So tired of reading the same nonsense about how the Bills "found a way to win". They didn't...they won the game handily.

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Muppy -

 

I've kind of been rooting for Lynn, because of *****-storm he went through in Buffalo when the Bills asked him to step in for Rex at the end of the season.  I've wanted him to have some success.  

 

As I said in my write, I think the Chargers are one of the better 3-7 teams you'll see in the NFL.  Now that he has a QB, I kind of hope Lynn survives.  

 

Still, I have a general dislike for owners who abandon their fan-base, so I don't mind having piled onto the Chargers' crappola of a season. 

 

The man has a very talented team and has only managed to win 1 more game than the Jets dumpster fire under Adam Gase has since the beginning of last year. That is almost inexcusable.

 

It is great to want a coach to succeed because you like him but Lynn is not HC material. He made more poor game mismanagment decisions yesterday than some coaches do in an entire season. It was brutal to watch and I am so thankful we didn't hire him as out coach.

Edited November 30, 2020 by matter2003

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Muppy -

 

I've kind of been rooting for Lynn, because of *****-storm he went through in Buffalo when the Bills asked him to step in for Rex at the end of the season.  I've wanted him to have some success.  

 

As I said in my write, I think the Chargers are one of the better 3-7 teams you'll see in the NFL.  Now that he has a QB, I kind of hope Lynn survives.  

 

Still, I have a general dislike for owners who abandon their fan-base, so I don't mind having piled onto the Chargers' crappola of a season. 

 

Lynn is getting a ton of flak for the final play sequence.  But a lot of that is coming from the barstool gambling community - less so football people.  

 

Football people understand that - after a big play with time winding down, the coach is NOT telling the qb what to do.  They should have spiked it - but i don't know that lynn is like, get to the line and call a draw. 

 

As for the sneak?  That was done after the radio is off anyway, so it was definitely a check (which as soon as he checked to it, made no sense because klein went right into the gap.

 

They have lost an absurd number of close games, but he was handicapped with rivers turnovers last year, and has a rookie QB and injuries this year.  It's unfair, but he'll probably get canned.

[wjag]

3 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

The big thing that bothered me was that people claim they "blew the lead".  How?  They were winning the entire game, then they won.  LA made it a 1 score game, buffalo turned around and made it a 2 score game, and that was the final.  They even got hosed by the refs multiple times while making it a 2 score game.

 

And they beat the spread turning back a lot of late Vegas money on the Chargers.

[Don Otreply]

Well, we old farts here grew up in a world that required us to deal with adversity, so we did, and because of that we don’t get all drama queen at the drop of a hat when things don’t go well.
 

As the generations have gone on, dealing well with adversity, is a skill set that is slowly going away, it’s all part of why Oscar Meyer can’t do the “ fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb in rocks” commercials any more, someone may get offended because they are fat. So you get people freaking out over the team they say they root for when they win a game that they were leading the entire game. Its just beyond pathetic. Bunch of pansies.

 

Go Bills!!!

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Lynn is getting a ton of flak for the final play sequence.  But a lot of that is coming from the barstool gambling community - less so football people.  

 

Football people understand that - after a big play with time winding down, the coach is NOT telling the qb what to do.  They should have spiked it - but i don't know that lynn is like, get to the line and call a draw. 

 

As for the sneak?  That was done after the radio is off anyway, so it was definitely a check (which as soon as he checked to it, made no sense because klein went right into the gap.

 

They have lost an absurd number of close games, but he was handicapped with rivers turnovers last year, and has a rookie QB and injuries this year.  It's unfair, but he'll probably get canned.

 

How is it unfair? Rivers is playing pretty well this year. Herbert is the Rookie of the Year running away and has 3100 yards in 10 games, making him and Mahomes the only 2 players in NFL history to do that...

 

They have multiple probowlers on that team. Maybe an All Pro in Bosa.

 

Lynn does less with more. There is absolutely NO excuse for only having 1 more win than the Jets dumpster fire under Gase since the start of last year.

 

The reason they lose these close one score games is because of exactly what happened yesterday with the game management aspect. That matters, especially in close games.

 

They had the same issues last year losing a bunch of close games. When does he get held responsible for not being a very good head coach?

 

Is he going to be allowed to keep getting Doug Marrone like passes? The man went 5-11, 6-10 and now is 1-10...when does poor coaching cost a person their job? 

Edited November 30, 2020 by matter2003

[Shaw66]

17 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Lynn is getting a ton of flak for the final play sequence.  But a lot of that is coming from the barstool gambling community - less so football people.  

 

Football people understand that - after a big play with time winding down, the coach is NOT telling the qb what to do.  They should have spiked it - but i don't know that lynn is like, get to the line and call a draw. 

 

As for the sneak?  That was done after the radio is off anyway, so it was definitely a check (which as soon as he checked to it, made no sense because klein went right into the gap.

 

They have lost an absurd number of close games, but he was handicapped with rivers turnovers last year, and has a rookie QB and injuries this year.  It's unfair, but he'll probably get canned.

Well, I thought Lynn could have managed the clock better than he did.  There was only one way to win the game at that point, and that was to put points on the board and try an onside kick.  In retrospect, at some point in that last drive he should have spiked the ball and kicked the field goal.  That kind of creative clock management is something a coach needs to master.  As I've said elsewhere, not taking the field goal in the third quarter was a huge mistake.   

 

Still, I agree, he's likely to get fired, and it's unfortunate.   I think he's a talented guy, and the team is just coming together.   Unless you've been a total disaster, I think HCs are entitled to a little more sympathy in this COVID season.  The HC's job every season is to figure out how to win games, but if they can't figure out how to win during COVID, I wouldn't hold it against them.  

 

Finally, I think the sneak was a called play.  I think the shift from shotgun to under center followed by a quick snap was designed to cause a moment of indecision that would make it easier for the interior oline to push the Bills off the goal line.   The Bills are just unusually tough in that situation.  

[Big C]

10 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

How is it unfair? Rivers is playing pretty well this year. Herbert is the Rookie of the Year running away and has 3100 yards in 10 games, making him and Mahomes the only 2 players in NFL history to do that...

 

They have multiple probowlers on that team. Maybe an All Pro in Bosa.

 

Lynn does less with more. There is absolutely NO excuse for only having 1 more win than the Jets dumpster fire under Gase since the start of last year.

 

The reason they lose these close one score games is because of exactly what happened yesterday with the game management aspect. That matters, especially in close games.

 

They had the same issues last year losing a bunch of close games. When does he get held responsible for not being a very good head coach?

 

Is he going to be allowed to keep getting Doug Marrone like passes? The man went 5-11, 6-10 and now is 1-10...when does poor coaching cost a person their job? 

I tend to agree with this. The Chargers, much like the Falcons. We’re finding new ways to lose games every week. And it almost always came down to coaching. Lynn is horrific with clock management and you can say that he wasn’t making calls in the headset on the two minute drill or whatever but the coach is responsible for making sure his team knows what to do in all game situations. Not to mention his plan was to play Tyrod all season.

 

Side note I hate reading that Josh wasn’t able to do much in the game. That bomb to Diggs was gonna be a huge highlight reel play and it sucks that the PI took that from he and Diggs.

[Coach Tuesday]

I think there is a rational view of the world that would like to see the Bills start stringing together four solid quarters of football so that they have a shot at going far in the playoffs.  Turning the ball over three times, committing multiple personal fouls and giving up a Hail Mary all in the second half of a conference game does not set the right tone for playoff football.  Glad they won.  Felt awfully close for a blowout.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Dear OP..  I have the cure for you.  Go back in time and read about how they found a way to lose for two decades. 

[BillsVet]

24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I think there is a rational view of the world that would like to see the Bills start stringing together four solid quarters of football so that they have a shot at going far in the playoffs.  Turning the ball over three times, committing multiple personal fouls and giving up a Hail Mary all in the second half of a conference game does not set the right tone for playoff football.  Glad they won.  Felt awfully close for a blowout.

 

Definitely @Coach Tuesday

 

After the TEN and KC losses, Buffalo has really looked strong in only 1 game - the Seattle win at home.  There were some defensive miscues, but the offense rescued them by keeping a healthy lead for most of the game.

 

They're 3-1 since the KC game, but I'm not confident they can defeat a Chiefs or Steelers in the playoffs.  This team is certainly better than the 2019 Bills, but the goal is to reach and win at least 1 playoff game.  Especially given that NE isn't coming back and Buffalo made the roster investments and have a much improved Allen.

Edited November 30, 2020 by BillsVet

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

34 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Well, I thought Lynn could have managed the clock better than he did.  There was only one way to win the game at that point, and that was to put points on the board and try an onside kick.  In retrospect, at some point in that last drive he should have spiked the ball and kicked the field goal.  That kind of creative clock management is something a coach needs to master.  As I've said elsewhere, not taking the field goal in the third quarter was a huge mistake.   

 

Still, I agree, he's likely to get fired, and it's unfortunate.   I think he's a talented guy, and the team is just coming together.   Unless you've been a total disaster, I think HCs are entitled to a little more sympathy in this COVID season.  The HC's job every season is to figure out how to win games, but if they can't figure out how to win during COVID, I wouldn't hold it against them.  

 

Finally, I think the sneak was a called play.  I think the shift from shotgun to under center followed by a quick snap was designed to cause a moment of indecision that would make it easier for the interior oline to push the Bills off the goal line.   The Bills are just unusually tough in that situation.  

 

I think the call of a sneaks fine- but how does the oline not know it's possibly a call (they pass blocked).  Also the only player who knew a sneak was coming was klein.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

59 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Lynn is getting a ton of flak for the final play sequence.  But a lot of that is coming from the barstool gambling community - less so football people.  

 

Football people understand that - after a big play with time winding down, the coach is NOT telling the qb what to do.  They should have spiked it - but i don't know that lynn is like, get to the line and call a draw. 

 

As for the sneak?  That was done after the radio is off anyway, so it was definitely a check (which as soon as he checked to it, made no sense because klein went right into the gap.

 

They have lost an absurd number of close games, but he was handicapped with rivers turnovers last year, and has a rookie QB and injuries this year.  It's unfair, but he'll probably get canned.

 

You practice those situations. There is no way you can take that sequence off the end off of Lynn. Or the sequence at the end of the first half. Or the sequence when he went for it on 4th down thinking it was 1st down. 

 

It was a horrific coaching display. Until yesterday I was pro the Chargers sticking with Lynn for Herbert continuity sake. But I am off the bus after yesterday. He deserves to be fired.

[Shaw66]

Just now, dneveu said:

 

I think the call of a sneaks fine- but how does the oline not know it's possibly a call (they pass blocked).  Also the only player who knew a sneak was coming was klein.

 

 

Ooh, I hadn't noticed that.  If the oline pass blocked, it means it was an audible. 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 Or the sequence when he went for it on 4th down thinking it was 1st down. 

 

 

THAT's what Lynn was arguing with the officials about?   He thought they'd gotten the first down?   Did anyone signal a first down or ask that the sticks be moved?   Why would have thought they got the first down?  

[bmur66]

Well, when you put it like that..... 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

 

THAT's what Lynn was arguing with the officials about?   He thought they'd gotten the first down?   Did anyone signal a first down or ask that the sticks be moved?   Why would have thought they got the first down?  

 

Yea he thought they had the first. So did I to be honest but they were not given it and frankly for a coach not to check that thing is inexcusable. 

[Kwai San]

1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

I honestly think the reason is like that has to with the fact there is sets of fans on this board. On one side you have the fans that have been Bills fans since the AFL days. On the other side you have the fans that just recently started following the team. 

 

The older fan base has seen it all and just want to win. They don't care what it looks like. 

 

The newer fan base sees teams around the league blow out teams and can't understand why the Bills seem to not so it often. 

 

I will say the one thing I will happy to never hear again is how its hard to win in this league. 

 

As an older fan - not AFL years - I agree with your premise.  A win is a win.  No style points are ever awarded.......Just win baby!!

 

Go BILLS!

[ksm27]

43 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Well, I thought Lynn could have managed the clock better than he did.  There was only one way to win the game at that point, and that was to put points on the board and try an onside kick.  In retrospect, at some point in that last drive he should have spiked the ball and kicked the field goal.  That kind of creative clock management is something a coach needs to master.  As I've said elsewhere, not taking the field goal in the third quarter was a huge mistake.   

 

Still, I agree, he's likely to get fired, and it's unfortunate.   I think he's a talented guy, and the team is just coming together.   Unless you've been a total disaster, I think HCs are entitled to a little more sympathy in this COVID season.  The HC's job every season is to figure out how to win games, but if they can't figure out how to win during COVID, I wouldn't hold it against them.  

 

Finally, I think the sneak was a called play.  I think the shift from shotgun to under center followed by a quick snap was designed to cause a moment of indecision that would make it easier for the interior oline to push the Bills off the goal line.   The Bills are just unusually tough in that situation.  

👆👆👆  Exactly - I always gauge these situations by how nervous I feel in the moment.  If Lynn took the quick FG and they were set up for an onside kick, I would have been nervous as hell.   Then they're ONE play away from what happened in Arizona.  But the way Lynn handled it, I was never nervous.

[Shaw66]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea he thought they had the first. So did I to be honest but they were not given it and frankly for a coach not to check that thing is inexcusable. 

When it happened I thought it was close, but then I realized they stopped him.  No one signaled first down, right?   So what you say is correct - how could Lynn not be verifying with someone that they got the first down.   I mean, he knows that from a sideline vantage point it's pretty tough to see exactly what happened, so he should be asking all the time.   

 

In some ways, thinking he got the first down without being sure is worse than knowing it was fourth down and deciding to go for it.   Going for it is just a bad decision; not knowing the game situation is fundamentally unsound. 

[Big Turk]

42 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I think there is a rational view of the world that would like to see the Bills start stringing together four solid quarters of football so that they have a shot at going far in the playoffs.  Turning the ball over three times, committing multiple personal fouls and giving up a Hail Mary all in the second half of a conference game does not set the right tone for playoff football.  Glad they won.  Felt awfully close for a blowout.

 

I am sure KC fans are saying the same thing after allowing TB to get to within 3 points after leading 17-0 and 27-10.

 

Point is, very few teams are going to play a great 4 quarter game these days in all 3 phases. Other teams are still good and get paid to play just like we do and the rules are slanted to make comebacks more likely.

[MJS]

2 hours ago, A Firm Tree Does Not Fear said:

I thought PPP was bad but the main board is/has become intolerable and it's the same few that post the same ***** every week.

 

...and get this, after a ***** win!!

 

So true. We go out and keep winning and have to deal with this bull crap every week. They excuse away wins like they are meaningless.

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

2 hours ago, matter2003 said:

This gets thrown around way too much on this board. "Finding a way to win".

 

This denotes the team overall played poorly, was outplayed by the other team, was losing for much of the game, but made a key play or got some luck somehow at the end and pulled it out.

 

That wasn't what happened yesterday. Not even close. 

 

1) The Bills never trailed and led for 57 minutes of the game.

2) Up 24-6, the 18 point deficit was the largest the Chargers have faced all year.

3) The Bills snapped the longest streak in the NFL of 12 consecutive 1 score games the Chargers have played.

 

Now...if you want to say they didn't play their best, then yes I would agree. But they sure didn't play poorly. They made Herbert look very average to below average much of the game. They took away Allen and Williams from the passing game most of the day. They ran the ball exceptionally well. They stopped the run very well except for 1 long run. Special teams played well.

 

They had a series of 7 plays that they probably want back that resulted in 3 turnovers. It happens. The Bills are not especially turnover prone usually.

 

Can they play better? Yeah.

Do the Bills "let other teams back into games" more than most good teams? No not really. Look around the NFL...teams that are up big ens up holding on for dear life at the end of games more often than not.

Is it realistic to think they will play their best every game? No. No team in the NFL does. If you think they do, you simply don't watch much football other than the Bills games apparently.

 

Does this mean they "found a way to win"? No. They kind of dominated the game and cruised to victory even though they hit a few potholes on the way. The game was never really in doubt at any point.

 

Some people really need to get some perspective with their over the top dramatics.

Your right, if the Bill's would have stopped the chargers on the goal line in the third quarter the game would have been a blow out.  But look at the double standard miami beats the chargers by almost the exact same score and it's a blow out.  And our headline is Bill's hang on.

[Big Turk]

18 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Ooh, I hadn't noticed that.  If the oline pass blocked, it means it was an audible. 

THAT's what Lynn was arguing with the officials about?   He thought they'd gotten the first down?   Did anyone signal a first down or ask that the sticks be moved?   Why would have thought they got the first down?  

 

I watched Herbert's PC after the game and he said it was an audible from him on the sneak and it was a miscommunication.

[Penfield45]

We had 3 back to back turnovers in the 4th quarter. a better team kills us and wins the game there. 

 

we did not win the game handedly lol. The game came down to a FG late in the 4th which we were lucky Bass was able to hit. We can't keep letting teams hang around until late in the game. same thing happened last season in the playoffs and we got punished for it. 

[MJS]

45 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I think there is a rational view of the world that would like to see the Bills start stringing together four solid quarters of football so that they have a shot at going far in the playoffs.  Turning the ball over three times, committing multiple personal fouls and giving up a Hail Mary all in the second half of a conference game does not set the right tone for playoff football.  Glad they won.  Felt awfully close for a blowout.

No, actually it is an irrational view. Maybe try watching other games. It's pretty rare to see teams go out and stomp an opponent for 4 quarters. The Chiefs make mistakes. They let teams back in. They fumble it sometimes. They played from behind in every game in the playoffs last year and eventually won the Superbowl. What you want is unrealistic.

 

Absolutely, the Bills should not be turning the ball over like that (and they usually don't), but it is pretty uncommon to go an entire game without turning it over. And it's uncommon to blow teams out.

 

This is a good Bills team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the NFL yet, and that's fine. They are still growing and progressing. Allen is still progressing. It is irrational to believe that the Bills should be blowing out teams and never making mistakes.

2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

We had 3 back to back turnovers in the 4th quarter. a better team kills us and wins the game there. 

 

we did not win the game handedly lol. The game came down to a FG late in the 4th which we were lucky Bass was able to hit. We can't keep letting teams hang around until late in the game. same thing happened last season in the playoffs and we got punished for it. 

This is just getting ridiculous. It absolutely did NOT come down to a field goal. That field goal put the team up by 10.

 

Better teams have lost to the Bills already this season. You are insufferable.

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

We had 3 back to back turnovers in the 4th quarter. a better team kills us and wins the game there. 

 

we did not win the game handedly lol. The game came down to a FG late in the 4th which we were lucky Bass was able to hit. We can't keep letting teams hang around until late in the game. same thing happened last season in the playoffs and we got punished for it. 

 

I guess 85% of the teams that win these days can't keep doing this then...maybe the Chief fans should be freaking out because they almost blew a 17 point lead against TB yesterday twice at 17-0 and 27-10 amd had to burn 4+ minutes off the clock at the end of the game to hold on.

 

But I am sure the talking heads will all be too enamored with the fact Hill had 270 yards 3 TDs and Mahomes made some great plays instead of how they didn't finish the game properly.  

 

Apparently only the Bills win games like yesterday...all other teams get big leads and then cruise to victory with their backups in for the entire 4th quarter...

Edited November 30, 2020 by matter2003

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea he thought they had the first. So did I to be honest but they were not given it and frankly for a coach not to check that thing is inexcusable. 

 

I just looked - they went for it on 4th 5 times in that one.  Felt like a lot. 

[ngbills]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

I guess 85% of the teams that win these days can't keep doing this then...maybe the Chief fans should be freaking out because they almost blew a 17 point lead against TB yesterday twice at 17-0 and 27-10 amd had to burn 4+ minutes off the clock at the end of the game to hold on.

 

But I am sure the talking heads will all be too enamored with the fact Hill had 270 yards 3 TDs and Mahomes made some great plays instead of how they didn't finish the game properly.  

 

Apparently only the Bills win games like yesterday...all other teams get big leads and then cruise to victory with their backups in for the entire 4th quarter...

Yes many games are close. But it is also a fact that the Bills have struggled more than other teams in the 2nd half. Most points allowed or close to it. 

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Yes many games are close. But it is also a fact that the Bills have struggled more than other teams in the 2nd half. Most points allowed or close to it. 

 

They also average the most points scored on offense in the 4th quarter in the NFL. Or at least did going into yesterday's game.

Edited November 30, 2020 by matter2003

[Jrb1979]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

I guess 85% of the teams that win these days can't keep doing this then...maybe the Chief fans should be freaking out because they almost blew a 17 point lead against TB yesterday twice at 17-0 and 27-10 amd had to burn 4+ minutes off the clock at the end of the game to hold on.

 

But I am sure the talking heads will all be too enamored with the fact Hill had 270 yards 3 TDs and Mahomes made some great plays instead of how they didn't finish the game properly.  

 

Apparently only the Bills win games like yesterday...all other teams get big leads and then cruise to victory with their backups in for the entire 4th quarter...

Part of the why teams to blow out others is not all to do with not playing 4 qtrs. A lot has to do with how games are reffed. I am sick and tired of the game management ref system. This isn't grade school where you have keep everyone happy by giving them a ribbon. 

[papazoid]

even at minus 2 on turnovers.....bills were in control

[Penfield45]

18 minutes ago, MJS said:

No, actually it is an irrational view. Maybe try watching other games. It's pretty rare to see teams go out and stomp an opponent for 4 quarters. The Chiefs make mistakes. They let teams back in. They fumble it sometimes. They played from behind in every game in the playoffs last year and eventually won the Superbowl. What you want is unrealistic.

 

Absolutely, the Bills should not be turning the ball over like that (and they usually don't), but it is pretty uncommon to go an entire game without turning it over. And it's uncommon to blow teams out.

 

This is a good Bills team. Maybe they aren't the best team in the NFL yet, and that's fine. They are still growing and progressing. Allen is still progressing. It is irrational to believe that the Bills should be blowing out teams and never making mistakes.

This is just getting ridiculous. It absolutely did NOT come down to a field goal. That field goal put the team up by 10.

 

Better teams have lost to the Bills already this season. You are insufferable.

 

 

first of all..calm down

 

calling other fans "insufferable" because you don't agree with their opinion makes you look like a total clown. 

 

second of all, the game DID come down to that FG because had we not made that the Chargers have a clear chance to drive down the field and score a TD (Which they almost did if you saw the end of the game) 

 

the FG clinched the win for us, Bass was one of our MVP's yesterday. 

[MJS]

Just now, Penfield45 said:

 

 

first of all..calm down

 

calling other fans "insufferable" because you don't agree with their opinion makes you look like a total clown. 

 

second of all, the game DID come down to that FG because had we not made that the Chargers have a clear chance to drive down the field and score a TD (Which they almost did if you saw the end of the game) 

 

the FG clinched the win for us, Bass was one of our MVP's yesterday. 

So you take away the field goal, AND take away the defensive stop at the end, AND you still have to manufacture one more score for the Bills to lose.

 

Yeah, totally. Make those THREE changes and the Bills lose.

[ngbills]

Halftime - Bills up 17-6

Bills get ball to start half and score so up 24-6.

LAC score on their first drive and convert 2 pt conversion - 24-14

Bills punt on next possession.

LAC gets ball at 20 and drive down to Bills 25. They go for it on 4th rather than kick field goal. Would have made it a 7 point game.

Bills fumble on next possession.

LAC drive down to Bills 7. Have to settle for field goal. Game is now 24-17.

Bills fumble next possession.

Bills D forces punt

Bills intercepted

LAC intercepted

Bills kick FG to push lead to 10

LAC gets ball and drives from own 12 to Bills 1 with 1min left. They have no clue and waste the clock. Game over.

 

This was a one score game much of the second half. It required the Bills D to make some stops and get an Int. Some dumb play by the LAC help as well. This was not a blow out. The 24-6 lead lasted one drive and was back to a 10 point game and could have easily turned into a blown lead. 

[Einstein's Dog]

14 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

Part of the why teams to blow out others is not all to do with not playing 4 qtrs. A lot has to do with how games are reffed. I am sick and tired of the game management ref system. This isn't grade school where you have keep everyone happy by giving them a ribbon. 

One example of that was on the offensive pass interference play.  At one point the announcer said he thought it hit the ground, and then followed it up with "it doesn't matter".  What?  The refs didn't review it.  It was less than 2 minutes to go.  IMO, they should have taken a look.  Shades of "let him have it" with the Pats* years ago.

[JohnNord]

3 hours ago, matter2003 said:

This gets thrown around way too much on this board. "Finding a way to win".

 

This denotes the team overall played poorly, was outplayed by the other team, was losing for much of the game, but made a key play or got some luck somehow at the end and pulled it out.

 

That wasn't what happened yesterday. Not even close. 

 

1) The Bills never trailed and led for 57 minutes of the game.

2) Up 24-6, the 18 point deficit was the largest the Chargers have faced all year.

3) The Bills snapped the longest streak in the NFL of 12 consecutive 1 score games the Chargers have played.

 

Now...if you want to say they didn't play their best, then yes I would agree. But they sure didn't play poorly. They made Herbert look very average to below average much of the game. They took away Allen and Williams from the passing game most of the day. They ran the ball exceptionally well. They stopped the run very well except for 1 long run. Special teams played well.

 

They had a series of 7 plays that they probably want back that resulted in 3 turnovers. It happens. The Bills are not especially turnover prone usually.

 

Can they play better? Yeah.

Do the Bills "let other teams back into games" more than most good teams? No not really. Look around the NFL...teams that are up big ens up holding on for dear life at the end of games more often than not.

Is it realistic to think they will play their best every game? No. No team in the NFL does. If you think they do, you simply don't watch much football other than the Bills games apparently.

 

Does this mean they "found a way to win"? No. They kind of dominated the game and cruised to victory even though they hit a few potholes on the way. The game was never really in doubt at any point.

 

Some people really need to get some perspective with their over the top dramatics.

Also the 10 point deficit was the largest margin of defeat suffered by San Diego this season.

 

I do agree that the game should’ve been won handily but I think what makes some fans uneasy is the fact that they could have put the game away much earlier.  As you pointed out, the 3 turnovers kept LAC in the game.  We’d like to see a more convincing win

[Big Turk]

Just now, JohnNord said:

Also the 10 point deficit was the largest margin of defeat suffered by San Diego this season.

 

I do agree that the game should’ve been won handily but I think what makes some fans uneasy is the fact that they could have put the game away much earlier.  As you pointed out, the 3 turnovers kept LAC in the game.  We’d like to see a more convincing win

 

What do you think KC fans are thinking after yesterday's game?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, matter2003 said:

 

What do you think KC fans are thinking after yesterday's game?

 

543 yards - the same 27 points buffalo scored.  

[Big Turk]

9 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Halftime - Bills up 17-6

Bills get ball to start half and score so up 24-6.

LAC score on their first drive and convert 2 pt conversion - 24-14

Bills punt on next possession.

LAC gets ball at 20 and drive down to Bills 25. They go for it on 4th rather than kick field goal. Would have made it a 7 point game.

Bills fumble on next possession.

LAC drive down to Bills 7. Have to settle for field goal. Game is now 24-17.

Bills fumble next possession.

Bills D forces punt

Bills intercepted

LAC intercepted

Bills kick FG to push lead to 10

LAC gets ball and drives from own 12 to Bills 1 with 1min left. They have no clue and waste the clock. Game over.

 

This was a one score game much of the second half. It required the Bills D to make some stops and get an Int. Some dumb play by the LAC help as well. This was not a blow out. The 24-6 lead lasted one drive and was back to a 10 point game and could have easily turned into a blown lead. 

 

Why do you assume their kicker would have made a 43 yard FG when he already missed an XP and has struggled all year both on FGs and XPs? 

 

Maybe that decision had more to do with his confidence in the kicker than anything else. 

 

 

[ngbills]

KC is also Super Bowl champ and not still in prove yourself mode. They have the mindset of winning it all. In addition they beat won 5 games by 2 TD's or more. The Bills have won 0 by that margin. 

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

 

Why do you assume their kicker would have made a 43 yard FG when he already missed an XP and has struggled all year both on FGs and XPs? 

 

Maybe that decision had more to do with his confidence in the kicker than anything else. 

 

 

Doesn't matter. It all just shows it was a close game. The fact a FG being made or missed shows that. The Bills hung on by a thread. The starting D was on the field until the final whistle. Would be nice to let some guys get some time off late in the game once in while...

[Big Turk]

14 minutes ago, ngbills said:

KC is also Super Bowl champ and not still in prove yourself mode. They have the mindset of winning it all. In addition they beat won 5 games by 2 TD's or more. The Bills have won 0 by that margin. 

Doesn't matter. It all just shows it was a close game. The fact a FG being made or missed shows that. The Bills hung on by a thread. The starting D was on the field until the final whistle. Would be nice to let some guys get some time off late in the game once in while...

 

So did a lot of other teams yesterday as they do every week. Let's stop pretending most teams win in blowouts. If this was the case the Steelers would be treated like they are 5-5 with the number of nail biters they have played this year. 

 

The Bills never trailed and the game was never really in doubt.

Edited November 30, 2020 by matter2003