slipkid Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 This is kind of a “bye-week-thought/fodder.” I apologize if this has been brought up (I haven’t seen it), and it really doesn’t mean much when playoff seedings shake out, but the AFC North is a combined 8-1-1 against the NFC East with the loss and tie belonging ti the Bengals. Is it fair to suggest that the records of the Steelers, Browns, and Ravens have a lot to do with their putrid NFC schedule? Or is the opposite the case—the NFC East looks bad because they have played excellent teams in the AFC North? Obviously, both are probably true, but I think it’s much more the former than the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, slipkid said: This is kind of a “bye-week-thought/fodder.” I apologize if this has been brought up (I haven’t seen it), and it really doesn’t mean much when playoff seedings shake out, but the AFC North is a combined 8-1-1 against the NFC East with the loss and tie belonging ti the Bengals. Is it fair to suggest that the records of the Steelers, Browns, and Ravens have a lot to do with their putrid NFC schedule? Or is the opposite the case—the NFC East looks bad because they have played excellent teams in the AFC North? Obviously, both are probably true, but I think it’s much more the former than the latter. It’s definitely more the former! I mean, Cleveland at seven and three? They are not that good! Edited November 22, 2020 by BillsFan619 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I'm just gonna go back to bed. Wake me up next Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, slipkid said: This is kind of a “bye-week-thought/fodder.” I apologize if this has been brought up (I haven’t seen it), and it really doesn’t mean much when playoff seedings shake out, but the AFC North is a combined 8-1-1 against the NFC East with the loss and tie belonging ti the Bengals. Is it fair to suggest that the records of the Steelers, Browns, and Ravens have a lot to do with their putrid NFC schedule? Or is the opposite the case—the NFC East looks bad because they have played excellent teams in the AFC North? Obviously, both are probably true, but I think it’s much more the former than the latter. The cherry on top is that the AFC North is also playing the AFC South, likely the second weakest division of the 8 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 The disparities between divisions is an issue right now.... the NFCE is so bad that they are playing a massive role in the AFC Playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipkid Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: The cherry on top is that the AFC North is also playing the AFC South, likely the second weakest division of the 8 Yep. But then again, the NFC East’s in-conference schedule is the NFC West, maybe the best division top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: It’s definitely more the former! I mean, Cleveland at seven and three? They are not that good! Cleveland is winning with the Run game and a stellar defense. QB is being asked to be just a game manager. They are a good football team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, ganesh said: Cleveland is winning with the Run game and a stellar defense. QB is being asked to be just a game manager. They are a good football team Stellar defense? They’ve beaten Philadelphia and Houston with some solid defense and 70MPH wind gusts lol. It’s not like the Eagles and Texans are world beaters. Browns were outscored like 77-13 in their games against Pittsburgh and Baltimore. If they were the Bills you wouldn’t be saying what you’re saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Stellar defense? They’ve beaten Philadelphia and Houston with some solid defense and 70MPH wind gusts lol. It’s not like the Eagles and Texans are world beaters. Browns were outscored like 77-13 in their games against Pittsburgh and Baltimore. If they were the Bills you wouldn’t be saying what you’re saying. This is right. They do have a stellar defensive end in Garrett, but overall the unit isn’t that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, slipkid said: This is kind of a “bye-week-thought/fodder.” I apologize if this has been brought up (I haven’t seen it), and it really doesn’t mean much when playoff seedings shake out, but the AFC North is a combined 8-1-1 against the NFC East with the loss and tie belonging ti the Bengals. Is it fair to suggest that the records of the Steelers, Browns, and Ravens have a lot to do with their putrid NFC schedule? Or is the opposite the case—the NFC East looks bad because they have played excellent teams in the AFC North? Obviously, both are probably true, but I think it’s much more the former than the latter. NFC East? By far the WORST conference in the league? 3-6-1 followed by 3-7 and 3-7 and 3-7 WHY ??? SOS? Three teams in the DIV have 6 or more wins. they have already played each other once. Edited November 23, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The remaining SOS softest to hardest 12. Browns (.462) 22. Ravens (.529) 27. Steelers (.576) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The remaining SOS softest to hardest 12. Browns (.462) 22. Ravens (.529) 27. Steelers (.576) Nice. Who has Pitt even beaten besides Baltimore? I feel like every week they're playing a bad team. Hope to hand them their first L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 After 40 games played the NFC East has 4 wins against non-division teams: Dallas: 40-39 over the 3-7 Falcons (epic Falcons collapse) Dallas: 31-28 over the 4-6 Vikings Philadelphia: 25-20 over the 4-6 49ers Washington: 20-9 over the 2-7-1 Bengals As per ESPN's playoff machine, if the teams with the better winning % win the rest of their games, the Eagles will take the division with a 5-10-1 record. I can't remember a division ever being this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 15 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: It’s definitely more the former! I mean, Cleveland at seven and three? They are not that good! Agree. Ive watched all the Browns games but one. Hunt has been tough running, and Chubb is back now too, but Mayfield has topped out and is playing college ball out there. They dont suck but not a 7-3 playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipkid Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: NFC East? By far the WORST conference in the league? 3-6-1 followed by 3-7 and 3-7 and 3-7 WHY ??? Pederson took some heat for not going for the win in OT against the Bengals because ties almost always cost the team in the end. It turns out ties actually help your chances when everyone in the division has a losing record. Did he know something back in the beginning of September?😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGahee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 meh, our division is putrid as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 18 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: It’s definitely more the former! I mean, Cleveland at seven and three? They are not that good! Cleveland is taking full advantage of 3 horrible Lake Erie weather home games. The Browns have a good running game and the Raiders, Texans and Eagles could not adjust in that rain and wind there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, zow2 said: Cleveland is taking full advantage of 3 horrible Lake Erie weather home games. The Browns have a good running game and the Raiders, Texans and Eagles could not adjust in that rain and wind there. The Iggles completely sold out to stop the run against the Browns. I expect that to be the defensive game plan against them from here on out. It’ll be interesting to see how the perform against that. In general I think the Browns are some where between where the 2018 and 2019 Bills teams were in development. I’d have them close to the 2019 Bills if not for Mayfield’s regression. And coincidentally if the playoffs started today the Bills would be hosting the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: The remaining SOS softest to hardest 12. Browns (.462) 22. Ravens (.529) 27. Steelers (.576) Every Browns game is vs. NFC East, Bengals, Jags, Texans, Jets, etc.. At the end of the day they have 5 hard games this season.. (Steelers x2, Ravens x2, Colts). I like what they've done in Cleveland and they are taking advantage of the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Nice. Who has Pitt even beaten besides Baltimore? I feel like every week they're playing a bad team. Hope to hand them their first L I've been a big voice on the "pittsburghs schedule sucks" but they have beaten the 7-3 browns, 7-3 titans as well..... so while i dont believe they are as good as their record indicates they have still handled the good teams put in front of them. .... theres no way in h*** they are 10-0 with a schedule like ours though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I've been a big voice on the "pittsburghs schedule sucks" but they have beaten the 7-3 browns, 7-3 titans as well..... so while i dont believe they are as good as their record indicates they have still handled the good teams put in front of them. .... theres no way in h*** they are 10-0 with a schedule like ours though. watching the steelers vs dallas, i really don't think they can cover any of our WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) On 11/23/2020 at 11:59 AM, zow2 said: Every Browns game is vs. NFC East, Bengals, Jags, Texans, Jets, etc.. At the end of the day they have 5 hard games this season.. (Steelers x2, Ravens x2, Colts). I like what they've done in Cleveland and they are taking advantage of the schedule. It's the Browns. one playoff appearance (2002). The last playoff win game came with Bernie Kosar era Edited November 26, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Huh? The 2018 Bills won 6 games. Browns already have 7. They are a solid team and would present as a tough match up round 1 as Bills struggle to run the ball and stop the run.... I just hope the weather is good in Buffalo for that first playoff game considering the Bills can't run the ball and Josh seems to thrive in games where the weather isn't a factor. They are closer to 2019 than 2018 Bills to be sure and I agree that they’d be a tough out for the Bills. That’s more match up related than thinking they’re as good as the Bills right now though. They are probably on the right track, but this is year 1 for Stefanski and his crew. That’s one issue. The other big ones are a lack of talent for their defensive scheme (though they have some very big talents like Garrett and Ward) and Mayfield’s regression. Note that I am from Cleveland and root for both teams so maybe I’m being a little more critical of the Browns than I need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 1:17 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: It's the Browns. one playoff appearance (2002). The last playoff game came with Bernie Kosar era Kosar’s last season in Cleveland was 1993. He was well out of the league by 2002. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 10:29 PM, zow2 said: Every Browns game is vs. NFC East, Bengals, Jags, Texans, Jets, etc.. At the end of the day they have 5 hard games this season.. (Steelers x2, Ravens x2, Colts). I like what they've done in Cleveland and they are taking advantage of the schedule. this. You play with what is given to you and they have done a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 17 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Kosar’s last season in Cleveland was 1993. He was well out of the league by 2002. Oops forgot the word Win. Vinny Testaverde 1995. Bernie was 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 1:17 PM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: It's the Browns. one playoff appearance (2002). The last playoff win game came with Bernie Kosar era And the Bills have made the playoffs very recently, but they also had a huge stretch before that, and haven't won a playoff game since 95. Quit acting like Buffalo's history had been much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/23/2020 at 1:02 PM, ScottLaw said: Huh? The 2018 Bills won 6 games. Browns already have 7. They are a solid team and would present as a tough match up round 1 as Bills struggle to run the ball and stop the run.... I just hope the weather is good in Buffalo for that first playoff game considering the Bills can't run the ball and Josh seems to thrive in games where the weather isn't a factor. i don’t think the browns are that good; but I agree that we don’t match up with them well at all. I do not want to play them At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 8:56 PM, ScottLaw said: Yea... Cleveland has a ton of talent. Problem with them has been coaching. Stefanski has fixed that. They will be a tough out in the playoffs with that running game. If they even make the playoffs. 3 hours ago, cle23 said: And the Bills have made the playoffs very recently, but they also had a huge stretch before that, and haven't won a playoff game since 95. Quit acting like Buffalo's history had been much better. Cleveland is a garbage heap, the owner is a crook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, TBBills said: If they even make the playoffs. Cleveland is a garbage heap, the owner is a crook. A 7-3 garbage heap. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, cle23 said: A 7-3 garbage heap. Right. 3 losses were blowouts when you actually played good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan619 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 hours ago, cle23 said: A 7-3 garbage heap. Right. I’m not saying they suck but they haven’t played the most stellar competition to get to that record. 1 hour ago, TBBills said: 3 losses were blowouts when you actually played good teams. Exactly. Great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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