NoSaint Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: I’m sure he got a negative grade on the Davis laser because he had a wide open TE on the play. Only if they decided he should have been the read. And even then he’d likely get a positive score but possibly diminished a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Only if they decided he should have been the read. And even then he’d likely get a positive score but possibly diminished a bit Against Miami they ranked him 12th best for that week. No need to defend them. They are trash. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Im telling you.....at this point is is just "my rep is on the line so I pray to god Allen has a bad game soon so I dont look like such a dumbass" PFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: is it insane to think tannehill may have made many similarly good throws regardless? I didn’t watch the game and 400 yards can be wildly slinging erratically or great discipline. I didn’t see if he was hitting his reads well to dispute his grade. If someone brings breakdown of one of the others playing badly, so be it. As is they all looked good on paper and the pff folks said they all passed the eye test. No need to be insulted by being among the very best scores in the week And pff doesn’t grade on just yards, I was just pointing out he was highly productive for instance, he probably got a very good grade on the Davis laser but might have come up short of the 2.0 score if they decided he missed the open Lee smith and shouldn’t have. I don’t think any of us analyzed these guys on that level. he’s in an elite group for the week. The read was not to Lee Smiths side .. if there. Was nothing open on the other side he would have looked .. but a quarterback looks at his first read and if open he hits it. You don’t want the QB scanning the full field on every play unless needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Against Miami they ranked him 12th best for that week. No need to defend them. They are trash. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Let’s be real PFF doesn’t like Josh Allen and they don’t like Josh Allen because he screws up their metrics that they used to evaluate quarterbacks Josh Allen is an anomaly which their system cannot account for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I mean they do have him 7th ranked among QBs for the season with an elite grade. They can't hate him that much. I think personally he is top 4 for the season but it is not like they have him 15th or something. The best 5 Quarterbacks this season in the NFL are very clear to me. It is Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson, Allen, Watson. There is a drop off after that. I don't even know who I would have 6th..... maybe Tannehill, maybe Ben... but the top 5 is pretty clear to me. Whether you wanna go eye test or look across the board at traditional numbers... touchdowns, completion percentage, yards, yard per attempt, passer rating... or advanced stats like intended air yards, air yard per completion, performance against pressure.... that top 5 are all top 10 in everything. There are other guys who are good when you look at one metric... Teddy Bridgewater completes 70% of his throws... but he is 28th in intended air yards... which means he is throwing it about as far as you are required to stand apart under covid regulations. It just isn't that hard to me. There is a 5 man elite group of Quarterbacks that has broken away from the pack in this league. And Josh Allen is in it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) You people who hate analytics need to get over it. Just because you do not like the output doesn't make the output less accurate. As an example, I personally spend a considerable amount of time on an algorithm that ranks organizations that perform quarterback rankings. PFF scores relatively well at number 11 in my weekly rankings. Their score was reduced a bit by a few bad puns on their latest podcast and Steve Palazzolo's face in general. In my time performing these ratings if there is one thing that we have learned you can't overcome it is the tendency to tell bad puns and a close second is a person's face .. it is what it is and you can't change it. They did drop one spot this week from 10 as Chuck from "Ralph's Pizza Emporium" knocked it out of the park with his deep dive into the impact of Cam Newton's hair style on his rushing ability, scientifically showing that Cam is a little off balance toward the direction the hair spike lays. Numbers do not lie. Edited December 10, 2020 by CorkScrewHill 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Im telling you.....at this point is is just "my rep is on the line so I pray to god Allen has a bad game soon so I dont look like such a dumbass" PFF This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Let’s be real PFF doesn’t like Josh Allen and they don’t like Josh Allen because he screws up their metrics that they used to evaluate quarterbacks Josh Allen is an anomaly which their system cannot account for And they've admitted it earlier this year. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/30/pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-josh-allen-anomaly/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 PFF can eat my **** and die 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 You lost me at PFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 And Stafford's QBR was 85.5% (Rtg 109.4).... He came back & won. Good for him. Tannehill 82.3% (104.8) Allen can't compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: And Stafford's QBR was 85.5% (Rtg 109.4).... He came back & won. Good for him. Tannehill 82.3% (104.8) Allen can't compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Let’s be real PFF doesn’t like Josh Allen and they don’t like Josh Allen because he screws up their metrics that they used to evaluate quarterbacks Josh Allen is an anomaly which their system cannot account for josh used to do bad things frequently, now he does fewer of those and more good things, which we all agree, and scores much better. 6th is akin to a pro bowl qb before any opt outs even. 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: And they've admitted it earlier this year. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/30/pro-football-focus-buffalo-bills-josh-allen-anomaly/ he is a huge anomaly- so was someone like Brady. No one was worried he broke there system of not relying on day 3 qbs, and folks will still worry about accuracy of college qbs in the draft. He doesn’t break the “rule,” but does appear to be an exception in his ability to grow certain skill sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: How long were you waiting to post that troll???? I read 4 pages and most laughing about the absurdity of PFF and so I checked (and posted) QBR's for two above him, which were not in any earlier post, but I want attention? Hello mirror.... Edited December 10, 2020 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 15 hours ago, Warcodered said: So wait Mayfield is ahead of Allen despite both fumbling and throwing an INT? Yeah, but Mayfield is much better at self promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I really think all the “hate”(maybe a little strong) towards the bills from media is because they know we will pay attention and generate revenue. Just ignore them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Wait we are still doing that thing where we get mad and insecure because Josh had a big game and PFF didn't put him as the best QB for the week? yes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 16 hours ago, custcarcen said: PFF QB rankings on NFL.com for games played week 13: Rodgers Stafford Mahomes Tannehill Mayfield Josh Allen it’s a breakthrough for them to rank him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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