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1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Does anyone see what made him a pro bowl returner? I’m clearly missing something 

Probably some really well blocked returns ( one against the Bills I believe) He’s good and sure handed, but the Bills ST group is one of the worst at blocking that I’ve seen in a long time. They rarely get blocks set up for an effective return. At least they’ve stopped blocking guys in the back because they’re out of position. No block is still better than a penalty, but they’re really bad. 

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1 hour ago, WMDman said:

Technically we have had a ST TD with Hyde during the Miami game

 

What's "technically" about it?  We had one

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43 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

No kidding this is driving me nuts. He cost the Bills 5-10 yards of field position on a couple of kickoffs vs. Baltimore. 

 

I am not exactly "concerned" about the lack of ST or especially defensive touchdowns, but I do think it calls into question Roberts value to the team. He had one nice kick-off return and is clearly adept at fielding punts and picking up a few yards. So it's not like he's made egregious mistakes, but to hold down an active roster spot without contributing on offense at all, he needs to do more. 

I think the issue is that Baltimore's STs are good. It's one thing to return vs. Dallas, which has terrible STs, and another to try your luck against an old ST coach like Harbaugh. 

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What's "technically" about it?  We had one

The funny thing is that it was a terrible idea to return it for a TD. He should have taken a knee and ended the game. The Bills D had to then go out and play something like another half-dozen plays before it ended. That's how unnecessary injuries happen. 

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They are one of eight teams that doesnt have a defensive touchdown this year.   Of those 8 teams only Green Bay and Buffalo are likely to make the playoffs.   Oddly enough they were only one of four teams that didnt have one last year.

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This is primarily a luck-based statistic, as someone already mentioned.  Given the Bills history with respect to luck, this statistic translates to "par for the course."  The Bills are long overdue for a different venue for their "golf game."

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2 hours ago, wiseman3 said:

Am I the only one concerned about this? We haven't had a pick 6, fumble recovery for TD, or any kick/punt returns for TD. Is this bad luck? Or a bigger problem? It seems like some teams (Steelers) have been huge with this and its won them some close games. It would be nice if we could get some additional scoring, especially when the offense needs a boost  

Yes we have. We have a kick return TD>

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For those plays to churn out TDs, you need a combination of a mistake from your opponent, great simultaneous play by multiple Bills, and some luck.  It's not concerning, it's just the reality of how typical these plays are in general.

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I've been looking for a big time defensive TD over the last few games, but no dice. I feel like it's gonna happen, though. Perhaps a rookie third string QB is just what they need to get a pick-six or a strip-sack-scoop-n-score...yeesh, say that five times fast. I'd been feeling like Edmunds was due to get a turnover and he got a pick Sunday... unfortunately the offense couldn't do jack with the extra possession. Hopefully it happens, players on defense have said several times this season that Frazier emphasizes taking the ball away constantly so it's not like they're not trying to get one, but tackling is priority. I just shake my head when you see a defender stand up to a ball carrier and try to strip the ball as opposed to making the tackle. Most times the defender ends up going for a ride as he's dragged across the field while the ball carrier picks up another 5-10  yards. 

 

I'mma call it. I never call anything, too afraid of the jinx but eff it, here goes: Edmunds with the pick-six midway through the 3rd this Sunday night.

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4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I’d rather by 9-4 than 10-3 and have to beat teams with unsustainable plays like punt blocks. 😊

I’ve never seen a team that good at blocking punts and getting close to. It’s insane 

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5 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:


yes my Concern-o-Meter is reading off the charts on this completely arbitrary and luck-based statistic.

Weird! My sarcasometer didi the same when you wrote this.😁

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3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Probably some really well blocked returns ( one against the Bills I believe) He’s good and sure handed, but the Bills ST group is one of the worst at blocking that I’ve seen in a long time. They rarely get blocks set up for an effective return. At least they’ve stopped blocking guys in the back because they’re out of position. No block is still better than a penalty, but they’re really bad. 

 

This is true, I wonder if they're being coached to just run interference & don't risk a border line penalty.

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2 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Weird! My sarcasometer didi the same when you wrote this.😁

Can’t take credit. I believe @Joe in Winslow created the concern-o-meter. 👍

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5 hours ago, theAteam said:

Jerry had that scoop and score but was brought back because apparently if the QB drops the ball straight down it's a forward pass.

I ask Sal about this and he responded with what are you talking about its a forward pass.....i dont get it either

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6 hours ago, wiseman3 said:

Am I the only one concerned about this? We haven't had a pick 6, fumble recovery for TD, or any kick/punt returns for TD. Is this bad luck? Or a bigger problem? It seems like some teams (Steelers) have been huge with this and its won them some close games. It would be nice if we could get some additional scoring, especially when the offense needs a boost  

No, the defense is the last thing you should worry about.  Be very worried about a QB with 59% completion % that can't hit anything over 20 yards in the air consistently

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We need to be up by 8+ more often so teams feel compelled to throw more first. Hard to get all these pick-6s when teams ground and point us and are throwing all-intermediate passes.

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20 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

Baltimore didn't have a defensive or Special Teams TD against us. Neither did the Eagles or Browns.  Only the Patriots had the blocked punt TD against us in a loss.

 

Uh... ok? Where did I say they did?

 

Killed us, as in could've been the difference in the game, as in we win instead of lose.

 

But hey, thanks for your insight.

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7 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

Uh... ok? Where did I say they did?

 

Killed us, as in could've been the difference in the game, as in we win instead of lose.

 

But hey, thanks for your insight.

 

I don't remember it killing us in any of the games other than the Patriots.  Keep changing the narrative tho, maybe you meant something else again?

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We are definitely due to make a few big plays on special teams -- the Steelers Defense is tough - our defense is tough. This is the week to have our special teams make the play that is key to a winning a low scoring defensive battle and clinching our playoff spot. Come on Andre Roberts - take one to the house Sunday night & be the difference maker in this game!

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