DCofNC Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 I recall a lot of people making that pre-draft comparison, Allen is twice the player Wentz is and a Way bigger factor in his team’s success. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Carson Wentz is very good. What he's doing with no weapons this year is incredible. Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Before Wentz got hurt on the Eagles way to the Super Bowl, I honestly thought he was on his way to being one of the top 3 QB's in the league. He was making some amazing throws and great field awareness. That injury really set him back 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I recall a lot of people making that pre-draft comparison, Allen is twice the player Wentz is and a Way bigger factor in his team’s success. We watched Josh Allen play with Wentz-level receivers in 2018. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: We watched Josh Allen play with Wentz-level receivers in 2018. Yeah, and Allen was a rookie, not a 5 yr player. But let's throw more apples to oranges comparisons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Wentz is having a real struggle. He doesn't have much around him but man he holds the ball so long and is late on so many throws even when he completes. He was like this last year then the last 5 or 6 weeks suddenly found some form. I don't see a similar revival this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: Wentz is having a real struggle. He doesn't have much around him but man he holds the ball so long and is late on so many throws even when he completes. He was like this last year then the last 5 or 6 weeks suddenly found some form. I don't see a similar revival this year. He’s pressing. I read somewhere that he’s throwing a lot of “wormburners” - he’s gripping the ball so tightly it’s hitting the ground short of his receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: He’s pressing. I read somewhere that he’s throwing a lot of “wormburners” - he’s gripping the ball so tightly it’s hitting the ground short of his receivers. Yep. I have said he is like a golfer with the yips and the problem there is often how hard they are gripping the putter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said: Yeah, and Allen was a rookie, not a 5 yr player. But let's throw more apples to oranges comparisons. Yeah, that's what the OP is lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 What is happening on this board? We just got blown out and Eagles almost beat Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chemical said: What is happening on this board? We just got blown out and Eagles almost beat Ravens. Maybe it's because we're still 4-1 and the only team we've lost to is currently 5-0, but you go ahead and lean into being miserable. Edited October 18, 2020 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Maybe it's because we're still 4-1 and the only team we've lost to is currently 5-0, but you go ahead and lean into being miserable. What does that have to do with Wentz? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, Chemical said: What does that have to do with Wentz? 9 minutes ago, Chemical said: What is happening on this board? We just got blown out and Eagles almost beat Ravens. What does this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: Carson Wentz is very good. What he's doing with no weapons this year is incredible. Let's not get ahead of ourselves yet. Miles Sanders and Zach Ertz are hardly "no weapons" 6 games. 1 win. Winless at home. 8 TDs. 9INTs. 200 ypg. You've redefined "incredible". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: What does this? He’s talking about Josh Allen compared to Wentz do you need help reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I recall a lot of people making that pre-draft comparison, Allen is twice the player Wentz is and a Way bigger factor in his team’s success. How can you make that statement 5 games into the season? he needs to finish the year and produce in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Miles Sanders and Zach Ertz are hardly "no weapons" 6 games. 1 win. Winless at home. 8 TDs. 9INTs. 200 ypg. You've redefined "incredible". miles sanders. Weapon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Chemical said: He’s talking about Josh Allen compared to Wentz do you need help reading? So us losing one game has something to do with it....but winning the 4 previous games doesn't? Do you need to adjust your chemicals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Miles Sanders and Zach Ertz are hardly "no weapons" 6 games. 1 win. Winless at home. 8 TDs. 9INTs. 200 ypg. You've redefined "incredible". His top 3 WR's are out! If Diggs, Brown and Beasley were all hurt, would we say Josh still has weapons in Singletary? Insanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So us losing one game has something to do with it....but winning the 4 previous games doesn't? Do you need to adjust your chemicals? hilarious. This is my impression of you “we won four games and we lost one game so there” Great argument. I was simply pointing out the prevalence of threads shitting on other teams today when we are not playing Edited October 18, 2020 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Wentz rang up 29 fantasy points today. Fortunately the other guy benched him for Mayfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chemical said: miles sanders. Weapon Seriously? He had over 800 yards as a rookie. This year, he has games of 95, 95, 46 and 80 yards. 80 mpg, 4.78 per carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Seriously? He had over 800 yards as a rookie. This year, he has games of 95, 95, 46 and 80 yards. 80 mpg, 4.78 per carry. 800 yards! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Seriously? He had over 800 yards as a rookie. This year, he has games of 95, 95, 46 and 80 yards. 80 mpg, 4.78 per carry. 1 minute ago, Chemical said: 800 yards! Hey now! 800 rushing yards was good enough for 21st in the NFL in rushing! This guy is on his way to the Hall of Fame, he's dangerous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 80 mpg is impressive for any vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Hey now! 800 rushing yards was good enough for 21st in the NFL in rushing! This guy is on his way to the Hall of Fame, he's dangerous! by those standards who isn’t a “weapon” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chemical said: hilarious. This is my impression of you “we won four games and we lost one game so there” Great argument. I was simply pointing out the prevalence of threads shitting on other teams today when we are not playing So this: 21 minutes ago, Chemical said: What is happening on this board? We just got blown out and Eagles almost beat Ravens. Is about all the talk about other teams on a game day in which we don't play? Which is somehow relevant about the comparison between Allen and Wentz? My impression of you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: His top 3 WR's are out! If Diggs, Brown and Beasley were all hurt, would we say Josh still has weapons in Singletary? Insanity. So you agree that Ertz and Sanders = "no weapons". That's insanity, yes. Jackson and Jeffery are tough losses, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: So you agree that Ertz and Sanders = "no weapons". That's insanity, yes. Jackson and Jeffery are tough losses, no doubt. And Jalen Reagor. They have a good TE and a solid RB. As it stands, it's one of the WORST skill position groups in the NFL. Honestly, how many teams have a worse skill player line up? The Jets/Giants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chemical said: 800 yards! He was their leading rusher last year. Ertz was their leading receiver. Both played today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Chemical said: What is happening on this board? We just got blown out and Eagles almost beat Ravens. Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: And Jalen Reagor. They have a good TE and a solid RB. As it stands, it's one of the WORST skill position groups in the NFL. Honestly, how many teams have a worse skill player line up? The Jets/Giants? If you think the Eagles are fielding a bad team this year just wait until next year. The Eagles organization mortgaged itself the last few years to put the best team around Wentz they could. Wentz has a combined losing record over the last 3 seasons. He's not horrible but the 2017 season was a anomaly for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Lets relax Wenz is still a very very good QB. he legit has zero weapons there and everyone else is hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Just now, ColoradoBills said: If you think the Eagles are fielding a bad team this year just wait until next year. The Eagles organization mortgaged itself the last few years to put the best team around Wentz they could. Wentz has a combined losing record over the last 3 seasons. He's not horrible but the 2017 season was a anomaly for him. The team isn't terrible. They are just hurt. OG tore his Achilles. Starting LT tore biceps. Backup LT foot injury. Top 3 WR's out. That's tough luck. This team would look like ***** if we were missing Dawkins, Dawkins back up, Diggs, Beasley and Brown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: And Jalen Reagor. They have a good TE and a solid RB. As it stands, it's one of the WORST skill position groups in the NFL. Honestly, how many teams have a worse skill player line up? The Jets/Giants? Reagor is a rookie. Played 2 games. Not a huge loss. Greg Ward is doing what that kid was doing. Jeffrey is often injured--470 yards last year. It's just not true that he has "no weapons". Missing some, but not "none". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: The team isn't terrible. They are just hurt. OG tore his Achilles. Starting LT tore biceps. Backup LT foot injury. Top 3 WR's out. That's tough luck. This team would look like ***** if we were missing Dawkins, Dawkins back up, Diggs, Beasley and Brown. I'm not arguing that and by the way it makes no sense to attempt to. They are 70 million over the cap next year with only 41 players signed. They will have to dump a lot of players. They will not field a good team next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Reagor is a rookie. Played 2 games. Not a huge loss. Greg Ward is doing what that kid was doing. Jeffrey is often injured--470 yards last year. It's just not true that he has "no weapons". Missing some, but not "none". He was their first round pick lol. Please tell me what skill position group in the NFL you'd take the Eagles over. I'll wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The people who are holding out from anointing Josh are saying he could be just another Carson Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: He was their first round pick lol. Please tell me what skill position group in the NFL you'd take the Eagles over. I'll wait. He can't be a huge loss or a top receiver if he's only played 2 games in the league... I'll make it easier: since you keep repeating what the equivalent for the Bills losses would be, would you swap out Wentz for Allen and expect the same result (4-1)? You think Allen would be 1-4-1 on that team? Edited October 18, 2020 by Mr. WEO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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