The NFL Follows Suit With "Social Justice" Message

[Jauronimo]

12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I honestly would hate to lose friends I have made on this site over politics.....and admittedly I am a reactive poster (see something stupid......post that it is stupid)

 

but

 

This particular issue runs deep......The NBA season was nearly CANCELED earlier this week.......teams like the lakers and clippers literally didnt want to play and Obama steps in and helps out........

 

Bottom line........people need to start listening and stop denying........or their WILL be a hard time keeping these sports going because the stars wont play.....which in term would greatly affect this site.

 

Still......I understand your point......voice of reason is still a good thing to hear

The NBA was extremely divided over the decision to stop play and cancel the season.  LeBron thought the stoppage was stupid and I agree.  A work stoppage with no agenda, no plan, is asinine.  Furthermore, they did it before any real facts were known.  Are they going to stop play every time someone is shot by a LEO?  Do the circumstances matter?

 

Postponing games may look like a powerful statement to some but I don't know what the message is.  The NHL followed suit because the media mob demands it and they don't want to look bad.

 

If the stars don't want to play then I wish them all the best of luck applying their skills in other fields.  LeBron and Mahomes will have hard time competing with me in the world of financial services.

[BillsSB2020KO]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Scenario one

 

A man of color walks away from cops....reaches into his car (where later a knife was found) and is shot several times in the back

 

Scenario two

 

A automatic weapon wielding young man kills 2 people and injuries another.....and police approach....ignore the one WITH THE WEAPON with people screaming that he had just killed someone.......he is allowed to leave the scene....drive home.....and sleep in his own bed before finally being apprehended.   Video surfaces that the police in the area actually gave this young man bottles of water and THANKING him for being their WITH HIS WEAPON.

 

And you cant see the "evidence"?

I’ll save you the embarrassment of having unwittingly proven my point—literally proven my point—and just let you see yourself out. 

 

Yikes.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

Good. Sports should be cancelled then. Because the average person is incapable of defending themselves against high level psychological operations such as the blatant race baiting propaganda that is propelled by media operatives and influencers. And these people are puppets used to influence you. 

 

Follow a backless narrative if you want, but just realize you’re being mind f***ed by people who know your psychology inside and out and mean to destroy this country from within. It’s actually astonishing how such basic divide and conquer tactics work on the majority of the population. 

 

If no no one in sports has the courage to challenge a narrative that is utterly untrue then screw sports. 

Typical Trump cultists......if you were eating chicken ***** and he told you were eating chicken dinner......you would believe him.    If you get rid of sports this very site goes away.....but hey you will be happy while the majority would not

[Coach Tuesday]

4 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

Good. Sports should be cancelled then. Because the average person is incapable of defending themselves against high level psychological operations such as the blatant race baiting propaganda that is propelled by media operatives and influencers. And these people are puppets used to influence you. 

 

Follow a backless narrative if you want, but just realize you’re being mind f***ed by people who know your psychology inside and out and mean to destroy this country from within. It’s actually astonishing how such basic divide and conquer tactics work on the majority of the population. 

 

If no no one in sports has the courage to challenge a narrative that is utterly untrue then screw sports. 

This is insane.  

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

The NBA was extremely divided over the decision to stop play and cancel the season.  LeBron thought the stoppage was stupid and I agree.  A work stoppage with no agenda, no plan, is asinine.  Furthermore, they did it before any real facts were known.  Are they going to stop play every time someone is shot by a LEO?  Do the circumstances matter?

 

Postponing games may look like a powerful statement to some but I don't know what the message is.  The NHL followed suit because the media mob demands it and they don't want to look bad.

 

If the stars don't want to play then I wish them all the best of luck applying their skills in other fields.  LeBron and Mahomes will have hard time competing with me in the world of financial services.

They wouldnt need to because they have already made their money......the ones who would suffer would be the players coming up behind them

 

and.....life without sports would totally suck

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 minute ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

I’ll save you the embarrassment of having unwittingly proven my point—literally proven my point—and just let you see yourself out. 

 

Yikes.

You joined last week to bring such wisdom? my guess is a burner account for one of the other gems on here.

[ColoradoBills]

 

This thread...................

 

[BillsSB2020KO]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Typical Trump cultists......if you were eating chicken ***** and he told you were eating chicken dinner......you would believe him.    If you get rid of sports this very site goes away.....but hey you will be happy while the majority would not

Hey bub, you’re truly outside your range here. So I will no longer waste time and energy on you. I am not engaged in the fake right left paradigm. 

 

I hope you come within hailing distance of objectivity one day. I truly truly do

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

I’ll save you the embarrassment of having unwittingly proven my point—literally proven my point—and just let you see yourself out. 

 

Yikes.

Or you could defend the undefensible......I will wait

1 minute ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

Hey bub, you’re truly outside your range here. So I will no longer waste time and energy on you. I am not engaged in the fake right left paradigm. 

 

I hope you come within hailing distance of objectivity one day. I truly truly do

Got it...you cant defend it so your out.....typical

[Westside]

Why is supporting the president make you a cult member? The hyperbole is out of control.

[BillsSB2020KO]

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This is insane.  

Compelling argument. Haha I love people like you I really do. Everyone’s mind is twitter-fied. Incapable of creating and articulating a position. Just snipes and insults. 

[Cal]

If they play the "black national anthem". I'm done.

[Coach Tuesday]

3 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

Hey bub, you’re truly outside your range here. So I will no longer waste time and energy on you. I am not engaged in the fake right left paradigm. 

 

I hope you come within hailing distance of objectivity one day. I truly truly do

The most amazing conceit of the far right neo-fascist flyover state lunasphere is believing that their own sad addled bigoted brains are worthy of being hacked into and manipulated.  Go peddle your Pizza Gate garbage in PPP.  This place isn’t the sewer.  We don’t need Lyndon LaRouche flyer distributors up here.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Coach Tuesday

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, KD in CA said:

 

I was thinking they'd go with "Be Excellent to Each Other" and "Party On Dudes"

 

I'm with either of those - and in particular I try my best to abide by the first - but some would perceive that dudes is inclusive. Horrors.

[MiltonWaddams]

15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Now wait wait......one of those protesters who got killed this week was "armed" with a skateboard.......and of course he had it acomin because he should have ignored that the shooter had just KILLED someone

Love that one. Because people who are trying to stop people from killing other people should definitely be killed. The world needs fewer people trying to stop people from killing and needs more guns. We all know that to be fact! Gotta protect what’s mine!

[John from Riverside]

13 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Pretty sure if i fight the cops, and have a knife, and continue refusing their commands, and then re-engage them in physical conflict while in possession of said knife, i have given them plenty of justification to shoot me as many times as it takes to end the threat. So, since i have this common sense, i ask again, why would i do this?

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

6 minutes ago, BillsSB2020KO said:

Compelling argument. Haha I love people like you I really do. Everyone’s mind is twitter-fied. Incapable of creating and articulating a position. Just snipes and insults. 

You cant even justify your own position and your complaining about someone else?

[MiltonWaddams]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

Honestly, John, don’t bother with this guy. Go to PPP and see his posts. He is definitely never going to agree with you. He leans so far right that he just tipped over and fell right into the cesspool. He’s kind of like the joker when he comes out of that nuclear waste stuff. You just can’t get through to him

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I'm with either of those - and in particular I try my best to abide by the first - but some would perceive that dudes is inclusive. Horrors.

I am in support of either of those messages!

[FLFan]

10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This is insane.  

Yes, it is.  Unfortunately, that sort of drivel is what passes for civil discourse in Trumpworld.  

[Coach Tuesday]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

You cant even justify your own position and your complaining about someone else?

Oh you poor dear.  You can’t see that the media and George Soros are developing a fake vaccine in response to a fake disease, in order to control your mind and turn you into a pedophile?  Silly dear.

[BullBuchanan]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

You cant even justify your own position and your complaining about someone else?

He's a cop. What do you expect?

[aristocrat]

6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

You cant even justify your own position and your complaining about someone else?

you did leave out all the prior events to the teaching in the car.  Those are very important details

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

He's a cop. What do you expect?

I wouldn’t go nearly that far and honestly that kind of thinking is part of the problem.

[Sig1Hunter]

7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

A cop has justification to shoot someone 7 times if they reach into a car and dont come out with the knife in hand?

 

WTF are you smoking?

You cant even justify your own position and your complaining about someone else?

How do you know he didnt have the knife in hand?

[SCBills]

Last time I read this thread was page 1...

 

I see it’s progressed exactly as expected ha. 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, aristocrat said:

you did leave out all the prior events to the teaching in the car.  Those are very important details

He was in a scuffle with the police.....

Do you shoot someone 7 times in that situation in the back?  THEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE PROOF AT THE TIME THAT HE EVEN HAD A WEAPON

 

Under no circumstance is this ok

 

 

[Westside]

Just now, SCBills said:

Last time I read this thread was page 1...

 

I see it’s progressed exactly as expected ha. 

Sad isn't it. So much anger. Unreal.

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

 You do? At least 30% of the country is actively trying to keep it alive and well, maybe more.

Even if that is true and supportable by data and fact vs. opinion is 30% systemic?

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

How do you know he didnt have the knife in hand?

Because the knife was "later" found

 

but hey.....lets even give the benefit of the doubt that he had it in his hand (which he didnt)......LETHAL FORCE was used without the police offers being in immediate danger as he wa leaning INTO his car

 

There is no scenario that plays out that this is ok

[Sig1Hunter]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

He was in a scuffle with the police.....

Do you shoot someone 7 times in that situation in the back?  THEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE PROOF AT THE TIME THAT HE EVEN HAD A WEAPON

 

Under no circumstance is this ok

 

 

Cops can be heard yelling “drop the knife” on video. Hes holding something that looks suspiciously like a knife. A knife was recovered from the location where he was shot. Weird...

[aristocrat]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He was in a scuffle with the police.....

Do you shoot someone 7 times in that situation in the back?  THEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE PROOF AT THE TIME THAT HE EVEN HAD A WEAPON

 

Under no circumstance is this ok

 

 

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

Even if that is true and supportable by data and fact vs. opinion is 30% systemic?

Systemic racism is not dependent on the opinions of the populace but rather the machinations of the system.

 

[Sig1Hunter]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

Because the knife was "later" found

 

but hey.....lets even give the benefit of the doubt that he had it in his hand (which he didnt)......LETHAL FORCE was used without the police offers being in immediate danger as he wa leaning INTO his car

 

There is no scenario that plays out that this is ok

Where did you get your use of force training? Are you familiar with Graham v Connor? 

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Cops can be heard yelling “drop the knife” on video. Hes holding something that looks suspiciously like a knife. A knife was recovered from the location where he was shot. Weird...

Because cops never lie. Are you sure that's not a banana? I guess folks have been shot over holding sandwiches too.

 

Also, if it was a knife, I don't care. If it was a gun, I don't care. If it was a grenade, I don't care. If you can't do your job without murdering your employers, you shouldn't have one.

Edited September 2, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Cops can be heard yelling “drop the knife” on video. Hes holding something that looks suspiciously like a knife. A knife was recovered from the location where he was shot. Weird...

Wow you can tell that is a knife?

 

He didnt turn towards the officers.....who were in no immediate danger and shot him SEVEN TIMES INT HE BACK

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Because the knife was "later" found

 

but hey.....lets even give the benefit of the doubt that he had it in his hand (which he didnt)......LETHAL FORCE was used without the police offers being in immediate danger as he wa leaning INTO his car

 

There is no scenario that plays out that this is ok

Well that’s not true either.  Granted we are now in the land of hypotheticals but if he was grabbing a knife while engaged with the cops then almost any jury is going to find that lethal force was justified.  We cannot live in a society where a perp can grab a weapon while engaged with police and they have to ask politely for him to put it down.  OTOH we have yet to hear definitively that he grabbed his knife and if that had happened you’d expect that to be the first thing to be pointed to in defense of what happened.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Cops can be heard yelling “drop the knife” on video. Hes holding something that looks suspiciously like a knife. A knife was recovered from the location where he was shot. Weird...

From the stories I read 

he was not in possession of a weapon when

 

they kind of look like sunglasses ? to me. 

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Where did you get your use of force training? Are you familiar with Graham v Connor? 

As a Air Force Intel I worked with security police all damn day long.....I also worked for a private security company where I worked alongside police offiers

 

I know the drill.......and if your a cop I severely question your judgement

Edited September 2, 2020 by John from Riverside

[Sig1Hunter]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Wow you can tell that is a knife?

 

He didnt turn towards the officers.....who were in no immediate danger and shot him SEVEN TIMES INT HE BACK

Ignorance is bliss, John. Enjoy it buddy. I’m out.

 

As always, I will still look forward to your views on Bills football because I enjoy reading those (if the league continues). 

[gobills404]

35 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Now wait wait......one of those protesters who got killed this week was "armed" with a skateboard.......and of course he had it acomin because he should have ignored that the shooter had just KILLED someone

You should do some actual research beyond reading headlines. The first guy he shot was chasing after him and threw something at him when someone else fired a handgun at the kid. Thats when he turned around, saw the first guy coming right at him, and shot him.

The breakdown starts at 2:24.

Edited September 2, 2020 by gobills404