First Round Bust Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ = 17.2 M of cap spave available - 14th most in the league - likely to go down a bit this week with camp cuts and the corresponding dead cap associated but that is league-wide... Winters official cap numbers were finally published - 1 year 3M - fully guaranteed -some give and take - took a pay cut compared to prior contract but gave him the 100% guaranteed money...not likely to be a camp cut this week... So..predicting-figuring the OL depth chart...is still a mystery RT - Ford - Williams or Nsekhe RG - Winters - Ford (could be Ford if either one of the above are good enough at RT and we just dont know) C - Morse - Boehm LG - Spain - Winters LT - Dawkins - Williams or Bates - So the questions are: Is Williams the backup at LT and RT - does that make Nsekhe a possible cut if Williams is capable of that ? Nsekhe has the much bigger cap number over Williams as well - plus dont think he swings to LT ? Boehm is listed as the only backup C - at least until Feliciano returns and when is that ? a mid-season IR candidate.. I don't see him being carried on active as the spot is too valuable on gameday. Spain seems safe this season as his cap number is 4.5M guaranteed When Feliciano returns, someone on the OL likely cut, unless injuries dictate...at that point Boehm could be as he plays only C ? I dont see Feliciano being cut tho it would be a cap saver over Boehm. Couple practice squad spots for vets as well which is pure conjecture at this point...flame on beotches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I’d put money on Ford and Williams starting on the right side. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I suspect they have a plan for back center. They were quick to get rid of Long even after knowing Feliciano was out. Has Bates lined up at center? I read he is capable of playing all 5 spots, just none of them that well. Any word on the UW UDFA tackle with injury history ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Ford-Williams. Nsekhe is backup LT/RT, Winters in backup LG/RG and Bates is backup everywhere. Feliciano kept until after first game then IR-R'd and someone brought back like Boehm. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I suspect they have a plan for back center. They were quick to get rid of Long even after knowing Feliciano was out. Has Bates lined up at center? I read he is capable of playing all 5 spots, just none of them that well. Any word on the UW UDFA tackle with injury history ? I heard Adam's has been struggling all training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: I’d put money on Ford and Williams starting on the right side. It does look that way to me too, Nsekhe is gonna be the back up swing tackle imo, being he has played both positions in his career. Morse, Spain and Dawkins are locks to start. Edited August 30, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Ford-Williams. Nsekhe is backup LT/RT, Winters in backup LG/RG and Bates is backup everywhere. Feliciano kept until after first game then IR-R'd and someone brought back like Boehm. I don't think he needs to be IR'd after first game. I thought he just needs to be o nthe 53 next Saturday. They can then place him on IR on Sunday and then has potential to return. Maybe then they Cut Boehm Saturday with promise to bring him back on Sunday with a small bump in $$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams Depth: Nsekhe, Boehm, Winters, Bates PUP: Feliciano That’s how I see it. Nsekhe is swing tackle. Boehm is backup Center. Bates/Winters interior swing. When Feliciano gets healthy, Winters is cut. Winters might be cut anyway. It seems like he has NOT looked good at camp. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I don't think he needs to be IR'd after first game. I thought he just needs to be o nthe 53 next Saturday. They can then place him on IR on Sunday and then has potential to return. Maybe then they Cut Boehm Saturday with promise to bring him back on Sunday with a small bump in $$ Even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Winters hasn't looked good, by all accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I heard Adam's has been struggling all training camp He's Practice Squad material, if that. 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Winters hasn't looked good, by all accounts. What did we think, he was not good enough to stick with the Jets and they are a dumpster fire on OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I don't think he needs to be IR'd after first game. I thought he just needs to be o nthe 53 next Saturday. They can then place him on IR on Sunday and then has potential to return. Maybe then they Cut Boehm Saturday with promise to bring him back on Sunday with a small bump in $$ I think that this scenario is VERY possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, MJS said: Winters hasn't looked good, by all accounts. There was an account the other day that he shined in individual reps during practice. Brian Winters has been quiet so far since being signed following his release from the New York Jets. He was excellent against Vincent Taylor in 1-on-1s, landing a pancake block on one rep and a powerful block on the other. The battle on the offensive line has been competitive throughout camp. I think he stays as depth just because he's a solid vet. But its gonna be a tough choice regardless. I know we'd prefer to keep players who can play multiple positions instead of a guy who can only play guard. But i think we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Ford will be at RG.. Williams will be at RT.. Winters will likely be the backup LG/RG.. Nsekhe will backup LT and RT.. Evan Boehm will likely be the backup center.. at least so I think.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc said: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Ford-Williams. Nsekhe is backup LT/RT, Winters in backup LG/RG and Bates is backup everywhere. Feliciano kept until after first game then IR-R'd and someone brought back like Boehm. Sounds about right to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 hours ago, First Round Bust said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ = 17.2 M of cap spave available - 14th most in the league - likely to go down a bit this week with camp cuts and the corresponding dead cap associated but that is league-wide... Winters official cap numbers were finally published - 1 year 3M - fully guaranteed -some give and take - took a pay cut compared to prior contract but gave him the 100% guaranteed money...not likely to be a camp cut this week... So..predicting-figuring the OL depth chart...is still a mystery RT - Ford - Williams or Nsekhe RG - Winters - Ford (could be Ford if either one of the above are good enough at RT and we just dont know) C - Morse - Boehm LG - Spain - Winters LT - Dawkins - Williams or Bates - So the questions are: Is Williams the backup at LT and RT - does that make Nsekhe a possible cut if Williams is capable of that ? Nsekhe has the much bigger cap number over Williams as well - plus dont think he swings to LT ? Boehm is listed as the only backup C - at least until Feliciano returns and when is that ? a mid-season IR candidate.. I don't see him being carried on active as the spot is too valuable on gameday. Spain seems safe this season as his cap number is 4.5M guaranteed When Feliciano returns, someone on the OL likely cut, unless injuries dictate...at that point Boehm could be as he plays only C ? I dont see Feliciano being cut tho it would be a cap saver over Boehm. Couple practice squad spots for vets as well which is pure conjecture at this point...flame on beotches Boehm has started at guard before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc said: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Ford-Williams. Nsekhe is backup LT/RT, Winters in backup LG/RG and Bates is backup everywhere. Feliciano kept until after first game then IR-R'd and someone brought back like Boehm. This is seems like the most logical plan. Hopefully Williams can do something since Brad Butler........... solve the RT position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’d put money on Ford and Williams starting on the right side. Me too. I think the starting offensive line is Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Williams. I think Nsekhe is a swing tackle Winters is a reserve interior lineman, and Ryan Bates is your emergency jack of all trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I suspect they have a plan for back center. They were quick to get rid of Long even after knowing Feliciano was out. Has Bates lined up at center? I read he is capable of playing all 5 spots, just none of them that well. Any word on the UW UDFA tackle with injury history ? We saw him play it in pre season....I thought he looked good. I am a Ryan Bates fan....this is the kind of player you NEED on your team because he can play all the spots and not look silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am a Ryan Bates fan....this is the kind of player you NEED on your team because he can play all the spots and not look silly I agree, I like Bates a lot. He would be our best option as backup Center, and can play OT in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Feliciano is a question at this point. The Bills could try and keep him as a 9th offensive lineman, or they could put him on IR after cutdown day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The decision on Feliciano will be based on two things: 1) how well Winters plays; and 2) what the prognosis is for his recovery. I don't think either of those things are fully known yet. And as others have said, I like having a guy like Bates on the roster. He has great versatility. He has mastered all of the positions along the line - truly the master backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Could Nsekhe get cut? He has a hard time staying healthy. They would save 3.2 million...I think looking at Spotrac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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