Pats now need to replace top 4 LBs from 2019 plus starting RT (now up to 8 opt outs)

[YoloinOhio]

3 hours ago, TBBills said:

Who the ***** really wants to play for the hoodie... Looks like no one.

I do sincerely think some guys don’t want to put themselves through the crap of belichick during a pandemic if they don’t have to and if they don’t think they have a SB contender. Brady being gone lends to that as well, there isn’t much player driven leadership There anymore 

[Putin]

On 7/28/2020 at 7:16 AM, GunnerBill said:

Hightower and Cannon are major losses. 

Did anyone feel sorry for us when we lost 
Wood and Incognito ?  BB is supposed to this Guinness the greatest football  coach to walk the earth , screw him and the whole state Massachusetts  NOTHING would make me happier then see the pats***************** go 0-16 

GO BILLS !!!

Edited July 29, 2020 by Putin

[Don Otreply]

20 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Belichick has way too much pride to go 0 and 16

Belichick has no pride, caught cheating how many times now...

[Punching Bag]

On 7/28/2020 at 8:05 AM, Stank_Nasty said:

I’m not a big fan of this. Just setting up that huge asterisk next to your name after we win a division title this year..... that we were gonna win anyways 

 

Does not matter since the P*ts will forever be asterisk kings outside of New England, television studios and troll posts.

On 7/28/2020 at 10:50 AM, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I see Football Outsiders are starting their excuses early for New England.

[Punching Bag]

23 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Hearing Patrick Chung is opting out as well, but cant find a link or source.

 

He is afraid this season may affect his cocaine supply.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29551606/source-patriots-donta-hightower-opt-2020-season

 

[Punching Bag]

19 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

A year off and get paid?  How do you do a show like that and know that players only get an advance unless Billicheat will be signing paperwork saying it is medically necessary?

[Doc]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I do sincerely think some guys don’t want to put themselves through the crap of belichick during a pandemic if they don’t have to and if they don’t think they have a SB contender. Brady being gone lends to that as well, there isn’t much player driven leadership There anymore 

 

I wonder if all these Cheaters players would have opted-out if Tommy were still there.  I guess we'll never know.

[mramefa]

The patriots are doing something fundamentally different in their approach. Let me support that with some statistics.

 

Right now there are 25 players opting out, 6 on the pats (source: https://www.nfl.com/news/list-of-nfl-players-to-opt-out-of-2020-season). If all players opt out with equal probability, there is a 1/32 chance each is on the pats. The total number of players on the pats opting out would be binomially distributed, with 25 coin flips, and success with probability 1/32 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution). The probability of 6 or more successes (i.e., players opting out) is p<1*10e-4 (https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx). Therefore having this many opt-outs on the pats randomly occurring would happen 1 in 10,000 times.

 

Also come on, it's the pats.

[GreggTX]

It may well get to the point that so many players opt out that it will end up looking like watching scabs during a players strike. We are now entering a 2nd and bigger wave of the pandemic when other nations have already shown how to fix the problem. If we don't start making smarter choices in Washington DC, this could drag on for a much longer time.

 

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

No chance in H E double hockey sticks any Coach/GM is going to urge guys not to play. 

No way tanking is even a thought for Belichick.  If anyone thinks that's the case , they're delusional . Why even sign Cam then? Why not start stidham?

 

I think it has some to do with D leader Devin Mccourty saying a cpl days ago , he sees guys acting wreckless and in the club and was pissed. I'm sure he was referring to teammates.  

 

They'll still go at least 6-10 -9-7 

 

And these Pats players have rings , $ and are mostly vets.

H E Double Hockey Sticks?  That was right out of Happy Days, and loved it.  I agree on the BB never would tank a season.  It’s a conspiracy theory thing.

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Belichick has no pride, caught cheating how many times now...

The old adage is if you're not cheating you're not trying

 

I think that's BS. but I don't think it strips away belichick's pride because he's a cheater

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

1 hour ago, nrenegar said:

The patriots are doing something fundamentally different in their approach. Let me support that with some statistics.

 

Right now there are 25 players opting out, 6 on the pats (source: https://www.nfl.com/news/list-of-nfl-players-to-opt-out-of-2020-season). If all players opt out with equal probability, there is a 1/32 chance each is on the pats. The total number of players on the pats opting out would be binomially distributed, with 25 coin flips, and success with probability 1/32 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution). The probability of 6 or more successes (i.e., players opting out) is p<1*10e-4 (https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx). Therefore having this many opt-outs on the pats randomly occurring would happen 1 in 10,000 times.

 

Also come on, it's the pats.

 

Sweet. Math. 

[Don Otreply]

53 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The old adage is if you're not cheating you're not trying

 

I think that's BS. but I don't think it strips away belichick's pride because he's a cheater

So your saying he is proud that he cheats?  just the sort of person for society to look up to...

 

How is a man to be proud of a reaching a goal that is tainted by repeatedly getting caught cheating to get to that goal? Where I come from we call that person untrustworthy scum, and do not speak positively of them. Others praise such behavior, birds of a feather as they say...

Edited July 29, 2020 by Don Otreply

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

So your saying he is proud that he cheats?  just the sort of person for society to look up to...

 

How is a man to be proud of a reaching a goal that is tainted by repeatedly getting caught cheating to get to that goal? Where I come from we call that person untrustworthy scum, and do not speak positively of them. Others praise such behavior, birds of a feather as they say...

He probably sleeps well at night knowing he's a cheater

 

He probably convinces himself that everybody does it, and he justifies it in his mind

[Don Otreply]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He probably sleeps well at night knowing he's a cheater

 

He probably convinces himself that everybody does it, and he justifies it in his mind

Still untrustworthy scum no matter how he may spin it. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

Opt out for Trevor. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Opt out for Trevor. 

They just are not nearly devoid of enough talent to get the first pick in the draft

[dorquemada]

36 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

They just are not nearly devoid of enough talent to get the first pick in the draft

 

Bellicheat has seen the future and knows exactly how many games he hast to lose in order to draft Trevor.  spoiler:  he falls a few spots in the draft so BB can win exactly 6 games and still get him

[Buffalo716]

Just now, dorquemada said:

 

Bellicheat has seen the future and knows exactly how many games he hast to lose in order to draft Trevor.  spoiler:  he falls a few spots in the draft so BB can win exactly 6 games and still get him

There is no chance Trevor Lawrence falls in the draft unless he gets hit by a truck

 

He would have been drafted in the first round out of high school, and would have been drafted over burrow this season

 

He's a lock

[dorquemada]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

There is no chance Trevor Lawrence falls in the draft unless he gets hit by a truck

 

He would have been drafted in the first round out of high school, and would have been drafted over burrow this season

 

He's a lock

 

See thats why you're twobillsdrive forums poster Buffalo716 and not Bill Belichick

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

See thats why you're twobillsdrive forums poster Buffalo716 and not Bill Belichick

Your right

 

I'm Steve belichick 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Buffalo716

[dorquemada]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Your right

 

I'm Steve belichick 

 

must be a hell of a thanksgiving table

[1ManRaid]

On 7/28/2020 at 8:01 AM, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

oh Boy.

 

Buffalo is that sort of town who has fans that will be triggered more by victory with no national respect than by losing.

For all the people essentially giving him a thumbs down for this, I literally just responded to someone in another thread who actually said he'd rather have no football at all this year rather than have the Bills win a Super Bowl in a season that "didn't count" to outsiders.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Opt out get what  $150k?

 

Belicheat will probably cut those w/o a real medical reason next season. 
 

it ain’t the patriot way 

[1ManRaid]

3 hours ago, nrenegar said:

The patriots are doing something fundamentally different in their approach. Let me support that with some statistics.

 

Right now there are 25 players opting out, 6 on the pats (source: https://www.nfl.com/news/list-of-nfl-players-to-opt-out-of-2020-season). If all players opt out with equal probability, there is a 1/32 chance each is on the pats. The total number of players on the pats opting out would be binomially distributed, with 25 coin flips, and success with probability 1/32 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution). The probability of 6 or more successes (i.e., players opting out) is p<1*10e-4 (https://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx). Therefore having this many opt-outs on the pats randomly occurring would happen 1 in 10,000 times.

 

Also come on, it's the pats.

And there's a bucket of unknown variables that could throw off your math, plus it's a small sample size.  Other players could just be waiting for whatever reason to announce they are sitting out, with the Pats players jumping the gun.

 

I'm betting on they are just tired of Belichick's crap.

[dorquemada]

5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

And there's a bucket of unknown variables that could throw off your math, plus it's a small sample size.  Other players could just be waiting for whatever reason to announce they are sitting out, with the Pats players jumping the gun.

 

I'm betting on they are just tired of Belichick's crap.

 

I'll get out over my skis here and suggest that a disproportionate percentage of NFL players are from the States that are just entering the worst of COVID right now, so these guys have family and friends in the middle of it, and might be legitimately concerned about getting sick and/or bringing the 'vid back to gramma in Alabama.  I'm in USNY like a lot of you, and we're certainly past the peak now, and certainly over the shock of it.  I can tell you, i have family in the deep south and they spent a lot of time mocking New York over this, not so much now

[mramefa]

1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

And there's a bucket of unknown variables that could throw off your math, plus it's a small sample size.  Other players could just be waiting for whatever reason to announce they are sitting out, with the Pats players jumping the gun.

 

I'm betting on they are just tired of Belichick's crap.

Fair point. The math just shows it’s improbable that the high density of patriots players opting out is totally random (assuming players make decisions independently of each other).

 

A player revolt against Belichick is another plausible explanation.

[Punching Bag]

On 7/29/2020 at 1:07 PM, GreggTX said:

It may well get to the point that so many players opt out that it will end up looking like watching scabs during a players strike. We are now entering a 2nd and bigger wave of the pandemic when other nations have already shown how to fix the problem. If we don't start making smarter choices in Washington DC, this could drag on for a much longer time.

 

 

Get Trump to resign replacing him with the Hoodie.

21 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

And there's a bucket of unknown variables that could throw off your math, plus it's a small sample size.  Other players could just be waiting for whatever reason to announce they are sitting out, with the Pats players jumping the gun.

 

I'm betting on they are just tired of Belichick's crap.

 

Possible they think due to his age he is likely to get COVID-19 and not be able to coach following year.

[JerseyBills]

On 7/29/2020 at 1:11 PM, machine gun kelly said:

H E Double Hockey Sticks?  That was right out of Happy Days, and loved it.  I agree on the BB never would tank a season.  It’s a conspiracy theory thing.

Lol. I remember Happy Days a bit but it's a bit before my time. Was born in 89. I heard the reference before,  never knew it came from that show. 

Ya I think it's Pats fans trying to feel better about themselves lol. Claiming they have a master plan to get Lawrence.  Give me a break!

 

On that thought. What ifbtheif is no season, how would the 21 draft work as far as the order??? ?Not fair to use records from this past year. 

Let's hope that we have a season and don't  need to figure that out.

[Locomark]

On 7/28/2020 at 4:30 PM, OZBILLS said:

I have no confidence in a full season. Not without a bubble. Even then it's unfeasible 

Agreed this will have some cancelled games no matter what. So it all comes down to which ones. All I know is I want KC. I want them to lose to us...bad. 

[YoloinOhio]

7th Pat to opt out 

[aceman_16]

28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

7th Pat to opt out 

My heart breaks......

 

 

 

 

NOT!

[SCBills]

We all understand Star opting out but are frustrated by the contract tolling and salary cap impact on the future.  
 

I have to imagine with 7 players doing so for New England, 3 of them being starters, that New England’s future cap has to be looking all jacked up, no?

[Doc]

Cam might want to opt out as well.

[Ghost_002!]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

We all understand Star opting out but are frustrated by the contract tolling and salary cap impact on the future.  
 

I have to imagine with 7 players doing so for New England, 3 of them being starters, that New England’s future cap has to be looking all jacked up, no?

 

This actually helps their cap space this year with not having to pay these players this year

 

Plus money they got back for settling w AB and Aaron Hernandez estate and next year their cap was going to look much better regardless...

 

Hightower was a lost. Chung to a degree all these other players were not a factor like that. Even Cannon since BB has used plug and play lineman before and still got results. 

Edited August 1, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[ColoradoBills]

26 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

This actually helps their cap space this year with not having to pay these players this year

 

Plus money they got back for settling w AB and Aaron Hernandez estate and next year their cap was going to look much better regardless...

 

Hightower was a lost. Chung to a degree all these other players were not a factor like that. Even Cannon since BB has used plug and play lineman before and still got results. 

 

Having Brady at QB and arguably the best OL coach in football got those linemen to perform and they are both gone this year.

[Punching Bag]

Marshall Newhouse is still available.

[dogbyte]

BB went to the players and asked them to opt if they wanted to early. Since the cab is not signed there is not opt out date yet.

Many players are just waiting to see what is going to happen. I think BB made a good decision to get the players that wanted to opt out to announce early so no time was wasted in the so called training period.

[Ghost_002!]

8 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Having Brady at QB and arguably the best OL coach in football got those linemen to perform and they are both gone this year.

 

They went 11-5 

 

Then 3-1 without brady

 

Their last SB was won on defense. Brady and the offense was nonexistent 

 

Plus they have won a couple SBs without Dante Scarnecchia(their former oline coach) before.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2020 by Ghost_002!

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, dogbyte said:

BB went to the players and asked them to opt if they wanted to early. Since the cab is not signed there is not opt out date yet.

Many players are just waiting to see what is going to happen. I think BB made a good decision to get the players that wanted to opt out to announce early so no time was wasted in the so called training period.

 

Welcome. WEO needs a flunky.