wiseman3 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 I totally get that its mostly luck and we shouldn't be too concerned with it. But to not have any? (Minus the hyde return, im not counting that lol). I couldn't find stats on it, but we've gotta be bottom of the league in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Well it's not from lack of trying on the KO return. Roberts has the green light whenever he's "feeling it" No kidding this is driving me nuts. He cost the Bills 5-10 yards of field position on a couple of kickoffs vs. Baltimore. I am not exactly "concerned" about the lack of ST or especially defensive touchdowns, but I do think it calls into question Roberts value to the team. He had one nice kick-off return and is clearly adept at fielding punts and picking up a few yards. So it's not like he's made egregious mistakes, but to hold down an active roster spot without contributing on offense at all, he needs to do more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Just keep getting turnovers and they'll come! Hopefully this D can heat up with the turnovers heading into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Well it's not from lack of trying on the KO return. Roberts has the green light whenever he's "feeling it" Does anyone see what made him a pro bowl returner? I’m clearly missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I expected more form the ST unit with Roberts, but he is leading the league in avg KO return yardage I believe. On defense in 2017 we had 3 TD's, two off of fumble recoveries and the other an INT return. That year everything seemed to bounce our way. This year we haven't gotten those breaks, but are still 9-4 only needing one more victory in the last 3 games to get into the playoffs. It would be nice to get a fortunate TD here or there on defense and have a kick/punt returned for a TD, but such is life. Hopefully Lady Luck rolls with us once we get into January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Does anyone see what made him a pro bowl returner? I’m clearly missing something Probably some really well blocked returns ( one against the Bills I believe) He’s good and sure handed, but the Bills ST group is one of the worst at blocking that I’ve seen in a long time. They rarely get blocks set up for an effective return. At least they’ve stopped blocking guys in the back because they’re out of position. No block is still better than a penalty, but they’re really bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 It's mostly luck. It's a good sign that we've done as well as we have without many of these bounces going our way...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, WMDman said: Technically we have had a ST TD with Hyde during the Miami game What's "technically" about it? We had one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: No kidding this is driving me nuts. He cost the Bills 5-10 yards of field position on a couple of kickoffs vs. Baltimore. I am not exactly "concerned" about the lack of ST or especially defensive touchdowns, but I do think it calls into question Roberts value to the team. He had one nice kick-off return and is clearly adept at fielding punts and picking up a few yards. So it's not like he's made egregious mistakes, but to hold down an active roster spot without contributing on offense at all, he needs to do more. I think the issue is that Baltimore's STs are good. It's one thing to return vs. Dallas, which has terrible STs, and another to try your luck against an old ST coach like Harbaugh. 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What's "technically" about it? We had one The funny thing is that it was a terrible idea to return it for a TD. He should have taken a knee and ended the game. The Bills D had to then go out and play something like another half-dozen plays before it ended. That's how unnecessary injuries happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 They are one of eight teams that doesnt have a defensive touchdown this year. Of those 8 teams only Green Bay and Buffalo are likely to make the playoffs. Oddly enough they were only one of four teams that didnt have one last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 This is primarily a luck-based statistic, as someone already mentioned. Given the Bills history with respect to luck, this statistic translates to "par for the course." The Bills are long overdue for a different venue for their "golf game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, wiseman3 said: Am I the only one concerned about this? We haven't had a pick 6, fumble recovery for TD, or any kick/punt returns for TD. Is this bad luck? Or a bigger problem? It seems like some teams (Steelers) have been huge with this and its won them some close games. It would be nice if we could get some additional scoring, especially when the offense needs a boost Yes we have. We have a kick return TD> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 For those plays to churn out TDs, you need a combination of a mistake from your opponent, great simultaneous play by multiple Bills, and some luck. It's not concerning, it's just the reality of how typical these plays are in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 ST’s is so bad- there is nothing “special” ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I've been looking for a big time defensive TD over the last few games, but no dice. I feel like it's gonna happen, though. Perhaps a rookie third string QB is just what they need to get a pick-six or a strip-sack-scoop-n-score...yeesh, say that five times fast. I'd been feeling like Edmunds was due to get a turnover and he got a pick Sunday... unfortunately the offense couldn't do jack with the extra possession. Hopefully it happens, players on defense have said several times this season that Frazier emphasizes taking the ball away constantly so it's not like they're not trying to get one, but tackling is priority. I just shake my head when you see a defender stand up to a ball carrier and try to strip the ball as opposed to making the tackle. Most times the defender ends up going for a ride as he's dragged across the field while the ball carrier picks up another 5-10 yards. I'mma call it. I never call anything, too afraid of the jinx but eff it, here goes: Edmunds with the pick-six midway through the 3rd this Sunday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I’d rather by 9-4 than 10-3 and have to beat teams with unsustainable plays like punt blocks. ? I’ve never seen a team that good at blocking punts and getting close to. It’s insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 So you're saying we're due...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: yes my Concern-o-Meter is reading off the charts on this completely arbitrary and luck-based statistic. Weird! My sarcasometer didi the same when you wrote this.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 We’re due...time for Roberts to finally break one and/or for our back seven to bait Hodges into throwing a DUCK that we take back the other way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Probably some really well blocked returns ( one against the Bills I believe) He’s good and sure handed, but the Bills ST group is one of the worst at blocking that I’ve seen in a long time. They rarely get blocks set up for an effective return. At least they’ve stopped blocking guys in the back because they’re out of position. No block is still better than a penalty, but they’re really bad. This is true, I wonder if they're being coached to just run interference & don't risk a border line penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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