wvbillsfan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Third and a yard or less should be an automatic qb sneak. Allen is automatic on QB sneaks. Shoot he picked up one that was almost a full two yards. Wouldn’t recommend that often from that far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Gore looked old today ds looked great Did he look old or was the line to blame? Seems like the latter to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, TroutDog said: Did he look old or was the line to blame? Seems like the latter to me. I think it was a combo of both.....but he simply looked to have no burst to the line and he stumbled on at least 2 of those runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I think it was a combo of both.....but he simply looked to have no burst to the line and he stumbled on at least 2 of those runs OK, agree to disagree. Gore is not one known for his ‘burst’, but for tough running. If there’s no daylight, there’s no daylight. He hit the whole like he always does from what I saw...there just wasn’t a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I’m worried that we are wasting plays with Gore. Everybody knows what play we are running whenever he steps on the field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, MDH said: I said it after the 3 stops at the goal line. Why don’t they spread the field and give it to Singletary on short yardage. Thankfully Daboll was listening. ? Except it too another stop on 4th and 1 before he learned his lesson. 48 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Third and a yard or less should be an automatic qb sneak. Allen is automatic on QB sneaks. Shoot he picked up one that was almost a full two yards. Wouldn’t recommend that often from that far out. Belicheater calls the sneak every stinking time it seems. And it works every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, MDH said: I said it after the 3 stops at the goal line. Why don’t they spread the field and give it to Singletary on short yardage. Thankfully Daboll was listening. ? I can’t believe it took him until 4th down to figure out that the best bet is to let Allen pick up the three inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Is yeldon hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, peterpan said: Except it too another stop on 4th and 1 before he learned his lesson. That nonsense was maddening. They ran the play even though a timeout was called.... and then came out and ran the same damn play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 crazy, we gave singletary a few carries and stuck to the ground game and won. Its amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, bills6969 said: Not as much as I am concerned about our Run D. 93 yards came in the 2nd quarter on sbout 6 rushes . 15 the rest of the game. i don’t know what defense and personnel they had in in these plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Azucho98 said: Doughball just doesn't have it - he's a bad coordinator. You offer very little in the way of examples and insight as to why he’s so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsker4life Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I like our run game a lot better out of the shotgun right now, where Allen is probably more of a threat running it. Not that I necessarily want JA running more, but having the D more concerned about him is beneficial. Short yardage was terrible today. Some of that was on the OL, but Gore had a terrible day and missed some lanes. Daboll going to him over and over again made no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 DS had 140 yards from what I heard, and a TD, so no, not concerned. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Funny, I thought it was all Shady's fault the run game was sputtering? Morse is so overrated. He is a capable center but not even close to top 10 right now. He might not even be in the top 15. Nsekhe is worse than Mills. Mills was adequate in run blocking and piss poor in pass blocking. Nsekhe sucks at both. Spain has been regressing since week three. I wonder if the will give Ford or Long a few snaps at LG over the next few weeks. When healthy, Ford should get the majority of RT snaps. They have to know by season's end if he is the answer at RT. Many on here already think he is a Guard only but we really don't know just yet. If not they will need to sign or draft another OT. Dawkins is barely above average LT and they will have a very hard time signing him to a long term deal. Someone will pay him top 5 money. I would franchise him for a year in 2021 and then let him walk. That way they are not making any long term commitment. He will almost certainly hold out next year for a new contract. Bills should hold firm and make him play out his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Whats to worry about? Dayboll and the Bills offence is 6-2 right now, they won, thats all that matters If you believe otherwise your not a Fan and should go cheer for the Pats.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I'm much more worried about pinning the hopes of this franchise on Allen's passing arm than I am Singletary or Gore. That said, the right side of our OL is a serious liability despite all the FA signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Nick the Greek said: You offer very little in the way of examples and insight as to why he’s so bad. Look at the career rankings of offenses coached by guru Doughball and you will see. Always in the bottom third. He's a lousy coordinator period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Azucho98 said: How many times was Gore stuffed in short yardage situations and Doughball kept calling it.... To my count, 5 It was embarrassing and potentially costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Please take the time to read the following There is no QUIT in this TEAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 15 hours ago, matter2003 said: No...they are not good on power runs...haven't been all year...they are near the bottom of the league at them...why they keep insisting on running them i don't know....go spread and run out of it if they have to... They run the ball pretty effectively otherwise, just not when they go jumbo or tank and decide to bring everyone near the LOS They insist because Daboll is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 So you wait until the week we see This to post that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So you wait until the week we see This to post that? save em the extra click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: save em the extra click Dude. Yours takes them to a "not available" , click here to watch in youtube. Cool front, but extra clicks involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Ha I agree. But the "run it more" people are just wrong. We did not lose last week because we passed too much. That was an idiotic argument. We lost last week because we couldn't stop the run. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/11/03/buffalo-bills-beat-redskins-sean-mcdermott-says-team-work-in-progress-devin-singletary-josh-allen/4125094002/ How hard is it to gain one yard? Really hard if you’re the Bills. They have been confronted with a third-and-1 situation 12 times this season and have made the first down just five times, gaining only three yards net. Add in fourth-and-1 and they’ve had that situation four times and made the first down twice, gaining just two yards. Not good. As McDermott said, “and ones” were a problem in this game, specifically. It was most glaring in the second quarter when the Bills failed to gain an inch on first-, second-, and third-and-goal at the 1 — all Frank Gore runs — before Allen finally punched it across. Later, they failed on a fourth-and-1 attempt by Gore at the Redskins' 24. Allen made a third-and-1 with a sneak in the first quarter, and he was stopped in the same situation on a sneak in the third on the play before Gore was stuffed on fourth down. And then in the fourth, on third-and-1, Gore lost three yards. In every case, the Bills were bunched together at the line with multiple tight ends and could not win, rather than spread out the formation and attack into wider spaces. “At the end of the day, it’s your job to drive the guy off the ball, right?” McDermott said. “So we’ve got to look at that.” What McDermott and offensive coordinator Brian Daboll really need to be looking at is changing their approach and using more spread formations on short yardage plays. Just ask their own defensive players, which I did. When safety Jordan Poyer sees the “big people” come on the field on third-and-short, he loves it. “Of course you do because you can kind of narrow down the types of plays they’re going to run,” he said. “Especially if they’ve been running them all game and they’ve been successful. To me it’s always easier to play third-and-1 when they bring bigger guys on the field than it is to play when they spread you out and force you to probably play man.” Linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said, “It can be (tougher against spread out formations), depending on who the quarterback is and what type of weapons they have on the outside. I think at the end of the day, the core of it is, (the offense) saying, ‘We’re tougher than you and we’re going to knock you off the ball and get this first down.’ It’s mindset football, it’s an old-school way of thinking.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 All of those short yardage runs were bad playcalling. After getting stuffed on short yardage about 3 times....you probably might want to throw in a playaction or just pass the ball....but to see another 6 or 7 of those after.... I wanted to pull my hair out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/11/03/buffalo-bills-beat-redskins-sean-mcdermott-says-team-work-in-progress-devin-singletary-josh-allen/4125094002/ How hard is it to gain one yard? Really hard if you’re the Bills. They have been confronted with a third-and-1 situation 12 times this season and have made the first down just five times, gaining only three yards net. Add in fourth-and-1 and they’ve had that situation four times and made the first down twice, gaining just two yards. Not good. As McDermott said, “and ones” were a problem in this game, specifically. It was most glaring in the second quarter when the Bills failed to gain an inch on first-, second-, and third-and-goal at the 1 — all Frank Gore runs — before Allen finally punched it across. Later, they failed on a fourth-and-1 attempt by Gore at the Redskins' 24. Allen made a third-and-1 with a sneak in the first quarter, and he was stopped in the same situation on a sneak in the third on the play before Gore was stuffed on fourth down. And then in the fourth, on third-and-1, Gore lost three yards. In every case, the Bills were bunched together at the line with multiple tight ends and could not win, rather than spread out the formation and attack into wider spaces. “At the end of the day, it’s your job to drive the guy off the ball, right?” McDermott said. “So we’ve got to look at that.” What McDermott and offensive coordinator Brian Daboll really need to be looking at is changing their approach and using more spread formations on short yardage plays. Just ask their own defensive players, which I did. When safety Jordan Poyer sees the “big people” come on the field on third-and-short, he loves it. “Of course you do because you can kind of narrow down the types of plays they’re going to run,” he said. “Especially if they’ve been running them all game and they’ve been successful. To me it’s always easier to play third-and-1 when they bring bigger guys on the field than it is to play when they spread you out and force you to probably play man.” Linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said, “It can be (tougher against spread out formations), depending on who the quarterback is and what type of weapons they have on the outside. I think at the end of the day, the core of it is, (the offense) saying, ‘We’re tougher than you and we’re going to knock you off the ball and get this first down.’ It’s mindset football, it’s an old-school way of thinking.” I don't have the numbers right in front of me but I am certain I have read somewhere that league wide the past 5 years teams facing 3rd or 4th and 3 yards or fewer convert a higher percentage passing than they do running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: I don't have the numbers right in front of me but I am certain I have read somewhere that league wide the past 5 years teams facing 3rd or 4th and 3 yards or fewer convert a higher percentage passing than they do running. McDermott’s quote is alarming in its stone-agedness and makes me think he’s possibly forcing Daboll into this sort of playcalling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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