Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall. Or does it indicate a shift in the league? This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6). After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers. #5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising. Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division. The rest are down in da cellar. #6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo. Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting. 3 5
njbuff Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 Josh Allen MUST throw for 300 yards on a consistent basis or he sucks. ? Give me an f'n break with that crap already. 7 2 1 2
Nick the Greek Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) I feel like Breese has been airing it out and crushing it. He’d be top 10 if he was injured for so long. Edited December 1, 2019 by Nick the Greek 3
aristocrat Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 A balanced offense always is the key. Look at the lions as the example. Also, defense wins titles. 1
HOUSE Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 You are trying to pump me up for Baltimore huh? 1
LABILLBACKER Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 Yeah, this whole obsession with 300 yards is pretty silly. If Josh averaged 250 and 2 tds every week and we won I'd take that for the rest of his career. 1 1
Boca BIlls Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:43 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall. Or does it indicate a shift in the league? This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6). After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers. #5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising. Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division. The rest are down in da cellar. #6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo. Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting. Expand Passing yards over a season is usually the sign of a team that loses just FYI. So it isn't that interesting.
whatdrought Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 As important as the QB position is to success in the NFL, I think the narrative about how important QB's are to success it's still somehow overdone. 3
Warcodered Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 Is it only for passing yards? What about passing TDs? I mean you can have a bunch of passing and rushing yards but if you don't have the TDs and even FGs to go along with them it's just a bunch of empty calories. 1
billsfan_34 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:43 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall. Or does it indicate a shift in the league? This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6). After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers. #5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising. Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division. The rest are down in da cellar. #6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo. Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting. Expand The league Imo without dissecting all the stats has started to switch back to running the ball and controlling clock
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:43 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall. Or does it indicate a shift in the league? This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6). After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers. #5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising. Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division. The rest are down in da cellar. #6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo. Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting. Expand ...do you have ANY idea how badly you have devastated the "300 Yards Or A Bust" crowd?......the Peace Bridge rails are jammed..... 3
Don Otreply Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 6:02 PM, whatdrought said: As important as the QB position is to success in the NFL, I think the narrative about how important QB's are to success it's still somehow overdone. Expand I’m picking up what your putting down, Go Bills!!! On 12/1/2019 at 6:20 PM, billsfan_34 said: The league Imo without dissecting all the stats has started to switch back to running the ball and controlling clock Expand I believe you are correct, Go Bills!!! 1
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 Passing yards is often because teams are losing and defense is playing prevent. I think TT had a lot of garbage time yards
BillsShredder83 Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 I'd think in a league favoring passing alot of this has to do with garbage time and playing from behind 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 1, 2019 Author Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:46 PM, njbuff said: Josh Allen MUST throw for 300 yards on a consistent basis or he sucks. ? Give me an f'n break with that crap already. Expand Don’t fire without a clear field of view. There is nothing you wrote above that responds to anything in the OP
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 TE/INT ratio and YPA are the only metrics that matter for a QB. Comp % and QB rating will be fine if those first two metrics are ok.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 I’ve been banging this drum for years!! It doesn’t matter!! If you want to see a winning recipe for QBs look at RZ performance, TDs to turnovers and 3rd down %. Do you make more plays than mistakes? Do you execute when you are close? Are you able to keep the chains moving? 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 1, 2019 Author Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 6:21 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...do you have ANY idea how badly you have devastated the "300 Yards Or A Bust" crowd?......the Peace Bridge rails are jammed..... Expand Well I do point out that 300 yd games are not strongly correlated to winning But that really wasn’t my point with this. Normally this late in the season 3 or 4 of the top 5 passing teams would be the “close to clinched” squad, to my memory 1
BringBackOrton Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:43 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall. Or does it indicate a shift in the league? This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6). After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers. #5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising. Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division. The rest are down in da cellar. #6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo. Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting. Expand It for sure doesn’t mean anything, because # of passing attempts is strongly correlated with passing yards, and # of passing attempts is also strongly correlated with being down in games and being down in games is strongly correlated with losses. And now we no longer have the titans of the QB position that would run opposite of that trend like the primes of the Brady’s, Brees’, Manning’s, Rodgers, Rivers and Roethlisbergers. This is not new territory. # of rushing attempts has been correlated with wins for the exact same reason for 50 years.
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