https://www.twitch.tv/bleacher_report/ GOATSIM tournament--ITS SO MUCH FUN

[ThurmasThoman]

Bleacher Report is doing a madden sim: the teams are made up of each teams best player of all time at every position.

 

All 32 teams in a tournament.

Carolina beat Atlanta,

and 

Washington just beat Dallas.

Miami vs. New England right now, lol

Marino v Brady.

 

Bills v the Jets tomorrow(?) I think

 

I know it sounds stupid but guess what?

ITS AWESOME!

 

GO PHINS!!!

 

 

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

7 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

Bleacher Report is doing a madden sim: the teams are made up of each teams best player of all time at every position.

 

All 32 teams in a tournament.

Carolina beat Atlanta,

and 

Washington just beat Dallas.

Miami vs. New England right now, lol

Marino v Brady.

 

Bills v the Jets tomorrow(?) I think

 

I know it sounds stupid but guess what?

ITS AWESOME!

 

GO PHINS!!!

 

 

 

How many yards and TDs did McCaffrey have?

[Mr. WEO]

How is "Vick throwing to Julio" GOAT-like?

[section122]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

How is "Vick throwing to Julio" GOAT-like?

Was just thinking about that.  In madden Vick is a monster so I get it.  If you were going best qb for atl I think Matt Ryan takes that crown.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, section122 said:

Was just thinking about that.  In madden Vick is a monster so I get it.  If you were going best qb for atl I think Matt Ryan takes that crown.

 

Yeah, he wasn't close to the best QB that Falcons ever had.  Weird.

 

[Orlando Tim]

26 minutes ago, section122 said:

Was just thinking about that.  In madden Vick is a monster so I get it.  If you were going best qb for atl I think Matt Ryan takes that crown.

If you are going by single year then Vick is the ATL King. For Buffalo the surprise guy might Bryce Paup because that one year he was awesome.

[MJS]

Bills vs Jets shouldn't be that big of a contest. Their best QB is a guy who threw more interceptions than TD's and lost more games than he won.

1 hour ago, section122 said:

Was just thinking about that.  In madden Vick is a monster so I get it.  If you were going best qb for atl I think Matt Ryan takes that crown.

Vick is like the best player in Madden history, but are they basing it on Madden ratings and not real life? How do they include guys from before Madden was a thing?

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Yeah, he wasn't close to the best QB that Falcons ever had.  Weird.

 

He surely was in Madden

37 minutes ago, MJS said:

Bills vs Jets shouldn't be that big of a contest. Their best QB is a guy who threw more interceptions than TD's and lost more games than he won.

Vick is like the best player in Madden history, but are they basing it on Madden ratings and not real life? How do they include guys from before Madden was a thing?

It really doesn’t matter.....does it?

 

edit:  this is something to pass time during a quarantine.  It’s not to be taken so seriously.  Very soon, no one will remember this

Edited March 31, 2020 by NewEra

[MJS]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He surely was in Madden

It really doesn’t matter.....does it?

 

edit:  this is something to pass time during a quarantine.  It’s not to be taken so seriously.  Very soon, no one will remember this

Who's taking it seriously?

[JerseyBills]

Bills are going to be a very fun team to play with. Several players should get bumps in ratings. Diggs is a 93 now. 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

Who's taking it seriously?

 

2 hours ago, MJS said:

Bills vs Jets shouldn't be that big of a contest. Their best QB is a guy who threw more interceptions than TD's and lost more games than he won.

Vick is like the best player in Madden history, but are they basing it on Madden ratings and not real life? How do they include guys from before Madden was a thing?

Asking this question is serious enough.  I don’t think they even have the answer for this.   How do they include guys from before madden was a thing?  They just put them on the teams and don’t think twice about it.  
 

its madden. Vick is the QB for the all time falcons team.  Stipulations and rules need not apply 

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

Asking this question is serious enough.  I don’t think they even have the answer for this.   How do they include guys from before madden was a thing?  They just put them on the teams and don’t think twice about it.  
 

its madden. Vick is the QB for the all time falcons team.  Stipulations and rules need not apply 

I wasn't criticizing their methodology, I was asking actual questions because I was curious and interested. I wondered if someone who knew more about what they are doing knew the answers.

[ThurmasThoman]

Here's how rosters were constructed:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883401-the-br-goat-sim-ranking-the-top-10-contenders#slide2

7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Bills are going to be a very fun team to play with. Several players should get bumps in ratings. Diggs is a 93 now. 

 

If we beat the jets, its going to be Bills v Pats in round 2.

 

Brady v Kelly

And here are the rosters and the schedule:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883549-br-goat-sim-introducing-the-all-time-madden-rosters#slide2

 

"All of the games games will be simulated on Bleacher Report's Twitch channel over the course of two weeks from March 30-April 13. The Round of 32 will run for four days from March 30-April 2 with four games simulated each night from 7-11 p.m. ET. 

The Round of 16 will take place from April 3-6, with two games simulated each night from 8-10 p.m. ET. The Round of 8 will run from April 7-8, with two games simulated per night from 8-10 p.m. ET. The Final Four will be a two-day event on April 9-10 featuring one game simulated each night starting at 8 p.m. ET. 

On April 13, the final two teams will battle for supremacy in the championship game beginning at 8 p.m. ET."

Edited March 31, 2020 by JohnnyGold

[DJB]

25 minutes ago, JohnnyGold said:

Here's how rosters were constructed:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883401-the-br-goat-sim-ranking-the-top-10-contenders#slide2

 

If we beat the jets, its going to be Bills v Pats in round 2.

 

Brady v Kelly

And here are the rosters and the schedule:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883549-br-goat-sim-introducing-the-all-time-madden-rosters#slide2

 

"All of the games games will be simulated on Bleacher Report's Twitch channel over the course of two weeks from March 30-April 13. The Round of 32 will run for four days from March 30-April 2 with four games simulated each night from 7-11 p.m. ET. 

The Round of 16 will take place from April 3-6, with two games simulated each night from 8-10 p.m. ET. The Round of 8 will run from April 7-8, with two games simulated per night from 8-10 p.m. ET. The Final Four will be a two-day event on April 9-10 featuring one game simulated each night starting at 8 p.m. ET. 

On April 13, the final two teams will battle for supremacy in the championship game beginning at 8 p.m. ET."

 

Charles Clay is our best TE ever? He's ranked 84. 

[stevewin]

Would prob pick Cribbs over McGahee, but I'm sure there's a bias towards players who played when the game existed (and player already instantiated in game)

[Mr. K]

37 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

Charles Clay is our best TE ever? He's ranked 84. 

 

I started thinking of all of the TE's over the years and man it would be nice to have Knox develop into a stud.

[hondo in seattle]

I'm too old for Madden but this does seem like a fun thing to follow for those staying at home.

 

But, man, I have a lot of problems with the player ratings.  

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, Mr. K said:

 

I started thinking of all of the TE's over the years and man it would be nice to have Knox develop into a stud.

I know. 

He definitely has flashed the potential. We'll see .

 

Hope Kroft can do anything.  I don't remember him catching a ball besides the Pitt game (huge catch nonetheless)

[JerseyBills]

https://t.co/tHNoxJlY18

 

Not too shabby ????

[MJS]

Here's the Bills roster they are using. I think there's some questionable inclusions (Willis McGahee!?):

 

Jim Kelly, QB (91 OVR)

OJ Simpson, RB (97 OVR)

Thurman Thomas, RB (94 OVR)

Willis McGahee, RB (86 OVR)

Andre Reed, WR (92 OVR)

Eric Moulds, WR (87 OVR)

Lee Evans, WR (86 OVR)

Elbert Dubenion, WR (85 OVR)

Charles Clay, TE (84 OVR)

Joe DeLamielleure, OL (91 OVR)

Kent Hull, OL (90 OVR)

Ruben Brown, OL (89 OVR)

Will Wolford, OL (88 OVR)

Howard Ballard, OL (87 OVR)

Bruce Smith, DL (98 OVR)

Pat Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Kyle Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Jerry Hughes, DL (83 OVR)

Takeo Spikes, LB (89 OVR)

Cornelius Bennett, LB (87 OVR)

Sam Cowart, LB (82 OVR)

Butch Byrd, CB (92 OVR)

Nate Clements, CB (87 OVR)

Tre'Davious White, CB (85 OVR)

Micah Hyde, FS (86 OVR)

Jordan Poyer, SS (80 OVR)

 

Players I particularly don't think belong include: Willis McGahee, Lee Evans, Sam Cowart, and Jerry Hughes. Some notable players not included, in my opinion (not sure how they would get Madden ratings for some of these, but they have OJ somehow): Tom Sestak, Fred Smerlas, Mike Stratton, Nate Odomes, Billy Shaw. Even Mario Williams should be in over Jerry Hughes. Hughes has never had double digit sacks.

[C.Biscuit97]

16 hours ago, section122 said:

Was just thinking about that.  In madden Vick is a monster so I get it.  If you were going best qb for atl I think Matt Ryan takes that crown.

Yeah, I’m real life, it should be Ryan.  But Mike Vick in madden 2004 was one of the greatest video game players ever.  No big deal but I once put up a 4,000 yard passing and 2,000 yard rushing season with Vick and 60 tds.  Again, no big deal!!!

 

and an all time Bills has to be one of the best rosters.  But they need to get that scrub Willis off.  So many better options than *****.

[Orlando Tim]

I do not understand how they ranked players- is it there best year or the best career? Because Willis does not belong either way and Bryce Paup belongs if it is by one year. Also Odomes is better than Clements and White is already the best DB we ever had.

[MJS]

6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yeah, I’m real life, it should be Ryan.  But Mike Vick in madden 2004 was one of the greatest video game players ever.  No big deal but I once put up a 4,000 yard passing and 2,000 yard rushing season with Vick and 60 tds.  Again, no big deal!!!

 

and an all time Bills has to be one of the best rosters.  But they need to get that scrub Willis off.  So many better options than *****.

It's one of the worst, actually, according to how they did it. But they made some questionable decisions. Like, is Poyer really one of our best safeties ever? Doubtful. I like Poyer, but he isn't one of our best DB's ever. Maybe Tony Greene from the 70's? He's 2nd in career INT's for the Bills.

 

Also thought about Phil Hansen, but the defensive line, especially the interior, is pretty crowded for the Bills. Lots of great players.

8 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I do not understand how they ranked players- is it there best year or the best career? Because Willis does not belong either way and Bryce Paup belongs if it is by one year. Also Odomes is better than Clements and White is already the best DB we ever had.

I'd say Butch Byrd is the best, but it is tough to compare eras. But they included Tre White on the roster.

 

McGahee is way out of left field, if you ask me. He has no business being on there. Should have been Cookie Gilchrist or even Fred Jackson over him. Did they put James Lofton on the Packers? He would be the natural choice instead of Lee Evans.

[Buffalo716]

11 minutes ago, MJS said:

It's one of the worst, actually, according to how they did it. But they made some questionable decisions. Like, is Poyer really one of our best safeties ever? Doubtful. I like Poyer, but he isn't one of our best DB's ever. Maybe Tony Greene from the 70's? He's 2nd in career INT's for the Bills.

 

Also thought about Phil Hansen, but the defensive line, especially the interior, is pretty crowded for the Bills. Lots of great players.

I'd say Butch Byrd is the best, but it is tough to compare eras. But they included Tre White on the roster.

 

McGahee is way out of left field, if you ask me. He has no business being on there. Should have been Cookie Gilchrist or even Fred Jackson over him. Did they put James Lofton on the Packers? He would be the natural choice instead of Lee Evans.

Lee Evans is the 3rd all time leading reciever in Bills history

 

He was really good with piss poor QBs

Edited March 31, 2020 by Buffalo716

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

34 minutes ago, MJS said:

Here's the Bills roster they are using. I think there's some questionable inclusions (Willis McGahee!?):

 

Jim Kelly, QB (91 OVR)

OJ Simpson, RB (97 OVR)

Thurman Thomas, RB (94 OVR)

Willis McGahee, RB (86 OVR)

Andre Reed, WR (92 OVR)

Eric Moulds, WR (87 OVR)

Lee Evans, WR (86 OVR)

Elbert Dubenion, WR (85 OVR)

Charles Clay, TE (84 OVR)

Joe DeLamielleure, OL (91 OVR)

Kent Hull, OL (90 OVR)

Ruben Brown, OL (89 OVR)

Will Wolford, OL (88 OVR)

Howard Ballard, OL (87 OVR)

Bruce Smith, DL (98 OVR)

Pat Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Kyle Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Jerry Hughes, DL (83 OVR)

Takeo Spikes, LB (89 OVR)

Cornelius Bennett, LB (87 OVR)

Sam Cowart, LB (82 OVR)

Butch Byrd, CB (92 OVR)

Nate Clements, CB (87 OVR)

Tre'Davious White, CB (85 OVR)

Micah Hyde, FS (86 OVR)

Jordan Poyer, SS (80 OVR)

 

Players I particularly don't think belong include: Willis McGahee, Lee Evans, Sam Cowart, and Jerry Hughes. Some notable players not included, in my opinion (not sure how they would get Madden ratings for some of these, but they have OJ somehow): Tom Sestak, Fred Smerlas, Mike Stratton, Nate Odomes, Billy Shaw. Even Mario Williams should be in over Jerry Hughes. Hughes has never had double digit sacks.

 

Evans is 3rd all time in catches and yards - maybe stevie over him i guess?  Cowart over Talley is strange.  Gimme Fred Jackson over McGahee.  

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Lee Evans is the 3rd all time leading reciever in Bills history

 

He was really good with piss poor QBs

I liked Lee Evans. I just don't think he is a top 4 WR in franchise history. Nothing against him, though. He was one of those drought era highlights.

1 minute ago, dneveu said:

 

Evans is 3rd all time in catches and yards - maybe stevie over him i guess?  Cowart over Talley is strange.  Gimme Fred Jackson over McGahee.  

Hmm, also TD's. Ok, I can get behind that. I admit I didn't realize he was so high up the records for the Bills.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, MJS said:

I liked Lee Evans. I just don't think he is a top 4 WR in franchise history. Nothing against him, though. He was one of those drought era highlights.

There are lots of talented WRs but statistically he is right there

 

Love they put in dubenion

[CDogg20]

7 hours ago, MJS said:

Here's the Bills roster they are using. I think there's some questionable inclusions (Willis McGahee!?):

 

Jim Kelly, QB (91 OVR)

OJ Simpson, RB (97 OVR)

Thurman Thomas, RB (94 OVR)

Willis McGahee, RB (86 OVR)

Andre Reed, WR (92 OVR)

Eric Moulds, WR (87 OVR)

Lee Evans, WR (86 OVR)

Elbert Dubenion, WR (85 OVR)

Charles Clay, TE (84 OVR)

Joe DeLamielleure, OL (91 OVR)

Kent Hull, OL (90 OVR)

Ruben Brown, OL (89 OVR)

Will Wolford, OL (88 OVR)

Howard Ballard, OL (87 OVR)

Bruce Smith, DL (98 OVR)

Pat Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Kyle Williams, DL (89 OVR)

Jerry Hughes, DL (83 OVR)

Takeo Spikes, LB (89 OVR)

Cornelius Bennett, LB (87 OVR)

Sam Cowart, LB (82 OVR)

Butch Byrd, CB (92 OVR)

Nate Clements, CB (87 OVR)

Tre'Davious White, CB (85 OVR)

Micah Hyde, FS (86 OVR)

Jordan Poyer, SS (80 OVR)

 

Players I particularly don't think belong include: Willis McGahee, Lee Evans, Sam Cowart, and Jerry Hughes. Some notable players not included, in my opinion (not sure how they would get Madden ratings for some of these, but they have OJ somehow): Tom Sestak, Fred Smerlas, Mike Stratton, Nate Odomes, Billy Shaw. Even Mario Williams should be in over Jerry Hughes. Hughes has never had double digit sacks.

I totally agree with you. 
 

Troy Vincent, Lawyer Milloy, Aaron Schobel, Antione Winfield, Fred Jackson, London Fletcher, Daryl Talley

Edited April 1, 2020 by CDogg20

[Buffalo86]

22 hours ago, MJS said:

Bills vs Jets shouldn't be that big of a contest. Their best QB is a guy who threw more interceptions than TD's and lost more games than he won.

Vick is like the best player in Madden history, but are they basing it on Madden ratings and not real life? How do they include guys from before Madden was a thing?

 

Madden has been including all-time players/teams for decades.  I doubt their ratings on Dick Butkus and Deacon Jones have changed very much over time.  

Also, I vote Henry Jones for Bills' starting SS.

[Sherlock Holmes]

32 minutes ago, CDogg20 said:

I totally agree with you. 
 

Troy Vincent, Lawyer Milloy, Aaron Schobel, Antione Winfield, Fred Jackson, London Fletcher, Daryl Talley

Aaron Schobel being left out is just a travesty

[Freddie's Dead]

18 hours ago, DJB said:

 

Charles Clay is our best TE ever? He's ranked 84. 

 

Brutal.  Should be Seymour, McKellar, or Metzelaars.  Jay Riemersma was better than Clay.

[Freddie's Dead]

11 hours ago, dneveu said:

 Gimme Fred Jackson over McGahee. 

 

*****in' A Bubba, FredEx all day.  Willis "It was 4th down?" McGahee has no business on this list.  If not for Maybin, the worst 1st round pick in Bills history.

[purple haze]

13 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 Also Odomes is better than Clements and White is already the best DB we ever had.

Odomes was good; one of my favorites. Clements was also good though.  I'd probably take Winfield over both on this list though.

 

Tre is on his way, but he's not the best DB the Bills ever had... yet.

[Virgil]

On 3/30/2020 at 9:37 PM, Mr. WEO said:

How is "Vick throwing to Julio" GOAT-like?

According to EA Madden, Vick is the greatest QB to ever grace the field 

[JinxedBill]

It’s funny cuz the devs making the madden games and the ratings are so far removed from the reality of football.  They are more focused on the fantasy side.  This is fun but madden ratings are based solely on production if the player is a unknown commodity. 

 

I used to be a big fan of madden until they stopped caring about the franchise and started focusing on $$$$ with MUT.

 

But it’s EA so what do you expect?

 

Thanks for sharing.  Nice distraction nonetheless.  

Edited April 1, 2020 by JinxedBill

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

6 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

*****in' A Bubba, FredEx all day.  Willis "It was 4th down?" McGahee has no business on this list.  If not for Maybin, the worst 1st round pick in Bills history.

 

That 03 team did not have the luxury of drafting a player who wouldn't play a down in 03.  A really solid unit of defenders, and an offense that consisted of Henry and Moulds.  

 

Check out this box score: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200309210mia.htm

Edited April 1, 2020 by dneveu

[MJS]

Well, I was bored so I decided to do this myself. Found a better legends roster than the one they are using. Each team had great depth of legends (with a couple head scratchers). I edited the roster to bring some of the players more in line with the overall numbers that Bleacher Report used, but only when it was a big glaring difference. I simmed each matchup five times and took the best of five:

 

Round 1:

 

Bengals over Steelers was a big surprise for me. So was Redskins over Cowboys and Eagles over Giants... oh, and Bucs over Saints. Big surprises in the NFC.

 

Round 2:

 

Bills vs Patriots was super close. Browns and Broncos were looking unstoppable in the AFC. Rams killed the 49ers for some reason... Vikings looked really strong.

 

Round 3:

 

Bills handled the Broncos pretty well. OJ and Bruce are monsters. OJ has been averaging like 160 yards a game. Browns and Colts were back and forth, but the Browns pulled it out. Jim Brown is also a monster. Vikings killed the Bucs. Not sure how the Bucs made it this far. Kurt Warner, despite a lower overall rating than many QB's, is dominating.

 

Round 4:

 

As a Bills fan I was delighted to see my team do so well and get so far in this tournament. Nobody can seem to stop OJ. He averaged 180 yards against the Browns. The Rams and Vikings went back and forth, but Kurt Warner continued his dominance.

 

Championship:

 

The Rams beat the Bills four out of five times. Sad.

 

So there you have it. The Rams are apparently the best team of all time, according to fake Madden players and games.

[Buffalo86]

9 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

*****in' A Bubba, FredEx all day.  Willis "It was 4th down?" McGahee has no business on this list.  If not for Maybin, the worst 1st round pick in Bills history.

 

I'd say he was a better first-round pick than Mike Williams, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, John McCargo, Donte Whitner, Leodis McKelvin, CJ Spiller, EJ Manuel, and Sammy Watkins.  I know we're supposed to hate McGahee because he ripped on Applebee's, but let's be fair:  he won Comeback Player of the Year in '04 & was a borderline stud for the 3 years we got out of him.  You can say we didn't need him because we had Travis Henry, but it's possible that OBD had misgivings about giving a new contract to a guy who had 11 kids with 10 women & would later serve time for running a cocaine ring.  

 

[Freddie's Dead]

1 hour ago, Buffalo86 said:

 

I'd say he was a better first-round pick than Mike Williams, Erik Flowers, JP Losman, John McCargo, Donte Whitner, Leodis McKelvin, CJ Spiller, EJ Manuel, and Sammy Watkins.  I know we're supposed to hate McGahee because he ripped on Applebee's, but let's be fair:  he won Comeback Player of the Year in '04 & was a borderline stud for the 3 years we got out of him.  You can say we didn't need him because we had Travis Henry, but it's possible that OBD had misgivings about giving a new contract to a guy who had 11 kids with 10 women & would later serve time for running a cocaine ring.  

 

 

Except he didn't play for a whole year.  Yes, he had two 1000-yard seasons before he ran himself out of town.  But he never had any fire or guts.  Didn't even know it was 4th down in NE, one of the many games we had them beat and let them off the hook.  He was a POS.

[Buffalo86]

28 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Except he didn't play for a whole year.  Yes, he had two 1000-yard seasons before he ran himself out of town.  But he never had any fire or guts.  Didn't even know it was 4th down in NE, one of the many games we had them beat and let them off the hook.  He was a POS.

 

My bad.  I mistakenly thought you were letting personal feelings about McGahee cloud your memory of his career.