and player fallibility for not maximizing themselves. Imagine if you could've put Josh Allen's brain inside JaMarcus Russell. Carson Wentz begins to look like a guy who could also stand a brain transfusion from a great QB, though it's still early enough that he's got a chance to be great. Even the teams with the best salary cap situations can't address every position well enough to be great at every position, or even close. On 2/25/2021 at 11:09 PM, colin said: never say never It ain't us, it's the coaching staff. They drafted him and immediately declared him MLB and they've backed that up ever since. It's nutsy fans who want him to change in Buffalo. It's not the Bills. Edited February 28, 2021 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 On 2/21/2021 at 10:37 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: He just posted two things on Instagram: 1) himself at Papi's Steakhouse in Miami with a yacht salesman (like literally - tagged guy who is identified as a yacht salesman) This is Milano's dream. ⬆️ This is the probable reality. ⬇️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: This is Milano's dream. ⬆️ This is the probable reality. ⬇️ Why do people post this stuff? Even as a 5th round draft choice on a rookie deal, Milano reportedly has earned $4M in the last 4 years. That puts him in the top 0.07% of the US population. Even if he doesn't get the top-10 LB contract of his dreams, he can buy a damned fine boat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why do people post this stuff? Even as a 5th round draft choice on a rookie deal, Milano reportedly has earned $4M in the last 4 years. That puts him in the top 0.07% of the US population. Even if he doesn't get the top-10 LB contract of his dreams, he can buy a damned fine boat. Understood, and I am not understating his value as a player. I was just enjoying the fact that earlier in the thread it was mentioned that perhaps Milano's agent might be inflating his worth. I projected it out as therefore inflating Milano's expectations regarding his range of boats available. Perhaps I should have Googled something other than 'guy eating sandwich in boat'. 😁 Edited February 28, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Understood, and I am not understating his value as a player. I was just enjoy the fact that earlier in the thread it was mentioned that perhaps Milano's agent might be inflating his worth. I projected it out as therefore inflating Milano's expectations regarding his range of boats available. Perhaps I should have Googled something other than 'guy eating sandwich in boat'. 😁 I suppose it's just my personal tick when people start talking about players who get cut after a fully- or partly-guaranteed rookie contract as bound for "flipping burgers" or something. It's certainly true that guys who dedicated themselves to the craft of football in college, didn't obtain a degree or any useful skills, and didn't make it in the NFL might wind up working minimum wage jobs. Guys who come into the NFL like Vince Young and spend big money buying cars and flashy diamond-studded jewelry might wind up there. But guys who actually make it to the NFL, even as a practice squad member, are doing OK. Rookies who go through training camp and are signed to the practice squad earn around $150,000 (plus room board and travel pre-season, and food during the season). That puts them in the 90+ percentile for all US workers, and certainly at the top edge for guys fresh out of college, where the average starting salary is $50,000. In his Tim Graham and Friends podcast when he interviewed Jon Feliciano who was sitting on his patio outside in Florida, Graham nagged him to pan around his yard and show it and asked him if it was his new house. Mongo has a beautiful high-roofed patio with nice furniture and shade curtains, and a large in-ground pool, but nothing too "ultra" by well-to-do S. Florida standards. Graham commented that people would think he doesn't need a big contract since he's already got all that. I thought it was an ultra-tacky comment by Graham, especially after Jon Zoomed in to talk to him and he persuaded Jon to forfeit some privacy and show him. Again, just my personal tick, your post isn't any more "extra" than a lot here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Interestingly enough, there is a former Bill (I'm reluctant to give name) who specializes in making sure that the Mongo's, Milanos, and others maintain the wealth they accumulate as active players. He tries to get to them early. By all accounts, he's been very successful w athletes and their financial planning. My sense is that players trust him because, in fact, he played, and he's damn good at what he does (and really a good dude on top of it all). Hopefully, all our young players turn to this guy (or others like him) so there is no DT situation down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Lots of Milano hate on here. Cant blame the guy for wanting to get top dollar. Meanwhile there was so much love for Watt, who already made his millions during his career. This is Milano’s shot to make it count. Hopefully we’re able to bring him back but if it doesnt work out then wish him the best. 2 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfla10 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Is his replacement on the team. OR what about Denzel Perrymen from the Chargers. Or (havent seen his contract) Bills give up a pick for Shaq Thompson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) I think the Bills might go with what's on the roster plus adding a big safety type player. I also think they're going to sign Kirksey to a cap friendly contract. Edited March 8, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 No. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 All sorts of angles to pursue - getting a flashy FA like Haason Reddick, giving Dodson a chance, spending a high draft pick on a sure-thing, a value FA like how Darryl Williams was for us this year, spending a mid-round pick like how Milano was (only for him to gradually take over), a completely unexpected trade... Let's see! I'm sure we all have full faith, confidence, and optimism in this staff figuring it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 The Raiders have a free agent named Nicholas Morrow who I think could be a low key Milano replacement. He doesn't get as much publicity as Milano but he is a similar player. I think the Raiders want to bring him back, but if he gets to the tampering period without signing a contract I would for sure put in a call to his agent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I don't see the Bills spending much on a Milano replacement this offseason. They're going to try to make it work on the cheaper side. They will focus on OL, DL, CB, and TE this offseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, dbfla10 said: Is his replacement on the team. OR what about Denzel Perrymen from the Chargers. Or (havent seen his contract) Bills give up a pick for Shaq Thompson. Lol I’m guessing you’ve never actually watched shaq Thompson play have you?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 My hope and prediction is that his actual long term replacement is in the draft. 2nd/3rd round. And a vet will be signed as well in FA who is starting caliber but not a superstar in the short term as they ease in the rookie. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anguskeenan Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Isn't Klein a virtual lock to be on the team given the way his contract is structured versus the cap? Why wouldn't it just be Edmonds and Klein/Dodson with a long-term replacement by draft? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: My hope and prediction is that his actual long term replacement is in the draft. 2nd/3rd round. And a vet will be signed as well in FA who is starting caliber but not a superstar in the short term as they ease in the rookie. How many are worthy of being drafted in the First 3 rounds this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, anguskeenan said: Isn't Klein a virtual lock to be on the team given the way his contract is structured versus the cap? Why wouldn't it just be Edmonds and Klein/Dodson with a long-term replacement by draft? I think they're comfortable with that. They will need someone for nickle, which is their base defense. 3rd safety could be a sneaky signing this offseason. Someone that likes to play around the line of scrimmage and cover TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Just Finished watching the Seahawks/Bills game yesterday, Klein had a monster day and so did Edmonds. I think that they work well together. I don't think Milano is going to get the money he thinks given his injury history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, anguskeenan said: Isn't Klein a virtual lock to be on the team given the way his contract is structured versus the cap? Why wouldn't it just be Edmonds and Klein/Dodson with a long-term replacement by draft? He will definitely be on the team. Still think they add one too before the draft, ie kirksey, because they won’t know for sure how the draft will play out. Plus they need to get to 90 players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 KJ Wright please 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: KJ Wright please 😀 He was great on house hunters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: KJ Wright please 😀 He's going to be in the 10-12m per year range, probably... pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Spotrac has KJ Wright at 7.1M per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 11:26 AM, RyanC883 said: Not sure that AFC Championship game helped him. He's an above-average LB, albeit replaceable. How many of those tackles were TFL? yeah just casual analysis seems like he made a lot of tackles 6-8 yards down field falling backwards. I may live to regret this but I'd rather have a LB, at least one, that thumps runners at the LoS even if he misses sometimes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Motorin' said: How many are worthy of being drafted in the First 3 rounds this year? 10-12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He will definitely be on the team. Still think they add one too before the draft, ie kirksey, because they won’t know for sure how the draft will play out. Plus they need to get to 90 players. If you're an advocate of adding Kirksey, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you're an advocate of adding Kirksey, why? Not advocating as much as connecting dots. Bills were very much after him last year so they must see a fit. He is a versatile LB who would have rotated with Edmunds and Milano last year. this year he would rotate with Edmunds and Klein. He also played a ton of ST when he was in Cleveland. He’s the type of player that McDermott likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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