dave mcbride Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) And I say that as someone who loves Frank. The Bills certainly could have afforded McCoy. He’s just a lot more versatile than Frank at this point. When Gore is in there, his role is insanely predictable, which makes the offense more predictable. McCoy is having a sneaky good season. He is averaging 4.9 ypc and has 27 receptions on 31 targets. Edited December 8, 2019 by dave mcbride 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Fran Grescher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 McCoy looks like crap today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Best Player Available said: McCoy looks like crap today. There have been 12 other games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I would be just as fine with Yeldon as McCoy. Need that third guy rotating in to help I think. I don’t have an issue with gore getting some touches, but they always seem to be at big moments or when we really need a play. Gore is good for his 3-5 yard pound occasionally and singletary has been a life saver but I think they’re missing that third guy to rotate in and help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, jimmy10 said: Fran Grescher? I fixed it! Sorry - doing this from my phone ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: There have been 12 other games. Don't see it. they are both old and done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We need another young north-south back to compliment Singletary. Shady and Gore aren't what they used to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 next year they get a better compliment to Singeltary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: Don't see it. they are both old and done. 4.9 ypc and an 88 percent catch rate suggest otherwise. Last year, shady’s season was a mirage - kinda like Sony Michel’s this year and Marshawn Lynch’s final dozen or so games as a Bill. Teams key on them because they don’t respect the passing game, and they get hit in the backfield on no-chance plays at an inordinate rate. Edited December 8, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Even if that’s true, there’s no doubt that salary came into play. So I understand the move to release Shady completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Shady right now is better than Gore it isn’t even close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: 4.9 ypc and an 88 percent catch rate suggest otherwise. Last year, shady’s season was a mirage - kinda like Sony Michel’s this year and Marshawn Lynch’s final dozen or so games as a Bill. Teams key on them because they don’t respect the passing game, and they get hit in the backfield on no-chance plays at an inordinate rate. How many minutes is shady playing per game? wasn't he a healthy scratch for a game? i just don't think he is a big difference maker anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: And I say that as someone who loves Frank. The Bills certainly could have afforded McCoy. He’s just a lot more versatile than Frank at this point. When Gore is in there, his role is insanely predictable, which makes the offense more predictable. McCoy is having a sneaky good season. He is averaging 4.9 ypc and has 27 receptions on 31 targets. I don’t think Singeltary Progresses like he has with McCoy playing “mentor” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I'd disagree. Gore would look pretty good in that KC offense. I don't think Shady could do that anymore for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Best Player Available said: How many minutes is shady playing per game? wasn't he a healthy scratch for a game? i just don't think he is a big difference maker anymore. You think Gore is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 32ABBA said: You think Gore is? hardly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Anyone know if Perry is doing good on special teams? He looked very slow on that kick return and offers little as a RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 He's not worth that much as a backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: hardly..... McCoy is a bigger difference maker than Gore, and that's the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 32ABBA said: McCoy is a bigger difference maker than Gore, and that's the discussion. Miya not when you add into what Gore has Done for Singeltary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Miya not when you add into what Gore has Done for Singeltary Yawn...that kind of "great off field mentor" stuff is standard coach speak. I doubt Singletary would be playing any worse with a different vet providing mentoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, 32ABBA said: McCoy is a bigger difference maker than Gore, and that's the discussion. disagree. It is debatable McCoy is done too. Both are out of gas. What difference did either of them do today? Or last week? Or the week before? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Some people have mentioned Derrick Henry, and I would't be that upset if we overpaid to get him. Hell it helps us and hurts the Titans. Still curious to see what Christian Wade brings to the table next season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Best Player Available said: disagree. It is debatable McCoy is done too. Both are out of gas. What difference did either of them do today? Or last week? Or the week before? Nothing. It's okay that you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I didn't like mccoy and was glad they got rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Yawn...that kind of "great off field mentor" stuff is standard coach speak. I doubt Singletary would be playing any worse with a different vet providing mentoring. really so you think McCoy is a better Mentor than Gore. Ha ha ha ha then why has Singeltary been attached to Gore’s hip since he has been in Buffalo? Edited December 9, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 The earlier in the year Frank Gore? Or the playing right now Frank Gore? The playing right now Frank G. looks done....literally petrified of having to go into a game right now with him as the primary back. He looks slow.....he isnt breaking tackles...he doesnt have that little change of direction (very subtile....nothing like Shady or Singletary of course) thats gone.....if he goes lateral to the LOS he is going to get tackled...he probably isnt going to have a lot of negative plays but his plays are for like a YARD. Singletary however.....looks like a BETTER version of Shady McCoy. The only problem is Deven cant play the whole game. What I wouldnt give right now to have that Rugby kid on the roster in relief of Devin when he takes a breather...give me a fast big brusing north south back that doesnt have a million miles on his behind Devin next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I think it's safe to say Gore is the worst RB in the NFL at this stage in his career. How he is getting critical carries in big games just continues to blow my mind. It's tolbert, Shaud Williams all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: really so you think McCoy is a better Mentor than Gore. Ha ha ha ha NO, I think the whole "mentoring" is often blown out of proportion, and that You and any of us here on the board don't actually know a thing about Gore and Singletary's relationship, other that the cliche stories we see reported. I believe they get along well, but what is Singletary going to say "I hate Frank gore, he never helps me!" Edited December 9, 2019 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: And I say that as someone who loves Frank. The Bills certainly could have afforded McCoy. He’s just a lot more versatile than Frank at this point. When Gore is in there, his role is insanely predictable, which makes the offense more predictable. McCoy is having a sneaky good season. He is averaging 4.9 ypc and has 27 receptions on 31 targets. Yeah, ignoring salary, leadership, work ethic, mentoring a young rb...and so on. Agree McCoy is still more talented at this point of his career, but clearly the team thought Singletary would be taking control and didn't want to keep mccoy around for everything listed above, or other reasons not made public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Yawn...that kind of "great off field mentor" stuff is standard coach speak. I doubt Singletary would be playing any worse with a different vet providing mentoring. Alot of people think Allen has developed. Singletary had been consistently good. Both players have had the mentors and so it can't have hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 32ABBA said: NO, I think the whole "mentoring" is often blown out of proportion, and that You and any of us here on the board don't actually know a thing about Gore and Singletary's relationship, other that the cliche stories we see reported. yet Singletary has been attached to Gores hip since he arrived in Buffalo. yet Singletary Mimics Gores pregame routine to a T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Marcus Murphy would have been better ten Gore. The guy has been done for 5 years. Not only is it crazy that he made a roster but he actually gets important touches for us. I get he’s been a great compiler that will make the hall of fame and I’m glad he can help Singletary off the field. But the guy is done. This is a team with big time aspirations in a league where “next year” is never guaranteed. You got to stop wasting touches on this guy. He’s to slow to be in the league. He’s turning 20 yard runs into 6 yards. And 6 yard runs into losses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, london_bills said: Alot of people think Allen has developed. Singletary had been consistently good. Both players have had the mentors and so it can't have hurt. I didn't say it hurt. I said I think it is a cliche that is often overblown. He's a running back, not a QB 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: yet Singletary has been attached to Gores hip since he arrived in Buffalo. yet Singletary Mimics Gores pregame routine to a T. Yawn. Yeah, they like to hang out, how much that effects Singletary's performance we don't actually know, now do we? Gore is terrible on the field. If they want to have him as a RB coach, that would be great. Just keep him off the field. Edited December 9, 2019 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 32ABBA said: I don't say it hurt. I said I think it is a cliche that is often overblown. He's a running back, not a QB Yawn. Yeah, they like to hang out, how much that effects Singletary's performance we don't actually know, now do we? ahhh so you can’t say it doesn’t either. So what is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: ahhh so you can’t say it doesn’t either. So what is the point? The point is GORE SUCKS AND HE'S ***** UP ON THE FIELD. Edited December 9, 2019 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: And I say that as someone who loves Frank. The Bills certainly could have afforded McCoy. He’s just a lot more versatile than Frank at this point. When Gore is in there, his role is insanely predictable, which makes the offense more predictable. McCoy is having a sneaky good season. He is averaging 4.9 ypc and has 27 receptions on 31 targets. I agree. Tired of old running backs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Marcus Murphy would have been better ten Gore. The guy has been done for 5 years. Not only is it crazy that he made a roster but he actually gets important touches for us. I get he’s been a great compiler that will make the hall of fame and I’m glad he can help Singletary off the field. But the guy is done. This is a team with big time aspirations in a league where “next year” is never guaranteed. You got to stop wasting touches on this guy. He’s to slow to be in the league. He’s turning 20 yard runs into 6 yards. And 6 yard runs into losses. Lately his contributions have diminished with each week. Stop putting him in goaline situations. We all know he'll be gone in 2 months. He gave us nice touches early but that is now gone. Go out and get Taylor. And I agree we should've kept Murphy. Edited December 9, 2019 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: The point is GORE SUCKS AND HE'S ***** UP ON THE FIELD. point is he is a Backup RB that rarely gets in the game. But we have seen a Rookie RB grow with him as a mentor and on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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