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Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall.  Or does it indicate a shift in the league?

 

This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. 

Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6).  After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers.

#5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising.

 

Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division.  The rest are down in da cellar.

 

#6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo.

 

Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting.

 

 

 

 

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Josh Allen MUST throw for 300 yards on a consistent basis or he sucks.

 

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Give me an f'n break with that crap already.

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I feel like Breese has been airing it out and crushing it. He’d be top 10 if he was injured for so long. 

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A balanced offense always is the key. Look at the lions as the example. Also, defense wins titles. 

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You are trying to pump me up for Baltimore huh?

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Yeah, this whole obsession with 300 yards is pretty silly. If Josh averaged 250 and 2 tds every week and we won I'd take that for the rest of his career.

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8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall.  Or does it indicate a shift in the league?

 

This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. 

Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6).  After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers.

#5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising.

 

Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division.  The rest are down in da cellar.

 

#6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo.

 

Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting.

 

 

 

 

Passing yards over a season is usually the sign of a team that loses just FYI. So it isn't that interesting.

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As important as the QB position is to success in the NFL, I think the narrative about how important QB's are to success it's still somehow overdone.

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Is it only for passing yards? What about passing TDs? I mean you can have a bunch of passing and rushing yards but if you don't have the TDs and even FGs to go along with them it's just a bunch of empty calories.

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35 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall.  Or does it indicate a shift in the league?

 

This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. 

Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6).  After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers.

#5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising.

 

Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division.  The rest are down in da cellar.

 

#6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo.

 

Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting.

 

 

 

 

The league Imo without dissecting all the stats has started to switch back to running the ball and controlling clock 

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36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall.  Or does it indicate a shift in the league?

 

This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. 

Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6).  After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers.

#5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising.

 

Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division.  The rest are down in da cellar.

 

#6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo.

 

Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting.

 

 

 

 

 

...do you have ANY idea how badly you have devastated the "300 Yards Or A Bust" crowd?......the Peace Bridge rails are jammed.....

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21 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

As important as the QB position is to success in the NFL, I think the narrative about how important QB's are to success it's still somehow overdone.

I’m picking up what your putting down,

 

Go Bills!!!

6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

The league Imo without dissecting all the stats has started to switch back to running the ball and controlling clock 

I believe you are correct,

 

Go Bills!!!

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Passing yards is often because teams are losing and defense is playing prevent. I think TT had a lot of garbage time yards

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1 hour ago, njbuff said:

Josh Allen MUST throw for 300 yards on a consistent basis or he sucks.

 

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Give me an f'n break with that crap already.

 

Don’t fire without a clear field of view.

 

There is nothing you wrote above that responds to anything in the OP

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I’ve been banging this drum for years!! It doesn’t matter!! If you want to see a winning recipe for QBs look at RZ performance, TDs to turnovers and 3rd down %. Do you make more plays than mistakes? Do you execute when you are close? Are you able to keep the chains moving? 

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35 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...do you have ANY idea how badly you have devastated the "300 Yards Or A Bust" crowd?......the Peace Bridge rails are jammed.....

 

Well I do point out that 300 yd games are not strongly correlated to winning

 

But that really wasn’t my point with this.  Normally this late in the season 3 or 4 of the top 5 passing teams would be the “close to clinched” squad, to my memory

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Just noticed this, an anomaly as far as I can recall.  Or does it indicate a shift in the league?

 

This year, none of the league's top-4 QB for passing yards are playing for teams with winning records. 

Prior to Thurs, Dak/Dallas was the only one (6-5, now 6-6).  After Dak, it's Winston, Ryan and Rivers.

#5 is Goff, with the Rams still 6-5 but overall not looking too promising.

 

Dallas is the only one of those teams leading the division.  The rest are down in da cellar.

 

#6-#12 is "money" territory for teams either in the playoffs, or strong contenders with Brady, Wilson, Watson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Cousins, and Garappolo.

 

Not sure it means anything, just saw it as interesting.

 

 

 

 

It for sure doesn’t mean anything, because # of passing attempts is strongly correlated with passing yards, and # of passing attempts is also strongly correlated with being down in games and being down in games is strongly correlated with losses. And now we no longer have the titans of the QB position that would run opposite of that trend like the primes of the Brady’s, Brees’, Manning’s, Rodgers, Rivers and Roethlisbergers.

 

This is not new territory.  # of rushing attempts has been correlated with wins for the exact same reason for 50 years.

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Here we go the anti-300 yards stupidity again.....

 

2018 Passing Leaders by yards.....  Yep all suck & terrble records too....  See Brees too is missing, another garbage QB....

 

1. Ben Roethlisberger  PIT 5129
2. Patrick Mahomes  KAN 5097
3. Matt Ryan  ATL 4924
4. Jared Goff  LAR 4688
5. Andrew Luck  IND 4593
6. Aaron Rodgers  GNB 4442
7. Tom Brady  NWE 4355
8. Philip Rivers  LAC 4308
9. Eli Manning  NYG 4299
10. Kirk Cousins  MIN

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15 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Here we go the anti-300 yards stupidity again.....

 

2018 Passing Leaders by yards.....  Yep all suck & terrble records too....  See Brees troo is missing, another garbage QB....

 

1. Ben Roethlisberger  PIT 5129
2. Patrick Mahomes  KAN 5097
3. Matt Ryan  ATL 4924
4. Jared Goff  LAR 4688
5. Andrew Luck  IND 4593
6. Aaron Rodgers  GNB 4442
7. Tom Brady  NWE 4355
8. Philip Rivers  LAC 4308
9. Eli Manning  NYG 4299
10. Kirk Cousins  MIN

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Don’t think it’s anti-300 yards in and of itself. It’s those who think 300 yards in and of itself means something, it doesn’t. It’s a meaningless figure. Need to look ay many factors, RZ effectiveness, third down  completions that lead to first downs etc...

the point being made is that many of those QBs throwing for 300 yards are losing games.

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34 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Here we go the anti-300 yards stupidity again.....

 

2018 Passing Leaders by yards.....  Yep all suck & terrble records too....  See Brees troo is missing, another garbage QB....

 

1. Ben Roethlisberger  PIT 5129
2. Patrick Mahomes  KAN 5097
3. Matt Ryan  ATL 4924
4. Jared Goff  LAR 4688
5. Andrew Luck  IND 4593
6. Aaron Rodgers  GNB 4442
7. Tom Brady  NWE 4355
8. Philip Rivers  LAC 4308
9. Eli Manning  NYG 4299
10. Kirk Cousins  MIN

4298

#1,3,6, 9,and 10 did not make playoffs. Perhaps us anti-300 yarders aren't so stupid.

 

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16 minutes ago, Ta111 said:

Don’t think it’s anti-300 yards in and of itself. It’s those who think 300 yards in and of itself means something, it doesn’t. It’s a meaningless figure. Need to look ay many factors, RZ effectiveness, third down  completions that lead to first downs etc...

the point being made is that many of those QBs throwing for 300 yards are losing games.

No the point is the Bills have gone 45 games without one that to mean seems almost impossible to do, unless your coaching philosophy is so out of date......

 

BTW for those who haven't looked, the Bills are not 45-0 over those 45 games, which seems to be the argument that you don't need to throw for 300 by some posters here..... 

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