JoPoy88 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, dneveu said: Thats a bit unfair. They missed starters in quite a few games James missed the season. Pouncey also didn't play all season. Harris missed 8 weeks. Ekeler missed 6 weeks. Ingram missed 9 weeks. Bosa missed 4 weeks. Bulaga played 38% of snaps. Allen/Williams/Henry all missed time this year. There were weeks where they were on their 4th string back. It's not an excuse of course - but I'm going to assume they regress next season. I agree on the special teams part - but its hard to make a coaching adjustment like that mid-season. Top 10 in offense and defense yardage wise to me seems like neither unit could get it done in the 4th quarter. It’s absolutely fair. In fact, I was generous - I did not even bring up Lynn’s misadventures in clock management. He’s a total failure at HC. Sucks to say it, I liked him a lot when he was here. The fact that you highlight the team’s high rankings on offense and defense actually prove my point even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: So not everything went against him then...... 😄 - Turner missed a ton of time too. Essentially they spent tons of money on oline and they all got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: This is why I figured this would be the threat to Daboll. Best thing we can do now is make it to the Super Bowl, drag this out as long as possible to give the owner a chance to make a stupid decision. But this does make it harder not only because he's got a real shot here but if this takes whoever the Texans want then that one becomes more likely for Daboll as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is the job that I fear most we lost Daboll to. Bad luck Anthony. You just aren't quite cut out for it. Pretty sure Daboll went to high school with Tom Telesco, may be wrong but pretty sure thats the case. This is the exact job I was worried would open up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Why do a lot of people think Daboll will want to leave? He might be happy just being an OC and especially with this O. The grass is always greener on the other side of the street......until you get there. The grass may not be greener but the money is. Daboll will probably be able to command a 9 or 10 mil a year contract. No way he is turning that down and there are way to many very good HC openings to choose from this year. He is 100% without a doubt gone after this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Supposedly the top choices for the job are Meyer and Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, dneveu said: 😄 - Turner missed a ton of time too. Essentially they spent tons of money on oline and they all got hurt. Yea I like Trai Turner I think he is a decent guard when healthy which he basically hasn't been all year. But Bulaga was one odd signing. A declining career right tackle who you are expecting to come in and protect a rookie QB's blindside and then pay him as if he will be able to do it. Bizarre, and I said so at the time too. Green Bay upgraded at RT with Rick Wagner IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Why do a lot of people think Daboll will want to leave? He might be happy just being an OC and especially with this O. The grass is always greener on the other side of the street......until you get there. This here as well. Part of me thinks he will stay and that Pegula will pay the man enough money to convince him to stay, I think Brian knows he’s got something special here and most of his family lives in Buffalo and he grew up a Bills fan and called this his dream job when he first got it. I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Pay the man Terry and keep him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, JoPoy88 said: It’s absolutely fair. In fact, I was generous - I did not even bring up Lynn’s misadventures in clock management. He’s a total failure at HC. Sucks to say it, I liked him a lot when he was here. The fact that you highlight the team’s high rankings on offense and defense actually prove my point even more. Ingame management issues were definitely there. Twitter called him out on the end of the bills game when herbert ran a sneak - I don't think Lynn called that or would've told him that it was smart to do so. Bad timeouts, etc. Those are hallmarks of a new coach, and he isn't a new coach so thats fair to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Why do a lot of people think Daboll will want to leave? He might be happy just being an OC and especially with this O. The grass is always greener on the other side of the street......until you get there. He interviewed for the Browns opening last year so he’s shown interest in being a HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The grass may not be greener but the money is. Daboll will probably be able to command a 9 or 10 mil a year contract. No way he is turning that down and there are way to many very good HC openings to choose from this year. He is 100% without a doubt gone after this year. You never know, maybe he doesn’t want to be a HC. Some guys are better coordinators than HC’s. And if Terry backs up the brinks truck for him I think he will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I’m not even sure Daboll is the best fit here. If I was LA, Robert Saleh might be the guy I want the most. The offense is set, and quite good. The defense... Ewwwww. Saleh is the guy I wanna bring in to get the most from that defense. If Lynn and Steichen or whatever his name is can get that much from Herbert even when missing ekeler a ton and Keenan Allen hurt some and Mike Williams hurt some you don’t need an offensive guru to come in and fix what ain’t broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: This here as well. Part of me thinks he will stay and that Pegula will pay the man enough money to convince him to stay, I think Brian knows he’s got something special here and most of his family lives in Buffalo and he grew up a Bills fan and called this his dream job when he first got it. I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Pay the man Terry and keep him The highest paid OC is around 3 mil a year and Daboll will be able to pick his team and will easily be paid 10+ mil a year as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: He interviewed for the Browns opening last year so he’s shown interest in being a HC. Doesn’t necessarily mean he will get it, coaches interview all the time but it’s up to the front office who gets picked. There’s a lot more names out there than just Daboll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Why do a lot of people think Daboll will want to leave? He might be happy just being an OC and especially with this O. The grass is always greener on the other side of the street......until you get there. lol no. Wishful thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Could have been fired on the spot for game Managment v Bills. Did awesome his first few years at SD then it wore off. The Wade Phillips cycle. Good then great then decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Ugh as I see this as being one situation Dabol will leave Buffalo for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: This here as well. Part of me thinks he will stay and that Pegula will pay the man enough money to convince him to stay, I think Brian knows he’s got something special here and most of his family lives in Buffalo and he grew up a Bills fan and called this his dream job when he first got it. I’m keeping my fingers crossed. Pay the man Terry and keep him I mean - LA... Good relationship with GM... Solid QB... Good pieces sprinkled across the roster. Ingram, Henry, Pouncey come off the books so there's some cap space there as well. Could continue to build along the oline, get some young talent there. Could also see them invest in cornerbacks this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The highest paid OC is around 3 mil a year and Daboll will be able to pick his team and will easily be paid 10+ mil a year as a HC. Who’s to say Terry won’t pay him 10 million?? He could set the market for OC’s. Terry’s not cheap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 That sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: You never know, maybe he doesn’t want to be a HC. Some guys are better coordinators than HC’s. And if Terry backs up the brinks truck for him I think he will stay. So he will be making 9 Or 10 mil plus, how much does Pegula pay him? 6 mil for a OC might be go crazy since it is double the going rate and half the HC are not even making that much. 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Who’s to say Terry won’t pay him 10 million?? He could set the market for OC’s. Terry’s not cheap That’s more money than you are paying McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: That sucks Spanos running a tight ship. 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: You never know, maybe he doesn’t want to be a HC. Some guys are better coordinators than HC’s. And if Terry backs up the brinks truck for him I think he will stay. Lol please stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 The real question is who would you rather have as a HC Daboll or McD. I will be waiting for that poll and I bet it would be very close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Doesn’t necessarily mean he will get it, coaches interview all the time but it’s up to the front office who gets picked. There’s a lot more names out there than just Daboll Obviously there’s no guarantee he gets hired. Smart money says he’s going to be one of the top candidates though. The point being is that people question whether he’d want to leave to be a HC when Daboll has already shown interest in doing so. These aren’t 20 minute interviews at Mighty Taco. These things take several hours, sometimes over multiple days. Can’t imagine a coach goes through all the prep work and time actually interviewing if they weren’t seriously considering becoming a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: So he will be making 9 Or 10 mil plus, how much does Pegula pay him? 6 mil for a OC might be go crazy since it is double the going rate and half the HC are not even making that much. That’s more money than you are paying McD. Well I disagree since Gruden is getting 10-15 million plus 25 million in signing bonus a year. I’m sure Terry has been in discussions with Daboll about staying and I think he will offer him a good hunk of money to stay. Daboll is in my opinion the best OC in the NFL but wouldn’t make him a great HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I always liked him. When he was with the Bills I think we were one of the best running teams in the league. That’s a huge accomplishment. I wouldn’t mind seeing him back in WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Harbaugh got an extension at Michigan, but hasn't signed it yet. Scuttlebutt is that he is interested in possibly two jobs in the NFL...Jets and Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is the job that I fear most we lost Daboll to. Bad luck Anthony. You just aren't quite cut out for it. me too i thought this is the best opportunity for him to leave us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: Obviously there’s no guarantee he gets hired. Smart money says he’s going to be one of the top candidates though. The point being is that people question whether he’d want to leave to be a HC when Daboll has already shown interest in doing so. These aren’t 20 minute interviews at Mighty Taco. These things take several hours, sometimes over multiple days. Can’t imagine a coach goes through all the prep work and time actually interviewing if they weren’t seriously considering becoming a HC. While this is true, you do realize Spanos still owns the chargers and is one of the cheapest owners in the NFL. A lot of coaches have had problems working for spanos and his family. He’s the one who gave the green light to fire Schottenheimer after an 11-5 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The real question is who would you rather have as a HC Daboll or McD. I will be waiting for that poll and I bet it would be very close. It would be closer than it should. It shouldn't be close at all Tampa Bay did this very thing a few years back. It was a train wreck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, jkeerie said: Harbaugh got an extension at Michigan, but hasn't signed it yet. Scuttlebutt is that he is interested in possibly two jobs in the NFL...Jets and Chargers. Woof Idk who in they’re right mind would be interested in the Jets job lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Well I disagree since Gruden is getting 10-15 million plus 25 million in signing bonus a year. I’m sure Terry has been in discussions with Daboll about staying and I think he will offer him a good hunk of money to stay. Daboll is in my opinion the best OC in the NFL but wouldn’t make him a great HC. Daboll has proven that he can develop a young QB. His play calling and play design this year was easily best in the NFL. Daboll is what every team is looking for in a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Do we consider the thought of bringing Anthony Lynn back if Brian goes? I would consider it for sure. But i think mcdermott stays in-house and goes with dorsey. Which might be the right move too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 If we go deep into the playoffs daboll won’t have time to talk to a new team until late in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: The grass may not be greener but the money is. Daboll will probably be able to command a 9 or 10 mil a year contract. No way he is turning that down and there are way to many very good HC openings to choose from this year. He is 100% without a doubt gone after this year. Well, I don't know Daboll, and I have no idea what he will do, but I won't be surprised if he stays. Why? 1. He's a Buffalo guy and he gets, completely, what winning a Super Bowl in Buffalo means. He probably wants to be a part of that, maybe wants that more than anything else. 2. This season is the first real success he's had as an OC in the NFL. He had a lot of one and done failures in bad situations. He may want to keep building this, to keep learning, to prepare himself better. 3. As someone said, the Pegulas may give him a lot of money to stay. There's no salary cap for coaches, so they can pay him whatever they want. Remember, he's been making six figures for several years, and probably now making seven figures. He already has millions of dollars saved. He has 19 years in the NFL as a coach, which means, I believe, he needs one more year to qualify for the full coach's pension, which I understand is very nice (mid-six figures). This is a West Seneca kid who probably never dreamed of being set for life by time he reached 45 years old, but that's where he is. If the Pegulas start dropping, say, $5 million a year on him, it's quite conceivable that Daboll decides, like a lot of other guys have decided, that they don't need to be a HC to be satisfied. Remember, he coached with Josh McDaniels, and he saw McDaniels leave an OC job to be a head coach, then come back to his OC job. I'm not convinced Daboll is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, BillsSbSoon said: I would consider it for sure. But i think mcdermott stays in-house and goes with dorsey. Which might be the right move too I would certainly bring him back as a RB coach, our running game was more consistent when he was here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Woof Idk who in they’re right mind would be interested in the Jets job lol I agree. It's likely the size of the market that might attract him. Since he coached at Stanford and SF, I would think the west coast would be most attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: While this is true, you do realize Spanos still owns the chargers and is one of the cheapest owners in the NFL. A lot of coaches have had problems working for spanos and his family. He’s the one who gave the green light to fire Schottenheimer after an 11-5 season It's even worse than that... Marty was fired after going 14-2, because a DB fumbled after catching the game winning INT against Brady in the playoffs so it proved "Marty cannot win in the playoffs." Ironic point: on the Football Life about Marty they showed the video of Marty telling that same player before that game that when he catches the game winning INT just go down, don't go running around and fumble. It's crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Harbaugh got an extension at Michigan, but hasn't signed it yet. Scuttlebutt is that he is interested in possibly two jobs in the NFL...Jets and Chargers. He’s trying really hard to get an nfl job right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Has anyone thought that maybe Daboll doesn’t want to be a Head Coach yet? Maybe he wants to win here too. He was snubbed by Belichik, went and got better, and is on the cusp of something awesome. I just don’t get the feeling from him that he wants to run the show yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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