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Burrow - Bengals have top pick, but I have leverage

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5 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I remember Tebow being an awesome college QB.  Don't even the best SEC QBs usually not do very well in the NFL?

and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. 

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7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. 

 

Perhaps you're not aware of how much this topic pisses me off.  And if you were already aware, then you're a bad person.

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13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

That's not a guarantee. He isn't a generational prospect, not even close

He was the oldest person on the football field every single time he stepped on it last year.. it took him 5 years to put it together

He is nothing like an Andrew Luck prospect

 

Interesting.  Son of a NFL player and long-time college DC.  I bet he’s freakin’ “Catnip for Coaches” on the whiteboard and the film room.

 

As a draftee, he’s the same age as Allen is having played in his 2nd NFL season.  3 years at Ohio State, 2 years at LSU.

 

Take a gander at his Wiki. I’m sure he’s a great kid and a great prospect, but that thing HAD to have been written by professional publicists.  😂

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10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that.

 

These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage.

 

The next QB picked was Jim Kelly. That 1983 draft also had Todd Blackledge, Tony Eason, and Dan Marino. It was in all the papers, you can look it up. 😉 

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Guess it’s a lock that they are taking him? Billy Price just said on Columbus radio that it’s great playing with Sam Hubbard, mike Jordan, and soon Joey Burrow. He was completely serious. I mean everyone is expecting it but they haven’t announced it. 

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True or not, I don't see where this kid has much leverage.  What's he going to do, sit a year if the Bengals draft him?  He's already an older college guy, that extra year isn't going to help.  Then what?  He comes out in the draft with Trevor Lawrence, and Burrow is not guaranteed of getting picked first anymore?  

 

 

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16 hours ago, Gugny said:

I'm no college football fan, but it seems to me this kid only had one solid year as a starter.

 

But what a year!  Simply put Joe Burrow had the single greatest season at QB in the 150 year history of college football.  And it's not close. 

 

*  60 TD passes and only 6 INT's

 

*  Over 6,000 total yards.

 

*  SEC title, College Football Championship and Heisman trophy winner.

 

And Burrow accomplished this playing arguably the toughest schedule in college football history.  His biggest games also came against the best competition in the most important games.

 

And for the record Burrow had a solid season in 2018 which was his first as a starting QB.  In fact check out his games from late in that season, particularly the New Years Day Bowl game against #6 CFU (4 TD passes) and you'll see Burrow was flashing signs of what was to come in 2019. 

 

Burrow did not have a bad game in 2019 - that's 15 games. In fact Burrow did not have a bad half this past season. 

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From 5th round pick to positioning himself at the top of the 1st, in one year. And he never attended a class at LSU (online graduate courses). That doesn't seem right to me (definition of student-athlete?). 

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18 minutes ago, par73 said:

From 5th round pick to positioning himself at the top of the 1st, in one year. And he never attended a class at LSU (online graduate courses). That doesn't seem right to me (definition of student-athlete?). 

 

 

It's stupid that you have to graduate to transfer and be immediately available.  The idea was that if you were a good student, and graduated early or whatever, you could pursue a graduate degree in the field of study where it might make more sense from an educational perspective.  Not - i need to transfer to play football and attend minimal classes to meet NCAA requirements.  

 

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He only has the leverage the Bengals want to give him, otherwise he has no leverage.

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12 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

 

It's stupid that you have to graduate to transfer and be immediately available.  The idea was that if you were a good student, and graduated early or whatever, you could pursue a graduate degree in the field of study where it might make more sense from an educational perspective.  Not - i need to transfer to play football and attend minimal classes to meet NCAA requirements.  

 

This archaic rule is finally going away.D1 student-athletes in all sports could have the opportunity to compete immediately after transferring one time if a proposed change to waiver guidelines is adopted by the NCAA  this spring.

 

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-transfer-waiver-working-group-seek-feedback-waiver-expansion

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16 hours ago, Gugny said:

I'm no college football fan, but it seems to me this kid only had one solid year as a starter.

Solid or unbelievable?  Cam won the national championship one year and was a top pick of the Panthers

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

This archaic rule is finally going away.D1 student-athletes in all sports could have the opportunity to compete immediately after transferring one time if a proposed change to waiver guidelines is adopted by the NCAA  this spring.

 

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-transfer-waiver-working-group-seek-feedback-waiver-expansion

 

Good - i mean good for burrow graduating in 3 years etc.  But if his goal is to play professional football, why does the NCAA hold him back?  There's no pathway to the NFL that doesn't go through the NCAA so... figure it out.

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8 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

seems 2 of the 3 did well thus far.  


I wasn’t saying otherwise 

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17 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

What leverage?  There's no "Philip Rivers" going in the top 4 with him....

If Tua checks out medically then there will be a few who make the argument he should be the first pick.  Burrow does have some leverage in the sense that if he comes out before the draft and says he'll play for any team but the Bengals because they have a horrible owner.  You could see an Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers type trade happen then between the Bengals and whatever team picks Tua. 

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

If Tua checks out medically then there will be a few who make the argument he should be the first pick.  Burrow does have some leverage in the sense that if he comes out before the draft and says he'll play for any team but the Bengals because they have a horrible owner.  You could see an Eli Manning/Phillip Rivers type trade happen then between the Bengals and whatever team picks Tua. 

 

You would be assuming that the Bengals would want Tua that high and that another team would pick him that high.  This isn't a Manning/Rivers scenario.  Burrow's dad isn't Archie Manning either--in fact his dad said Burrow would be happy to play for the Bengals and his mom is still saying she doesn't "know where this is coming from" that he doesn't.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

You would be assuming that the Bengals would want Tua that high and that another team would pick him that high.  This isn't a Manning/Rivers scenario.  Burrow's dad isn't Archie Manning either--in fact his dad said Burrow would be happy to play for the Bengals and his mom is still saying she doesn't "know where this is coming from" that he doesn't.

That's why I used the declaimers "if he checks out medically" and "could."  We'll get a better picture after the pro day and combine.

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13 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that.

 

These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage.


This has totally confused me. I’m sure you’re making a point, but I’m missing it. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

That's why I used the declaimers "if he checks out medically" and "could."  We'll get a better picture after the pro day and combine.

 

No one is not going to clear him--by all account he's doing great.  But no one is hitting him either, nor will they be any time soon.

14 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that.

 

These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage.

 

#epicfailpost lol

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5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

and now he is one of your best minor leaguers. 

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Leverage.  LOL!  Go sit out a year playing minor league ball and/or watching Trevor Lawrence take your #1 overall in 2021.

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

Leverage.  LOL!  Go sit out a year playing minor league ball and/or watching Trevor Lawrence take your #1 overall in 2021.

He won’t sit out. But he’s been a lot better than Lawrence. 

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