Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm not convinced running the ball more is the answer given the personnel. They still can't run the ball when they need to run the ball in short yardage situations. The OL is simply not a great run blocking unit and that needs to change. Singletary was very good, but the majority of his yards tend to come in non obvious run situations. I think they'd end up with little to nothing if they just force fed him the rock. It doesn't always have to be a run. Lots of opportunities for shorter passes and screens, and we just didn't take advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 tried to do too much lol? He had 372 total yards, he was our leading passer, rusher and caught the only TD. I know he makes a few boneheaded decisions in most games, but being directly responsible of 372 of the 425 total yards, I don't know if I would've come out with that statement tonight. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Absolutely , classless remarks by Sean. The kid was buried by free rushers caused by bad O-line breakdowns. Same thing happened at the end of Baltimore and N E.games. Why lay this loss on Josh, when you're responsible for the horrendous defensive ineptitude that resulted in the conversion of that 3rd and 18. How about the missed tackles on Watson's touchdown, 2pt conversion and OT backbreaker. This kid put us in position to get into OT and then win the game , if Ford doesn't commit the PF. Everyone had a role in this debauchery. Sean ,try and remember, this kid is our future. Don't destroy his confidence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, BananaB said: What’s funny about this is when they talk about JJs would be interception. If that was Mahommes or Brady throwing it through some Joe Blows arms they would be talking about how they threaded the needle to complete a pass under pressure. Hahaha. It would only be an interception if JJ caught it but he didn’t. Just like they dont mention Watson threw a ball directly to Neal who dropped it at their own like 30 yard line, possibly a pick-6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 46 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: That's because you and Daboll put it all on him in the 4th quarter and overtime. Facts Go up 16-0 with 23 minutes left in the game Game stats Allen 46 passes Singletary 13 runs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm not convinced running the ball more is the answer given the personnel. They still can't run the ball when they need to run the ball in short yardage situations. The OL is simply not a great run blocking unit and that needs to change. Singletary was very good, but the majority of his yards tend to come in non obvious run situations. I think they'd end up with little to nothing if they just force fed him the rock. Know what is sad? The run blocking is miles better than the pass blocking. Think about that. Not saying a lot about the o-line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 49 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: That's because you and Daboll put it all on him in the 4th quarter and overtime. This^^^^. Singletary didn't have a single carry in OT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Know what is sad? The run blocking is miles better than the pass blocking. Think about that. Not saying a lot about the o-line. Agreed, and with that we still gave the ball to singletary 5 times less than Texans did with Hyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hey Sean, who called the 46 pass plays against the 24th rated run defense? Dumbol, maybe? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said: Absolutely , classless remarks by Sean. The kid was buried by free rushers caused by bad O-line breakdowns. Same thing happened at the end of Baltimore and N E.games. Why lay this loss on Josh, when you're responsible for the horrendous defensive ineptitude that resulted in the conversion of that 3rd and 18. How about the missed tackles on Watson's touchdown, 2pt conversion and OT backbreaker. This kid put us in position to get into OT and then win the game , if Ford doesn't commit the PF. Everyone had a role in this debauchery. Sean ,try and remember, this kid is our future. Don't destroy his confidence. Sometimes I wonder if Allen was the pick McDermott wanted. Easy to throw him under the bus than admit your vaunted defense blew a 16 point lead while you called a toothless second half on defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Was his comment a general one or just referring to the lateral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: This^^^^. Singletary didn't have a single carry in OT. Singeltary should have been Josh's best friend this season Even dumb O'Brien put Duke Jackson back there as a dump off/relief valve for Watson in the final few drives Coaching staff is mercurial in how they handle Allen/play call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Everyone involved in the decision making in throwing a 50/50 deep ball to Patrick DiMarco in double coverage — Josh, Daboll, McDermott – needs to be asked some tough questions. "Why would you think that is a good idea?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Buffalo's only touchdown came on a drive where the team did everything they could to make sure Allen didn't have to throw a pass. That isn't a good sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Sometimes I wonder if Allen was the pick McDermott wanted. Easy to throw him under the bus than admit your vaunted defense blew a 16 point lead while you called a toothless second half on defense. Haven't watched the presser so I don't know exactly how he said what he said. Yeah it's interesting that he said this anyway, the drive near the end was BAD. Can't be happy with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 McD is exactly right. He wasn’t trusting the other guys. If he just dumped the ball down or threw the ball away, it would put the team in better spots. Too much hero ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: Buffalo's only touchdown came on a drive where the team did everything they could to make sure Allen didn't have to throw a pass. That isn't a good sign. Oof. Tough but fair. Oof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, DuckyBoys said: Sometimes I wonder if Allen was the pick McDermott wanted. Easy to throw him under the bus than admit your vaunted defense blew a 16 point lead while you called a toothless second half on defense. I think these coaches,in the heat of a crushing loss default to blaming the easy target, the young QB. Why would he admit his heralded defense could make the big stops at 16 to 0 late 3rd qtr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Sometimes I wonder if Allen was the pick McDermott wanted. Easy to throw him under the bus than admit your vaunted defense blew a 16 point lead while you called a toothless second half on defense. True story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Oof. Tough but fair. Oof. That's not to say Allen can't improve, but it's hard to have a consistent offense when the quarterback is still inconsistent and erratic as Josh has been this year and this game against a bad pass defense. Edited January 5, 2020 by y2zipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Shame on coach McD. Just when I was thinking he was the guy he goes and throws Allen under the bus in a game where there was more then enough blame to go around. McD should have just SHUT THE FRACK UP. What was this moron thinking!?! First, while the lateral was a bit crazy, watch the replay and had Knox stayed put and caught it it would have been a HUGE positive play. As it was that play IN NO WAY IMPACTED the outcome of the game. If McD wants to throw folks under the bus how about: * Taking a shot at the 3 guys who could not get a block on #41 in OT on Allen's QB sweep. And unlike the lateral that screw-up cost us the game. If they get a block on #41 Allen runs for10 - 20 yards and we're on the doorstep of winning this game. * Or McD could have commented on a defense that played great for a half and half of a quarter then crapped the bed when it counted. They gave up 75 & 80 yard TD drives in the last 16 minutes of the game. Had the D stopped just one of the 2 point conversions that last Bill's FG would have been the winning FG. * Or how about McD wait to watch the film and let us know what he thinks about leaving JJ Watt unblocked or single blocked for the 4th quarter and in OT? I'm deeply disappointed that McD made these comments. This can really mess up a kids head. They are not only unfair but the game film will show they're flat out wrong. I thought this "process" thing they brag about would result in the players & coaches circling the wagons. Instead McD is throwing Allen under the bus. Incredible. Let's not forget that McD screwed up Allen's rookie year about as badly as a coach could. Now he does this crap? This is disturbing on a number of levels and makes me doubt whether McD is the guy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: Buffalo's only touchdown came on a drive where the team did everything they could to make sure Allen didn't have to throw a pass. That isn't a good sign. I don't think that trying to ease your 2nd year QB early on, in his playoff game, on the road no less, is all that uncommon. Matter a fact it happens all the time, see Tom Brady and a million others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin doud Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 This team isn't a college football team stop running quarterback draws and try to get more playmakers next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Offensive play calling been demise all season. We find a game plan that works with reverses, options, mixed in with run/pass....and then we revert to the QB sweep or draw, and predictable Gore for 2 yds on third down (Luv you FG) , with few plays to our new RB that's been getting the job done all season. Only needed 3 pts in OT for the win. Offensive plays called in OT not well planned and not NFL caliber and certainly not NFL Champion designed. Too much talent now on Bills to experiment for another season. The experiment will benefit the team, but now time to solidify a consistent offense with a consistent game plan for winning. We have the player talent to excel. IMPO Sean and Brandon, and an awesome job by Leslie Frazier the future looks only positive. Some tweaking may be in order in the off season. As painful as todays game hit me, I maintain so many happy memories...fruit belt parking at rock pile, Cookie, Darryl, Paul McGuire, Rich Stadium and the electric company, Reggie, then Joe, Jim, Doug, Bruce, Darryl, Steve, Thurman, Andre, and so many others. Heads high Bills Mafia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: Just like they dont mention Watson threw a ball directly to Neal who dropped it at their own like 30 yard line, possibly a pick-6 pretty much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2zipper Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I don't think that trying to ease your 2nd year QB early on, in his playoff game, on the road no less, is all that uncommon. Matter a fact it happens all the time, see Tom Brady and a million others. I don't disagree, but at some point Allen has to drop back and win and today he couldn't. McDermott's criticism is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Facts Go up 16-0 with 23 minutes left in the game Game stats Allen 46 passes Singletary 13 runs Just amazing. Good luck on your HC interview tomorrow, Brian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: That's not to say Allen can't improve, but it's hard to have a consistent offense when the quarterback is still inconsistent and erratic as Josh has been this year and this game against a bad pass defense. Absolutely. I'm in the same boat. Both are true: —Josh has made big strides this year and showed big improvement in a lot of areas. I think he's a Franchise QB. —He's not there yet. With more reliable receivers, I think he can have a true breakout year in 2020. He showed signs this year, and next year is when he could become Elite. That's my hope for him, and for Tremaine Edmunds. I feel the exact same about Allen and Edmunds. Both have huge obvious potential. Both have shown growth. Both have made huge plays to carry the team to a win. Both have had some horrible misses that decided losses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, y2zipper said: I don't disagree, but at some point Allen has to drop back and win and today he couldn't. McDermott's criticism is fair. Did he call out other players specifically? QB gets too much credit/blame McDermott's been around long enough. Fact is for better or worse Allen carried the team in 2019 No 1000 yard rusher no tds from the defense How does this defense not score on td in 17 games? 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Just amazing. Good luck on your HC interview tomorrow, Brian. I hope it goes real well I'm ready for a new coordinator or for McDermott to stay the hell away from the offense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: Sometimes I wonder if Allen was the pick McDermott wanted. Easy to throw him under the bus than admit your vaunted defense blew a 16 point lead while you called a toothless second half on defense. Fits the narrative that Daboll is not helping Allen often in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, y2zipper said: I don't disagree, but at some point Allen has to drop back and win and today he couldn't. McDermott's criticism is fair. It's not because of Josh, he was running for his life on a bunch of drop backs, dumb penalties & miss blocks on the o-line and dropped passes. I'm not blaming the guy who had 372 total yards out of our 425 and was the leading passer, rusher & caught the only TD we had. Nope even if I felt they way I'd know enough that Josh gave it everything he had and shut my mouth and have his back. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: It doesn't always have to be a run. Lots of opportunities for shorter passes and screens, and we just didn't take advantage. This is true, but if we're being honest, quite a bit of that falls on Allen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, y2zipper said: I don't disagree, but at some point Allen has to drop back and win and today he couldn't. McDermott's criticism is fair. I think so. Interesting that he said it. I wonder if he thinks Daboll tries to do too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Singletary was averaging over 5 yards a carry. The run game was severely hampered by the inexcusable usage of Frank Gore. A complete drive killer that has been washed up since 2014. No reason to ever dress him for a game and these guys were handing him the ball in huge spots. I have been saying it all year, Yeldon would have made us a much better offense. Singletary and Yeldon. It’s a shame it’s over now. Never know what could have been. Can't disagree on Gore/Yeldon. Gore is just a BAD RB at this point and I would have activated Yeldon and sat Gore. Poor decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, london_bills said: I think so. Interesting that he said it. I wonder if he thinks Daboll tries to do too much. Yeah dimarco running a go is just brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: This is true, but if we're being honest, quite a bit of that falls on Allen. Sometimes, but if it's an empty backfield, the screen pass option is kind of taken off the table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Frank Gore has served well as mentor for Singletary. But TJ Yeldon had some nice plays last week vs Jets, and he is a large body. Why no TJ tonight? He should have been the second option instead of Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yeah dimarco running a go is just brilliant I thought the decision to throw that was odd tbh. It wasn't a bad throw considering but earlier in the game he would of thrown a shorter route. Just seemed like he's made the decision to launch it on that, can see what mcd is saying in this context. The replay from behind showed tight coverage but Allen had thrown tight throws in the game. Edited January 5, 2020 by london_bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy said: Frank Gore has served well as mentor for Singletary. But TJ Yeldon had some nice plays last week vs Jets, and he is a large body. Why no TJ tonight? He should have been the second option instead of Gore. McD/ Daboll terrified of a fumble. That’s pretty much it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, london_bills said: I thought the decision to throw that was odd tbh. It wasn't a bad throw considering but earlier in the game he would of thrown a shorter route. Just seemed like he's made the decision to launch it on that, can see what mcd is saying in this context. The replay from behind showed tight coverage but Allen had thrown tight throws in the game. The point is- why is Dimarco running that route in the first place? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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