Jerry Jabber Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) In back to back weeks, the Bills have given up long kick/punt returns. Luckily, a holding penalty against the Bengals negated a return for a TD. For punt returns, should Bojorquez start aiming the football out of bounds or near the sidelines? I hope Heath Farwell makes some adjustments quickly. Edited September 24, 2019 by Jerry Jabber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: In back to back weeks, the Bills have given up long punt returns. Luckily, a holding penalty against the Bengals negated a return for a TD. Should Bojorquez start aiming the football out of bounds or near the sidelines given the two long returns? I hope Heath Farwell makes some adjustments quickly. The holding penalty that negated the Bengals TD was on a kickoff. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 He out kicked the coverage team against the giants and this week that was a kickoff return. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said: The holding penalty that negated the Bengals TD was on a kickoff. Thanks! Fixed the subject line. 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He out kicked the coverage team against the giants and this week that was a kickoff return. Thanks! Fixed the subject line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Another concern is our own punt returning. You could see Andre Roberts visibly upset at a blocker on a punt return that looked to have a ton of room if not for our guy completely whiffing on his block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Consistency with Bojorquez has been the biggest issue. When he gets off a good one he can kick it out of the stadium, other times he kind of just doesn't get a good leg into it and it goes no where. Nothing terrible that I can remember, hes just been average. Maybe he will get into it here soon and gain a bit more confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Another concern is our own punt returning. You could see Andre Roberts visibly upset at a blocker on a punt return that looked to have a ton of room if not for our guy completely whiffing on his block. Yeah, they might need some magic from him this week. Get yo ***** together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Going to take a wait and see on Special Teams. New coach, new players. May take a few weeks for it all to gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/forum/1-the-stadium-wall/ Could have discussed this here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, fansince88 said: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/forum/1-the-stadium-wall/ Could have discussed this here. come on man.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just now, Phil The Thrill said: come on man.... Well......is this not a special team conversation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: In back to back weeks, the Bills have given up long kick/punt returns. Luckily, a holding penalty against the Bengals negated a return for a TD. For punt returns, should Bojorquez start aiming the football out of bounds or near the sidelines? I hope Heath Farwell makes some adjustments quickly. Bojorquez has not really been good. Whenever he tries punting they ball with hang time it lands short and he almost never is ever able to pin a team inside the 10. Watch the difference between him and the punters for Cincinnati and NYG. Just now, fansince88 said: Well......is this not a special team conversation? why don’t we just have 1 global thread and call it “Thoughts on the Bills.” Isn’t every conversation here about the Bills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: come on man.... I think what’s missed is that the constant new threads that are already being discussed elsewhere makes some of the valuable threads harder to find, thus limiting discussion. A quick scan would have shown that Teams is already being discussed on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: Bojorquez has not really been good. Whenever he tries punting they ball with hang time it lands short and he almost never is ever able to pin a team inside the 10. Watch the difference between him and the punters for Cincinnati and NYG. why don’t we just have 1 global thread and call it “Thoughts on the Bills.” Isn’t every conversation here about the Bills? Perhaps a mod will enlighten us on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: Perhaps a mod will enlighten us on this topic. If they see fit, then a moderator can merge the thread. I think it just gets flat out silly when regular members criticize and complain others for starting new threads. Who really cares? Let’s the mods handle it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said: If they see fit, then a moderator can merge the thread. I think it just gets flat out silly when regular members criticize and complain others for starting new threads. Who really cares? Let’s the mods handle it I agree. I was only discussing part of what goes into Special Teams, not Special Teams as a whole. If there's a post about the "Bills offense" and a poster starts a thread about Josh Allen, should people start complaining that there's already a thread discussing Josh Allen in the "Bills offense" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: why don’t we just have 1 global thread and call it “Thoughts on the Bills.” Isn’t every conversation here about the Bills? We could have a second thread called "Other teams cheer leaders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: Consistency with Bojorquez has been the biggest issue. When he gets off a good one he can kick it out of the stadium, other times he kind of just doesn't get a good leg into it and it goes no where. Nothing terrible that I can remember, hes just been average. Maybe he will get into it here soon and gain a bit more confidence. Wouldn't be surprised if during practice he's also booming them and that's why they have stuck with him longer as they know he has it in him, but on game days is inconsistent. At some point though either they will need to see improvement during games or they may look elsewhere. The other thing in his favor may be there aren't any better options, but again if keeps punting bad, the other bad options may become better ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Bojorquez isn't going anywhere as long as Hausch-money is kicking well and feels chemistry with his holder. Unlike last year you don’t mess with it unless the dude is shanking 30-yarders all over the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: I agree. I was only discussing part of what goes into Special Teams, not Special Teams as a whole. If there's a post about the "Bills offense" and a poster starts a thread about Josh Allen, should people start complaining that there's already a thread discussing Josh Allen in the "Bills offense" thread? I propose we start a new thread called Thread Etiquette where we can discuss when to and when not to start a new thread. The punt return where Roberts got nothing and was mad reminded me of a post I read when we signed him that the great return he got for the Jets had a lot to do with the blocking he got. We won't get any big returns from him until we straighten that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hauschka missed the long one but he's been mostly reliable. Borjorquez is second last in the league in punt ave and dead last in the league in net punt ave. Our punting unit sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Bojo has a real issue with hang time. It was evident last year. There has been an improvement through two weeks but this week it reared its ugly head again. He has a huge leg but no technique and too often his punts get the returner before our coverage unit has had a chance to get downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 i would much welcome the Bills to start getting concerned about any area of ST besides punting for two decades now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, zow2 said: Bojorquez isn't going anywhere as long as Hausch-money is kicking well and feels chemistry with his holder. Unlike last year you don’t mess with it unless the dude is shanking 30-yarders all over the place This is a good point. It’s seems that reliable kickers are becoming extinct in the NFL. Whereas punters are among the least important position on the field in terms of making a different between winning and losing. They probably could sign someone off the street who would punt marginally better but I doubt it would make much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Going to take a wait and see on Special Teams. New coach, new players. May take a few weeks for it all to gel. Me too. So far it's been below avg. Especially the Bengal game. We've got to block & tackle better or we're just wasting Roberts. As far as Bojo he's too inconsistent and there were better punters available that we passed on after 53 cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said: In back to back weeks, the Bills have given up long kick/punt returns. Luckily, a holding penalty against the Bengals negated a return for a TD. For punt returns, should Bojorquez start aiming the football out of bounds or near the sidelines? I hope Heath Farwell makes some adjustments quickly. It appeared (observed on the replay) that the holding penalty was the reason FOR the long kickoff return. Bojorquez did look bad in the preseason, but who cares as long as he is kicking very well in the season, which he has so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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