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12 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:


I don’t know why that would be great. It would basically being age beating him, not us. Let’s face it— he owned us for 20 years. Even if we win now, it’s because he becomes too old. I’d rather not face the guy, because there is also a chance he puts up a Peyton Manning-like 2013 season if surrounded by the proper talent. 

 

I get your point, I don't think it would be great or take away the 20 years of dominance. 

 

But your second point about Peyton kind of argues against your first. If you'd rather not face him then beating him is still accomplishing something. 

 

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56 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB.  Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game.

Get bent

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I think it was always a question of whether he would be in NE, not whether he would retire. 

 

Despite all the talk and speculation in the media, is guess there is close to 0 chance he plays somewhere else. 

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I don’t think teams are afraid of Brady anymore. The Patriots************** will go as far as their defense takes them.

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I have no love for the Patriots or Brady, but his statement is a pretty accurate description of the culture McDermott is cultivating in Buffalo.  I do think it's going to become harder for Belichick (and Brady if he stays) to continue the level of success of the Patriots over the past 2 decades.  I hope Buffalo is ready to step in the gap.

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1 hour ago, Steptide said:

Kinda hope he stays with the Patriots. I want to win the division next year with him in it 

Totally agree. His record against the Bills is going to be laughable regardless but hopefully it can still end on a positive note for Buffalo. Not the case right now.

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Good for him.  Best QB ever and it's not even up for debate.  My only hope for him is that he ends his career healthy.   I hope he sucks to the point of embarrassing himself and his entire family ... but I hope he can do that and literally walk away from the game on his terms.

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Love the quote from Teddy Roosevelt... and like Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders charging up San Juan Hill, the Patriots will suffer many casualties when they have to play the Bills twice next year!

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44 minutes ago, TuelTime said:

If I was the GM of the Patriots, I would trade a first rounder (or whatever it takes) for Teddy Bridgewater and ask Brady if he wants to be a backup.

Why? Bridgewater is a FA just sign him.

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1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

 

Brady was already a shell of himself this year. We saw how that goes, Pats just arent that good with him at QB offensively. Didn't translate to wins for us against you guys for a few reasons. But I wont mind if he's playing for the Pats again next season, which I fully expect. He will never be the reason you guys beat us again, I am confident of that. 

Mid way 2018 Brady started to decline and never regained his form. Arm strength diminished, accuracy wasn’t as precise, and he does not slide around the pocket like he once did. Soon his mind will not be as crisp either. 

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Age catches up to everyone.  Eventually.

And even though it seemed like this day was never going to come, it appears to have finally reached Tom Brady.

 

Don't get me wrong.  He still has the ability to have good games occasionally.  But I don't think he's good enough to carry an offense by himself anymore, which is something he's been able to do for 15-20 years now.  Outside of Randy Moss (for two seasons) and Rob Gronkowski (who was always hurt), Brady hasn't ever been surrounded with Pro-Bowl talent.  His running backs have always been average/below average.  And I believe guys like Julian Edelman, Wes Welker, Deion Branch and Troy Brown were successful because of Brady.  Not the other way around.  

 

I think Bill Belichick realizes this.  Which is why he drafted a Wide Receiver in the first round for the first time ever, and went after Antonio Brown when he got cut.  He knows that Brady needs help now, and can't do it alone anymore.  They desperately need to surround Brady with more talent.  The problem is, the Patriots have a ton of free agents (around 20 with several starters, including Brady himself).  They also don't have a second round pick, and will need to make the tough decision whether to use their first rounder on a future QB.  

 

The smart decision for the Patriots would be to cut ties with Brady, and start rebuilding for the future.  But I don't know if their pride will allow this.  If they bring back Brady, they won't be able to afford to give him enough surrounding help.  And they will set-back their ability to build for the future.

 

 

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I hope he stays and the Pats go 8 - 8. He should of went out on top. 

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Sports media must be absolutely salivating at the potential to name him "comeback player of the year" next year if he has even an adequate season. 

 

Can't wait. 

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9 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Mid way 2018 Brady started to decline and never regained his form. Arm strength diminished, accuracy wasn’t as precise, and he does not slide around the pocket like he once did. Soon his mind will not be as crisp either. 

While I agree with this, have we ever had a qb who had 4,000 yards and 24 tds as Brady declined too this year?

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14 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Good for him.  Best QB ever and it's not even up for debate.  My only hope for him is that he ends his career healthy.   I hope he sucks to the point of embarrassing himself and his entire family ... but I hope he can do that and literally walk away from the game on his terms.

 

Yes it is.  When Matt Cassel can get 11 wins in NE .....      the debate is to be had

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I'd like to hear it from a more reliable source - one without reputation of cheating and lying.

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In 2018 with a healthy Gronk and a healthy Edelman and Hogan who played well for them the offense struggled so Bill Belichick went to a power running game and had Brady play game manager.

 

That continued this year. Because Brady is missing throws and for 2 straight years has done everything possible to avoid any contact in the pocket.

 

So 41 year old Brady became game manager but had 1 decent half in KC throwing, although he did throw the game ending INT that Ford was Offside for.

 

42 year old Brady became a less effective game manager that struggled more and started to pile up injuries.

 

So now 43 year old Brady is going to suddenly improve?

 

Last 2 playoff games:

 

13 points each time

0 TD

2 INT

 

Lady year he had Gronk and healthy Edelman

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

Be careful what you wish for.. Manning was a shell of his former self his last year... the Broncos still won the SB.  Just because someone has lost a step doesn’t mean when healthy he still isn’t better than most others in the game.

  I think that Brady will be in comparatively worse shape should he be on any roster opening day 2020.  Good nutrition, exercise, etc. can only do so much.  Most of us like to view ourselves as invincible and even I was surprised when I lost a step a year ago even though I am not much over 50.  

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Silly man doesn't know when to hang it up.

 

Hopefully he is even worse next year (likely), and he also better hope he doesn't suffer a serious injury ( I wouldn't care TBH).

 

Tie up cap space and overpay for previous accomplishments. I'm ok with that

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57 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:


but what about 2013? Manning had the best season ever for a QB as an old man Bronco. 

Yes, but anyone can see that Brady has begun to decline. Manning, at that point, hadn't.

 

Once the age decline starts, there is no stopping it, and certainly no reversing it.

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Lol what? Am I supposed to be intimidated by this? I hope to god the pats are arrogant enough to bring a 43 year old washed QB back on a 1 year, 30 mil year. DO IT! 

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1 hour ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

As a fan who's much older than Marsha, all I can say is; I wish I could tell you it is going to get better.  It's not!  The dumbas* should have retired while he was still on top.

Favre 2.0. It's hard to say goodbye. . . . 

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Sounds to me like this a preemptively telling the fans I want to be here but let’s see if the Patriots still believe in me, I.E. Pay me.

 

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he played for another team next year.

 

 

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I think that it is simply he just wants to keep playing and isn’t ready for the next stage of his life. Saying he has more to prove is just ... well, he has 6 SB rings. No, he really doesn’t have anything more to prove. If he leaves it will be like Michael Jordan going to the wizards. 

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He will still have the occasional big game, but overall he will be middle of the pack at best. 

 

This season he was:

 

7th in passing yards (that's pretty good but there was a sharp drop off in the last half of this season)

13th in TD passes

27th in completion %

19th in QB rating

 

Right now, he's outside the top 10 in every category except passing yards. 

 

Overall, he's about #15 or so in terms of starting QBs. That isn't terrible, but it's also nothing to fear. 

 

AND, unlike some of the younger QBs in that range, he is going to be 43 and isn't going to improve. 

 

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