NFL illegal block rule

[Simon]

"a player initiates a block in which he is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder"

 

They've been calling it for a couple years to minimize concussions and whether we like or not that was a penalty on McKenzie

[Southern Bills Fan]

Was he moving toward or parallel to his own end zone? It didn’t look like it. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I didn’t like the call either.  
bogus call 

 

[co_springs_billsfan]

Just now, Southern Bills Fan said:

Was he moving toward or parallel to his own end zone? It didn’t look like it. 

Wasn't moving at all

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Was he moving toward or parallel to his own end zone? It didn’t look like it. 

 

If your lined up outside coming down the LOS and pop somebody they will call it every time now

 

2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Was he moving toward or parallel to his own end zone? It didn’t look like it. 

 

the key is he initiated forcible contact with his shoulder

[Captain_Quint]

If there is any contact, they have to just screen them, not hit them. They called it that way last week too. 

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

If there is any contact, they have to just screen them, not hit them. They called it that way last week too. 

 

yeah its like setting a pick or even taking a charge now 

You can only get into the block if you're heading upfield, not laterally

 

[Bermuda Triangle]

8 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

If your lined up outside coming down the LOS and pop somebody they will call it every time now

 

 

the key is he initiated forcible contact with his shoulder

per the rule you quoted, the block must be initiated when the player "is moving toward or parallel to his own end line ".

 

If that part of the equation is missing, then it's another crap call. 

[Simon]

you could say he's moving when he lunges forward with his shoulder

its a penalty now and will get called every time

[Captain_Quint]

2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

per the rule you quoted, the block must be initiated when the player "is moving toward or parallel to his own end line ".

 

If that part of the equation is missing, then it's another crap call. 

It doesnt really matter how its worded, they are looking for those plays now, and are going to call it most of the time. They talked about it specifically in the offseason. 

In that same situation, McKenzie just needs to get in the guys way and put his hands up. 

[GoBills808]

22 minutes ago, Simon said:

"a player initiates a block in which he is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder"

 

They've been calling it for a couple years to minimize concussions and whether we like or not that was a penalty on McKenzie

He was moving forward not parallel or backwards

 

no blindside

[I'm Spartacus]

I don't care. The ref is still a Booger.

[Bermuda Triangle]

1 minute ago, Captain_Quint said:

It doesnt really matter how its worded, they are looking for those plays now, and are going to call it most of the time. They talked about it specifically in the offseason. 

In that same situation, McKenzie just needs to get in the guys way and put his hands up. 

 

if the rules aren't going to be followed, what's the point of having them?

[GoBills808]

19 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Was he moving toward or parallel to his own end zone? It didn’t look like it. 

No he was moving forward

 

they need to adjust the language of the rule if they’re going to call it that way

[Mr. K]

While I wasn't a fan of the call nobody should be surprised in the age of player safety.

[Ya Digg?]

It was a great, clean block-there has to be awareness by the defense too. He didn’t launch at him, he didn’t hit him in the head/neck, it was simply a bad call. The dolphins CB had pretty much literally no awareness on that play 

[MJS]

19 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

If your lined up outside coming down the LOS and pop somebody they will call it every time now

 

 

the key is he initiated forcible contact with his shoulder

He was moving toward the opponent's end zone.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Mr. K said:

While I wasn't a fan of the call nobody should be surprised in the age of player safety.

 

Its all about protecting guys heads and that's a wicked situation in regards to getting concussed by an opponent, the turf or whiplash

[GG]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Its all about protecting guys heads and that's a wicked situation in regards to getting concussed by an opponent, the turf or whiplash

So it's now a penalty when a rookie DB didn't have enough field awareness?

 

Mckittrick was moving forward when he made the block on a DB who was running wild in pursuit.  

[GoBills808]

Just now, GG said:

So it's now a penalty when a rookie DB didn't have enough field awareness?

 

Mckittrick was moving forward when he made the block on a DB who was running wild in pursuit.  

Right. If it’s a safety thing then fine

 

but you can’t justify the call by the language of the rule 

[Simon]

Just now, GG said:

So it's now a penalty when a rookie DB didn't have enough field awareness?

 

Mckittrick was moving forward when he made the block on a DB who was running wild in pursuit.  

 

If he just stands there it won't get called but you cannot put a shoulder into him

And if it was forward, it was about as forward as  Frank Wychek pass.

 

[Captain_Quint]

7 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

 

if the rules aren't going to be followed, what's the point of having them?

I agree. They have rewritten that rule in the past couple of years, but it still isnt being called as written.

[GG]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

If he just stands there it won't get called but you cannot put a shoulder into him

And if it was forward, it was about as forward as  Frank Wychek pass.

 

Watch the replay, McKenzie's body was pointing Northeast of the LoS.   That's not parallel.  

[Simon]

Just now, GG said:

Watch the replay, McKenzie's body was pointing Northeast of the LoS.   That's not parallel.  

 

I dont have any replay capability

I thought it was a penalty while the play was live.

I also thought the LB got hooked on the edge and was actually looking for two flags

 

 

[CircleTheWagons99]

Well he did brace for the hit so that’s moving I guess???

[Alaska Darin]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

"a player initiates a block in which he is moving toward or parallel to his own end line and makes forcible contact to his opponent with his helmet, forearm, or shoulder"

 

They've been calling it for a couple years to minimize concussions and whether we like or not that was a penalty on McKenzie

He was stationary.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:

He was stationary.

 

He threw a shoulder at him

[Alaska Darin]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

He threw a shoulder at him

Not illegal.

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

Not illegal.

 

youre not allowed to initiate forcible contact any more; the shoulder is even written into the rule

[Alaska Darin]

7 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

youre not allowed to initiate forcible contact any more; the shoulder is even written into the rule

The key word is "initiate".  He stood his ground and protected himself with a normal football movement. 

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:

The key word is "initiate".  He stood his ground and protected himself with a normal football movement. 

 

I disagree.

He didn't jack him up like he could have but I still thought he threw a shoulder in there

[Jerome007]

I have done such a block ... in touch football! Come on now. I fully understand the rule and need to protect players but that was no penalty

[Bermuda Triangle]

How about this silly flag on Hyde?

 

Maybe Hyde should have picked the receiver up, rocked him, wrapped him in a blanket, kissed him, and let him down on the ground.

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

How about this silly flag on Hyde?

 

Maybe Hyde should have picked the receiver up, rocked him, wrapped him in a blanket, kissed him, and let him down on the ground.

That would be called the revised "tuck him in rule".

[GoBills808]

23 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:

The key word is "initiate".  He stood his ground and protected himself with a normal football movement. 

The key is the direction, initiate is subjective imo. It’s clearly meant to stop people from getting hit in normal pursuit...you literally can’t be called for blindside block by rule if you are blocking toward the opponent’s goal line.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, GG said:

Watch the replay, McKenzie's body was pointing Northeast of the LoS.   That's not parallel.  

 

So it was a backwards lateral...

[vincec]

1 hour ago, Captain_Quint said:

It doesnt really matter how its worded, they are looking for those plays now, and are going to call it most of the time. They talked about it specifically in the offseason. 

In that same situation, McKenzie just needs to get in the guys way and put his hands up. 

And get run over? Maybe he can fake a block and then dive out of the way.

[Doc]

Just now, vincec said:

And get run over? Maybe he can fake a block and then dive out of the way.

 

Yeah, who are they trying to protect?  You're sacrificing one player to save another.  Dumb.

[Coach Tuesday]

Honestly looked like the defender ran right into him and he put his shoulder out to protect himself.  If he doesn’t do that he gets himself lit up so I’m not sure what they expect him to do.  Maybe that’s the rule but if so it’s a bad rule.  But I don’t think he “initiated” contact and also Jerome Boger is the worst referee in all of sports including pee wee football.

[Teddy KGB]

That call paired with the Ford call

makes me want to quit watching.   
 

Disgusting how soft they are making the league.